Psychedelic Bump XVII

My suggestions for what to aquire are 2C-T-7, 2C-C, 4-HO-MiPT, & 5-MeO-DMT :daisy:

 

Ooh, cosmo, why did 5-MeO-DMT make the list?

From what I've heard that one intimidates me...

 

raga, i'm not counting dmt because it doesn't seem to produce tolerance like other psychedelics. it does produce tolerance, so that your dose must be inhaled in about a minute, any longer and tolerance sets in.
but people can blast off again in like 3 hours or so, so the tolerance is very short lasting.

and although dmt is intense by its very nature, i feel that i've only dipped my toes in it. i haven't been TOO blown away by it, and it's such a different trip that i don't think it will really take away any novelty from a 4acodmt, LSD, 2ce, etc trip.

i don't think we will stagger our doses like that. i think we will be fine. if i'm feeling worried i might lower his dose to 30 mg. and then i'll just be the one to freak out


edit, after reading your earlier report, writer, i'm DEFINITELY sticking with 45 mg
hopefully i can at least pretend to be functional 24 hours after dosing.

 

That's fascinating. I wonder if anyone has info on why it's different that way...

 

Close to the weekend

Knowing what form of aces you have, I'll chime in. I think since you've dipped into it already you have an idea how to gauge for yourself. For me, I don't know if I'm just more used to the headspace of aces, or if what I have has degraded some. With some fumarate I've had, 40 became quite an experience, the strongest oevs I've ever had on a trypt and very "dreamy", otherworldly. The last time for me was 45 of the fb version and it wasn't as strong as that trip.
You being experienced, I am confident that 45 will be "heady" as you put it, and not out of line. As your bro has accumulated a few deep trips, I'm also quite certain that he'd be groovy with 35-40 as well.
Personally, if I were in your shoes, I would go with the same amount for each of you so you can compare notes. You are an educated, safe and thoughtful psychonaut, I know that has rubbed off on your bro as well.
So my $.02 would be, 40 to 45 for you both. Same for each of you.
Good vibes for a nice experience. :sunny:

 

I've read 2c-e or maybe most 2c's don't trigger too much of a tolerance, especially after three days. Plus you were combining.

I think the 45mg and 36mg will be good doses and leave them content. 4-aco-dmt is so lovely and enjoyable. Even if it was really strong I don't see it leaving anyone unsettled for any large amount of time. This is in my case at least.

Pork, you should love 45. My 42mg trip with it was my highest and most favorite trip I've ever had.
Remind me how high you've taken it before?

All this week I've kept in mind trying 75mg of aces maybe next weekend. I have some 2c-i I've never tried and will have some 25i-nbome coming in soon but I just really feel like I'm desiring a strong experience soon and have no other thought but to do it with aces. It's been a while since I've decided to go deeper.

 

I'd suggest 5-MeO-DMT because A) it's entirely spiritual like DMT, and B) having smoked approximately 25-30mg that chemical floors you for a good 15 minutes and has its own unique form of hyperspace ala DMT as a relative chemical of the same family; in other words, around that dosage range you accomplish ego loss too fast to wig out. I know several people, some in person who'd swear by its amazing headspace…it's a cerebral, intellectual trip that IMHO REALLY KICKS ASS!

I cannot understand those ridiculous Trainwreck reports on Erowid, but for that substance, their dosage curve is accurate. Read the good reports on it here, there, Bluelight, drug-forums, etc. Those TR's far more accurately describe its magic.

It is actually quite similar to bufotenine (5-O-DMT, in theory and I'd most certainly wager in practice, so long as it's treated with the base CaHO²--calcium hydroxide which the best food grade source to remove the hydrogen is crushed seashells), DMT, DPT, and another two I've also yet to try, DiPT and MiPT. Oh and MET is another purportedly similar in its own regard as well.

Actually, if you were to get Yopo/seashell snuff, if you looked hard enough you can find it ready-made as 5-O-DMT because it's already processed where I've found it sometimes. From what I understand if you got a few feet of hollowed bamboo it's reported as an amazing Amazonian trip; the snuff is placed inside the length of bamboo opposite you, the bamboo on your end is placed inside your nostril of choice and a trip sitter gives a massive blow straight into your nose…I believe you tilt your head back and like DMT or 5-MeO-DMT, bufotenine is reported as a wonderful and deeply spiritual experience. You know, if you look hard enough there are also ayahuasca kits with ayahuasca vine ground up along with either chacruna leaves, jurema root, or chaliponga leaves.

