Psychedelic Bump XVI

I had to go somewhere so now I can better elaborate on the 4fa, this is my first trial with it. I did it about 30 minutes ago. I felt it in about 2 minutes and it started of euphoric (there is still some euphoria, now mostly just mood lift). There is good clean feeling stimulation and I feel awfully motivated. I turned a 40 minute walk/ skate into about 30 minutes. Music also seems enhanced. I really like it

Voyage and GB I hope you have wonderful trips

 

BUMP for my next five days:

TONIGHT: Smoke some good weed and watch the Northern Lights (they're supposed to be out tonight).

TOMORROW: Watching a movie and attending a discussion on Buddhism, which I think is a good prelude to Saturday's activities...

SATURDAY: Introducing one friend to LSD and another to 2c-e. I think it'll look like this:
--T (never tripped on anything before): 2 tabs of LSD
--H (some experience with psych's): 6-8mg of 2c-e (his first time dipping his toes in 2c-e)
--RM (me): probably about 18mg of 2c-e

and finally, NEXT TUESDAY: Introducing another friend to LSD
--L (tripped w/ me before on 2c-e but never done any acid): 2 tabs of LSD
--RM (me) probably 2 tabs of acid + 20mg 2c-e (I'm gonna be doing quite a bit to try to combat tolerance). Haven't tripped in over three weeks, and probably won't again for a couple months after this...it's going to be a good weekend though!

 

Yeah, They kick ass. I am going to see them later this month. I love that song, it's my favorite... love these two also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lzk4Ixm28Y"]Feed Me - Embers feat. Lindsay - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwX46eNDd2s"]Feed Me - Trapdoor feat. Hadouken - YouTube

That whole set is pretty badass.

 

raga, H is gonna be disappointed.

 

I thought somebody would say that. I started with 4mg; I felt it, I felt the direction it took me off-baseline. H selected his dose based on his own research (Erowid considers 6mg well above threshold and within the realm of "light dose"). You have no basis to predict his disappointment. In fact you're not even telling me anything I don't know about 2c-e. I've taken and enjoyed up to 16.5mg, but I also had good experiences with 6mg, and 10mg, and 12mg.

Even the wise folks at Erowid say (from the 2c-e dosage page): "As with any psychedelic active at low doses, extreme caution should be used when trying this material for the first time, because it can affect people differently."

H is playing it safe. If he enjoys 6mgs, he can always do more later. A couple things you should know about him: unlike T, he has done other psychedelics. He doesn't need to have a full-blown experience to learn what tripping is all about. He knows his way around drugs somewhat, he just likes to be safe and cautious when it comes to new substances.

I am giving T two tabs which I know to be a more substantial dose because this is his FIRST trip, he needs to have a fully immersive experience, and I am guiding him. Also it's much more likely he will not do psych's again, which H surely will. H chose his own dose and he knows himself well enough to make that judgment.

I don't understand the constant need to tell other people their doses aren't big enough.

 

how are you feeling now, is there any more you can say about it?
I wouldnt think this would be a good one to blow, it looks toxic

 

alright lets all chill out now. its just a discussion thread sheesh, in fact I would have said the same thing Pork did, but its all just opinionssss isnt that in the TOS?

 

Just feeling slightly stimulated now, but it was quite enjoyable. It burns like a mofo to snort, not quite as bad as 2cx and only burns for about a minute or so unlike 2cx which burns for like 10 minutes straight. I have a slight urge to re dose but it's not uncontrollable. Not as moreish as say, 4-MEC or even Pentedrone for that matter.

Also think I got ripped off for about 10mg of 5-MeO-Mipt and 100mg of Pentedrone. I'll see how things play out though

 

ohh man im super psyched to try 4-mec... im taking a decent break first after foolishly taking 6apb, pentedrone then 4fa in 3 consecutive days lol
im thinking I didnt enjoy 4fa because of that whole cross tolerance thing, it made me kinda anxious, it felt exactly like adderall but idk I guess smoother? and no euphoria at all.

 

I found 4-FA to be more euphoric but less edgy and less stimulating than Adderall. It also felt a bit cleaner if that makes sense (I did do a fairly low 4-FA dose though). I'm not sure which I prefer since I do like the stimulation of Adderall. I guess we'll find out when I do a higher, oral 4-FA dose. Was thinking about doing some tomorrow but I probably wont since I only have about 200mg and want to get the most out of it.

