Psychedelic Bump XVIII

yeah i probably will bring it and see what the site is like and everything.

i'm just worried about wandering off and getting lost and confused, or not being able to find my way back to my site, not really worried about having a 'bad trip'.

 

This is not very likely.

 

I honestly wouldn't worry about that at all. I think you'll find that you have a surprising amount of control on a low dose acid trip. Wait around your area until you get a feel for the trip, and if you feel up to it, then go exploring. What are your arrangements going to be like?

 

Agreed.

 

not even sure which site i'm going with... something with some decent hiking trails hopefully, and i'll try to get as secluded of a site as possible in a campground. i'll probably bring my headphones and some music, and a bag of weed too... seems like that's all i'll need.

i'm just nervous about trying something new, hard to judge what it will be like from reading experiences/reports, but i'm probably being overly cautious. i laughed at myself for being so apprehensive before trying both mushrooms and mdma, so i guess that this will probably be similar.

 

^ You should be good on 1 hit, and that is a great setting. Though I would take extra measures to make sure you know where your camp site is at.

 

The only thing that may be similar might be the laughing at being apprehensive.
If you have experience with mushrooms and feel that you'd have a good time at that site with a moderate amount of them, then most likely you will be amazed with LSD. Expect none of the difficulties one can have with mushies.
The first time is special for alot of people, I hope it is for you as well.

 

yeah if i'm really nervous or something i'll just write the site number on my arm or something haha...

 

at first, i was gonna recommend against it. do you have a friend or someone that could come with you for that first night, and trip with you or at least hang out with you? i've taken L in the woods a few times, and it's always been awesome, but always with at least one other person tripping with me.

seems like your camp site is an actual site, not quite just the middle of the woods. there might be lights and bathrooms and stuff?
just asking, because where i've dosed in the woods, it's called backwoods camping, no sites, no nothing. and it gets REAL dark, REAL fast. so be prepared for that. i could imagine getting just a tiny bit lonely/creeped out while riding the trip out at night.

i would also recommend some type of fresh fruit. good to give your body some fuel halfway through your trip or so, and that is some TASTY fuel. plenty of water to drink too (obviously)

weed will likely amplify your trip, so just keep that in mind before you spark one up

are you gonna dose during the night or day? what time?
you'll probably be a bit tired the next day with your family, especially if you don't dose in the early afternoon.

as much of a proponent i am for LSD, i slightly disagree with this. at medium sized doses at least, L can get a little inebriating to me. nowhere near as bad as shrooms, but significant. on lower doses, or while not peaking on a higher one, i feel super connected to my surroundings. in great control of myself. but when i've taken approx. 300 ug, or another time, maybe 200-250 ug (3 hits)...both in this backwoods camping spot, i didn't want to continue walking at times. i would sit in the stream, or lay in the mud, rather than go on. it wasn't as if i COULDN'T, but it was hard, and i chose to give in. it's also been pretty hard for me to communicate with my group on the comedown (not a prob for you), or to do normal camping stuff like build a fire or make food. it was like everything i tried to do was going wrong. but not bad enough to cancel out all the good-ness

i usually aim to dose on the 2nd day of camping, so i can get a good feel for the spot on the first night. then i way more comfortable tripping on the 2nd. but it doesn't HAVE to be like that, i've done it on the 1st too.

just trying to give you all the pointers i can. i entrust you to know if it's right or not.

 

Fuckyeah, my order of 25i has finally been shipped.. Damn

 

yeah, it's not backwoods or anything. at a conservation area campground, lots of other sites around with real bathrooms available a short walk away, little store to buy ice, wood, food, etc.

i was planning on bringing some oranges, i tried one last time i was on mushrooms and it was delicious.

yeah i'm a bit hesitant about the weed, i might save it for the comedown, i'd like to get a feeling for what LSD is like without anything else at play.

i'll probably be getting there between 5-6pm, and then i'll set up camp, get a fire going, and take the hit after i'm all set up. probably won't bother with dinner, so it should only take 30 minutes to get everything unloaded. that said, i always seem to leave later than planned when going camping, but hopefully i can dose by 7pm. family probably won't come until around 11am or noon the next day, so i'll have some time for a morning nap if everything works out as planned.