Another natural choice would be ibogaine already synthesized or pulled or straight up iboga root from which a standard STB (straight to base) sing food grade lye, heptane (typically in Bestine®), purified water, and of course, iboga root ground to powder. This method is extremely easy and safe if you follow Spicey Cat's recipe for pulling DMT from jurema root bark, aka Mimosa Hostilis root bark, just replacing iboga for jurema and heptane for naphtha. Shit, for that matter, go get 'em tiger! Get all the ingredients and equipment for pulling DMT using her technique and trust me, the STB method she uses will yield a HUGE quantity.

No jokin' n' if'n ya do a great job and exercise patience and deliberate intent, not only is it fun but that way you get nearly white crystals at the bottom of your jars in the freezer near the end…plus, you can be super duper proud just like when trimming kolas off of female clones grown to maturity all by yerself

5-MeO-DMT is in chaliponga I believe so you could use that over MHRB and aside from 5-MeO-DMT, N,N-DMT (plain DMT)--so that way you could pull the two simultaneously and they'd naturally already be a combo!

Those are the reasons along with numerous other tryptamines to think over: DPT and DiPT would make a couple terrific choices. :sunny:

 

If you've tripped on both 2C-E & 4-AcO-DMT, & you're looking for a mondo trip outta this world I'd suggest 30mg 2C-E & 45mg 4-AcO-DMT combined into the same capsule. That trip pop will blow your mind. Me personally I'd go with that same dosage and use a ROA that bypasses first pass metabolism, but my guess is you'd find that jarring & perhaps uncomfortable & possibly too intense. My experience with aces in the spectrum around 75mg is that it's rather heady though too. Voyage, you mixed up pork n' me…he quoted heady from my description. You also either glossed over my question directly naming every island of Hawaii or something. C'mon be nice now…

 

because of MAO enzymes in the body, DMT is metabolized VERY quickly. that's why the experience lasts about 5 minutes. and that's why the tolerance is very short acting.

yes, the weekend is coming up fast, thankfully. i appreciate the suggestion, but i'm thinking more and more that these two doses are perfect. it's probably more likely that since i already had them scaled out - i'm making them be perfect. but i really do think they will be a good level for us.

Pop, i've only taken this batch once, at ~33 mg (2.7 + ~30 45 mins later). i definitely feel like i could use a significant bump up, hence 45 mg. but i don't wanna start my brother out quite that high. 36 mg should be enough to put him very near my level

 

bump for:
3-meo-2-oxo-pce

 

Waiting to see if my MXE comes in today. Going to see Zed's Dead, Omarlinx, Araabmuzik, and XI. W00t!

Anyone else in the NOLA are going?

No MXE today so 2CB and LSD it will be! Also just found out that Shpongle presents The Masqurade Feat Phutureprimitive will be playing in May. Woohoo!

 

Bump for deciding on 4-AcO-DALT fumarate, 4-MeO-MiPT fumarate, 2C-C, 25c-NBOMe, aMT, & 5-MeO-DMT as my next goodies

Sigh...

...and some black tar. Truer than true just as maintenance doses though.

 

Trippy psychedelic experience (begins at 22:00):

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This reminded me of my first 2ci expereince where I accidently insufflated and orally took in 40-50mg because i didn't have a scale.

 

Debating on buying HOT-7 or MBDB...or 2C-D

The rarity of the first two intrigue me but really I should probably slow down. I've received a lot lately.

 

never heard of any 4-methoxy compounds. i wonder if it's the 5-position, or the methoxy group that makes 5-meo-xxx generally pretty intimidating. i would guess it's the 5 position.

you'll have to let me know if 4-MeO- is scary like 5-MeO-

my hypothesis would follow that 5-AcO- WOULD be intimidating like it's 5-MeO counterpart.



just found out today that Built to Spill is gonna be in philly in june. too bad it's a 6 hour drive! i might go anyways, but hopefully they will come closer. i am dying to see this band more than any other in the world. other than MAYBE pinback.

 

I don't find the 5 methoxylated group tryptamines intimidating any more than 2C-T-7 or BDF. But it's my understanding that moving it to the fourth position makes it both like moxy and miprocin, I'm excited to have finally found it!!!

 

pop the hot-7 sounds amazing

 

Bump for about 100mg oral 4-FA earlier/ It was really nice, pretty euphoric. Smoked with it and still not sure what I think of that, I think I prefer 4-FA by itself.

Possible pre bump for ~25mg of 4-ACO-DMT depending on how I feel tonight

 

i've read a few things about possible neurotoxicity with 4fa? i really like dextroamphetamine so i've been considering ordering some.

 

Dextroamphetamine is one of my scripts of which I get 120 5mg cross-tops monthly for like $2.00. I'm quite literally prescribed something to pass any 12 panel test with the exceptions of PCP, MDMA/MDA, and perhaps one more I'd hafta look. Dexies are fun though.

Guer, dexies don't come any cheaper than I get 'em for...look it up on drugs.com, type Dexedrine and there ya go.