Bump for my first time with 2C-I tomorrow Really looking forward to it. Ever since I read of 2CI I felt like I would really like it. I hope I'm not setting myself up for disappointment. What would you guys suggest as a starter dose? I'm thinking maybe just going for 20mg but my more cautious side is saying 15mg. I'm leaning more towards 20mg though. Any input appreciated. Not looking to trip too hard (still live at home) but I understand that 2CI is a bit more 'controllable' than other psychs, but still

Possibly 2CI or 2CE and MXE on saturday ( I am aware of the thing known as tolerance ) . I've never done a Psychedelic/Dissociative trip and have been yearning to try it. We'll see how we feel. Saturday will be my first time toking in a month and I plan on getting pretty baked, so I may very well end up just passing out anyway instead of tripping

 

Fair enough, man.

Pork, sorry if I sounded butt-hurt.

 

raga, i didn't mean for it to come off that way.

have you actually found doses of less than 10 mg to be worthwhile? i am surprised if you have. you're correct that i don't have any basis for this PERSONALLY, as i have only taken as low as 12 mg of 2ce. even shulgin's recommendation is 10-25 mg, and his product is likely of significantly higher purity than ours
i didn't know that 6 mg of 2ce was considered a light dose. and it seems that when you're on a solid dose, and your other buddy is on 2 hits of L, the one of 6 mg of 2ce is gonna be left behind.
not trying to change his mind though.

 

Have fun with 2ci that was the first rc I ever did lol and was very interesting. lots of triangle and L⅂ type patterns.. idk id say its pretty average and a good one to start with.. not to visual. but i was certainly mind fucked.

 

how was it mang? oral nasal or plugged?

 

Not my first one, but still looking forward to it The empathogenic effects of 2CI mixed with the psychedelia I find to be very interesting. Very curious about how it'll be. Hopefully I like it more than I did 2ce

 

Yes, but of course that is only going by MY definition of worthwhile. I am not as experienced a psychonaut as you (obviously) so smaller, less far-out experiences are still new and interesting to me.

For my part, I found that doses of 4-8mg did a great job of introducing a free, open-minded, creative, trippy headspace, without inducing any actual hallucinatory distortions. One might not even deem such effects a "Trip," but "worthwhile"?: absolutely.

At 10mg the slightest notions of visuals (I call them sub-visuals: recognitions of patterns and energy, even without any alterations) appeared for me, which I also witnessed at 12mg. At 16.5mg I had actual visuals and a great phenethylamine body-high.

I have never experienced the much-hyped nausea of 2c-e, perhaps because I have always combined it with weed...

 

well didnt you, and dont most other feel the same way as me about 2ce being.. idk kinda worthless, i mean why would you want to take that because of how similar to lsd it is? ill stick with regular lucy thanks. 2ce<2ci<2ct2-- was so coollllllllllllll amazing colorsss!

 

Never tried 2ci or 2c-t-2. Some people I've read disagree that 2c-i is cooler than 2c-e, though. For instance, Shulgin included 2c-e among the "magical half-dozen" phenethylamines, and 2c-i didn't make that list...The only person I personally know who has done both reported that 2c-e was a more enjoyable experience for them (no idea how much of that is set/setting factor, though)

 

Hopefully trying 2ct2 soon .

I personally can see how 2ce can be worthwhile, but I have yet to feel it's full effects with my highest dose around 16mg. I find it extremely uncomfortable physically and almost zero mind trip. Also almost no music enhancement compared to other psychedelics and almost no euphoria. I found it extremely visual though. Next time I will try it at 20 - 25mg to hopefully unlock its full potential and see this mind trip that everyone talks about. I also probably didn't take it with the best mind set the couple times that I did it. Now that I am starting to mentally recover from a recent event in my life I am starting to feel pleasure again in my trips. When I did the 2ce it was about a month or 2 after the event. It is now about 3.5 months and I am starting to feel better, happier, and clearer mentally which has been translating into more pleasant and positive trips. Not to say that my 2ce trips were bad trips or anything, I just didnt find them enjoyable. It was very neutral

 

I'm eating right now, so maybe we'll see later but my stomach is alright at the moment, my body feels slightly exhausted but overall I'm feeling alright right now.

Sounds like you got H trip sitting there.

Knowing that you have an affinity for stims you should go for 20 mgs.