 

yeah, i always take forever to get going too.

take flashlights, and lots of sources of fire.

sounds good to wait on the weed, and get the unadulterated LSD experience.

and props on the oranges

i just bought this (from amazon) for my next camping trip:
http://www.gerbergear.com/Outdoor/Gear/Gator-Combo-Axe-_31-001054

 

my friend's parents own a flashlight/battery company so i will have more light than i know what to do with.

ps. that axe is badass

edit: would you guys say that this graph is fairly accurate?

 

My friend and I went to a big psychedelic party Saturday night. We hadn’t planned on going because the tickets were expensive and it was inside the city limits of a very conservative place, but someone asked us to take care of an information and vending table and gave us complimentary tix, so there we were. I’d had a cold and sore throat for several days and had slept poorly the night before, and felt just okay.

We worked the table from 6 until ~8:30, then each dosed 150mg 6-APB. Alerts in ~40-50 minutes, with everything getting brighter and some euphoria. Somewhere in this time a man in his 50s came by and started an argumentative discussion about why my friend and I were promoting drug use. The man’s son was in prison for drugs and the man himself was/is an alcoholic. It was a weird scene, but I kept on saying stuff like, we’re promoting the legal use of substances as medicine (and explaining about PTSD, etc.), but not illegal use, I’m really sorry about your son, and so on. He was pretty worked up, but I was loving on him and he was accepting of me patting his back and leaning into him vs. pulling away. I finally walked him away from the table and (sincerely) wished him well and hugged him goodbye.

People I knew were coming by to say hello and hang out, and finally about 10:00 someone else from the group we were representing came by and agreed to take care of the table. Whew! Walking seemed an effort, I was having increased difficulty talking conversationally, and the sweat was pouring off of me (but no >heart rate). My friend and I found a place to sit on the floor at an open door. We felt waves of heat from outside and waves of cool from inside, so it was a good place to be. I was thinking, though, that a camping festy would have been much better so that I could go to my tent to lie down while this stage passed.

I danced a tiny bit, but unlike with MDMA, wasn’t called to dance. After an hour or so I went back to the table and was able to interact with people – though I would rather have not interacted (except the hugging and being close part). Meanwhile my friend went to hear one of the speakers and when he got back (~1am) we packed up the table.

Substance-wise, it was an okay experience. I did not like what I guess would be the peaking – too much sweat, small euphoria, pretty dysfunctional, and the setting was too chaotic for me. There was empathy and closeness – from the belligerent guy to people I knew. Based on the way I usually am, I would have interacted with that guy in pretty much the same way under most circumstances and would have been happy to snuggle up with people I like, though wouldn't have felt as free as I did that night. It felt vaguely psychedelic, but I wouldn’t say it was psychedelic. I may try 100 mg or I may not.

One odd side-note: I’ve had persistent gurning for ~8 months since, ahem, perhaps a little too much MDMA. Now, 1.5 days later it seems to be gone, though I was gurning right along all night the night I took it. Today (Monday) I’m a little irritable and down, but I don’t how much of that is having a cold, being tired, and/or the after-effects.

 

egg, graph is pretty accurate, though i'd say at ~6 hours it slowly goes down to ~ half strength, not all the way down like that graph shows. and then slowly down to baseline over the next ~6 hours

 

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=449988&f=114

^Any chemistry wonks (hint...pork... ) wanna help w a mescaline question?

 

@thismoment: Sounds like you got puddled pretty good, a fairly good description of 6apb I'd say. Not quite as lovely or lively as mdma but still somewhat spacey and empathogenic, I think I respond to it a bit more favorably and enjoy it seeing as I don't have a regular mdma connection but I hope 100 mgs goes a bit easier on you if you explore that dose.

 

Gonna try another kratom dose tonight. Gonna see if I can avoid the vomiting this time by taking just 4.5g. If after about 2 hrs I'm not digging it, I'll add another 1.5 g. I'm also drinking a bit (manhattans...mmm...) so we'll see how that combo behaves.

As usual, I'll let y'all know how it goes.

 

sweet! i'm getting very excited to finally try it after buying it 8 or 9 months ago.

 

shit, yeah...that is a long time to wait

good on you for waiting for the right time though.

may you enjoy it as much as i do!