Psychedelic Bump XVI

2ci is an entactogenic hallucinogen. It's most comparable to 2cb but if you haven't tried that, somewhere in between MDMA and 2ce. It's fairly stimulating and somewhat analytical with emotional overtones. It's colder and less embracing than MDMA but it can feel really good at points. Visually I find it to be hit or miss but I haven't taken the dose too high, there is usually some day glo type color enhancement, optical illusions (like objects appear further or closer than normal) and it makes angles of objects really pronounced but it's somewhat sparse on the crawling with movement everywhere (persian carpeting) effect of 2ce. Closed eye visuals are also really sparse but can be engaging (slightly reminds me of Tron) , music enhancement is pretty great but I'm very selective with music on 2ci for some reason usually opting for uptempo tunes.

 

how potent is the hit you'll be dosing? and what's a budbomb?

i enjoy ingesting a little when i scale it out. dosing in my lab the other day was interesting.

have a blast tonight, dude. and happy birthday, voluptua!

 

^pork, where'd you get that banner? It's awesome!

 

psychonautMIA made it for me!

bump for some kind of a party tonight. there is a $10 show with TONS of jam type bands, a dude i met at a fest a couple summers ago is in town throwing a house party with "decks" and other raver shit, and a friend from school is having a more tame party with drinking and smoking. i'll probably settle for the 3rd, least wild one

 

Can someone help me out?

I've read

But I feel like recently I read they weren't that big of differences. I have HCl and am wanting to find a dose close to what I have tried with the fumurate.

 

Yay! I'm getting some strong lucy tonight
My friend is coming home from college for the weekend and he said he has some good hits.

So i'm pretty stoked! May save the tripping until tomorrow if all goes according to plan.

 

the only calculation i tried to figure out was fumarate to HCl

i got a molar weight of 246.3 g/mol for 4aces alone
+ HCl = 282.7649 g/mol
with "fumarate" it should be another 116 g/mol, so 362.3749 g/mol for 4aces fumarate

that is a ratio of 0.78, so 2 grams of fumarate would be roughly 1560 mg of HCl

those don't jive with the numbers i've read online, but i trust myself more. i do calculations like this for my job. i COULD be missing something, but i dunno what.

basically it's just adding the Molecular Weight of every atom. then you divide one by the other to get the ratio. what is your specific conversion, pop?

 

I don't even know what you mean when you're asking for my specific conversion. I don't understand these things so well, I just have stumbled upon those numbers a few times while reading about aces.

 

you can tune a piano, but you cant tuna fish..

 

what type do you have? and what type do you want to calculate the conversion to? shulgin's dosages for most chems are the HCl salt, but there is no entry for 4-aco-dmt, because he thought of it as basically 4-ho-dmt. the erowid doses are for the fumarate nowadays i think.

for example, i have the fumarate, but i wanted to know how much my dose would be in HCl

 

I have HCl. I want to convert fumurate dosage to HCl. It's not that big a deal if I were to be off by a certain amount anyway. I've taken fumarate dosages from 10-42mgs and they've all been wonderful. I'll probably take 20 and compare my future dosages to that.

I wonder if anyone here will dig this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSA0hw8jKrc"]Good Old War - Calling Me Names (Single) - YouTube

 

Decided to get piss ass drunk. Not something I usually do but considering the circumstances of my life, fuck it.

 

times it by 0.78

for example - 25 mg of fumarate is about 19.5 mg HCl

to go from HCl to fumarate (4-aco-dmt i mean), times it by 1.28 (1/0.78). 25 mg of HCl is about 32 mg of fumarate

not a bad tune

 

bump, about to have another go with the LSA Morning Glories. This time 10 HWBR seeds, for a possibly easier subtle trip.. we'll found out!

Finally a solo trip at home! Got some candles lit up, orange juice, an orange, tea, and grapefruit, looking for a good time!

 

Sounds like a good setup, have a great trip!

 

Bump for 21mg 4-AcO-DMT HCl

 

Happy trails!! :sunny:

 

Wtf, another misinformed tv station casting for people "adicted" to psychedelics.

http://www.realitywanted.com/call/15427-mtv-true-life-casting-im-addicted-to-psychedelics

 

there has been quite a few deaths in western canada lately, apparently from 'bad ecstasy'... i wonder what's going on out there?

http://www.vancouversun.com/Tainted+ecstasy+tied+sixth+death+Alberta/6063099/story.html

 

from the article linked above: