Psychedelic Bump XVI

not psych, but i should be picking up some dexedrine (dextroamphetamine) pretty soon. also just got a message that my guy found me some hash, so this should be a good week

 

Well of all those listed, 2c's b, c, & mescaline, mdma (which given the set & setting you're guaranteed to take on a WHOLE different perspective than before & actually fall in love with it...plus it's got amazing synergy with acid & with coke), moxy and/or foxy, iprocin and/or miprocin, oh yes, & methoxetamine and/or ketamine (again, drugs enhanced by yayo & purportedly L too). And considering how well they'd mesh...shrooms & DMT (just hear me out is all I can hope for)!
So if you just got a g of: 2c-c & 2c-b, maybe 3-4 of mdma, ½ one of moxy & likewise of foxy, 1 of iprocin & miprocin each & last but not least, 3-4 of MXE & the same of ketamine--oh and the shrooms, about 1½ oz., the DMT ½-¾g, all of which super easy to find and suggested based on their relative ease to socialize while on (mostly) and in some cases their augmentation of sociability such as with iprocin, moxy, 2c-c, mdma & MXE quite naturally innate of them. I have it on good intel and authority, plus a touch of faith that 1g+½g+1g+3g+3g (approximately)=~$300.00, which for a bachelor party ain't too bad; so alrighty, screw the rest other than 2c-c, iprocin, moxy, MXE--of course the acid--and maybe the shrooms and DMT.
Of which, for a gram each 2c-c and iprocin, ½g moxy & 3g each MDMA & MXE three bills ain't much, and though ketamine is the better choice, it's in a global dry spell so even knowledge of how to obtain it is sorta a waste with a) the trouble obtaining it, and more importantly, b) the exorbitant, outrageous cost...but methoxetamine has its own charm and flavor that while in not many ways too much like ketamine, it does bare some similarity, but unlike a k-hole a m-hole is neither totally immersive nor quite as relaxing (for me). With MXE less is more; a 35-40mg dose is pleasant while 2 50mg doses within 10 hours or so has its euphoria...but also when going into a m-hole for the couple hours that overlap IME/IMO are a few rather jarring hours spent coherent enough to know up from down, but too intoxicating to communicate effectively or to walk a straight line, let alone go in public (but on too much you don't realize you're that fukt 'til you try remembering an hour or less ago; your short term memory gets fuzzy and memory in general gets mixed up...one MAJOR reason MXE & public appearances do not mix). Now low dose MXE is quite enjoyable, a bit alien like shrooms, but still enjoyable AND you can eat it! Speaking of shrooms about a zip to 1½oz. in your part of the continent *shouldn't* be more than $75-125 depending on whether it's a zip or zip & ½ you got. And for a zip of dank it cannot possibly be more than $125 just like here. Rounding it off a slightly hard item to score, DMT, may drive some to a panic no benzo could help, so I imagine what you're already holding may be enough to initiate a few of your braver friends, but if it ain't enough a ½g shouldn't be more than $50. So $550 all told for the spendiest of all the most bitchinest of your party favors is about average a price for a bachelor party (considering most dudes do the bland, generic, lame shit like 3-4 kegs of Bud Lite, strippers, and a dancer SURPRISE! in a greater big cake) for what SHOULD be the most raging, biggest, exhilarating, memorable party of your life both before and after getting hitched, oh it certainly shouldn't be nor become a 'Mercan cliche dude!
Now I specifically suggested iprocin, 2c-c, & moxy for the same reasons as MDMA & MXE: They have profoundly intense body highs, one might say they take center stage over the terrifically mild mind fuckery most sikes are notorious for. Equally so, what mind highs these pleasure sikes do present is akin to the most beautiful, absolutely best, damn near orgasmic moods you've ever had squared. I imagine that like MDMA & MXE that iprocin, moxy, and 2c-c can effectively be taken sublingually since I know you're averse to intranasally taking drugs. But especially with moxy and more so with 2c-c it's imperative they bypass first pass metabolism for enough to cross the blood-brain barrier, and it don't take much: 15mg moxy, 40mg 2c-c. I imagine the generally considered 'lightweight' sike iprocin (which I assure at 50-60mg oral is almost an OBE), so hence I'd suggest 30mg sublingual. By that ROA 125-150mg MDMA should work as well as 250 orally.

Another unique bebefit of these sikes you should take my word will make a bangin party even merrier is that each has a half-life of a few hours, and I find nearly no cross-tolerance until you sleep; veritably speaking in other words, you could start your day (as could everyone there) testing one after the other all day 'til dusk, by which time you could easily have four distinct trips & spend the day stoned and snacking plus running about in the woods, then candyflip (MDMA + LSD), at the peak take rips of DMT and towards morning come down coming up on shrooms enjoying the sunrise at dawn. By evening you'd be exhausted and at that point the only commonality between your bachelor party and any other would be busting out some specially saved microbrews & imported beers! :
:hippy: :hat:
Saved as a sacred end to an indelible bond between you and your tripping buds, speaking of blunts go welk with beer, so you may consider throwing caution to the wind, buying a few wraps, and trading up vaping or the bong for some blunts with beers. Build a fire in the cabin's fireplace & get shucked corn, potatoes & jalepeno peppers all wrapped in foil along with pork ribbs and beef steaks with a pot of baked beans simmering while your A1 and Stubb's slathered meats and wrapped up veggies slowly cook away on the BBQ!

NOW THAT... how could that be beaten except by the wedding and honeymoon of course
:love:

...I don't suspect you'll take any if even a single piece of my advise, but if you look holistically at it: 40mg 2c-c, about the same of iprocin, 15mg of moxy, 25-35mg of MXE, all separated apart and only overlapping where one's going down while one's coming up, then I would take it a candyflip next as being your 2nd polydrug experience, one that's so common it's
retained that name since the '80's...smoking weed and guzzling microbrews you're no stranger to--but toking some DMT during the candyflip peak obviously outside that comfort zone of stone you've got. Mmmmm... BUT! Totally safe, rather inebriating yet still safer than driving down the freeway in rush hour traffic, that and you only live once and (ideally, but in your case surely) you only get married once, mazel tov from the heart buddy.

Heh... I was just joshin around about escorts and strippers. I know you're classier thab dumb wastes of cash like that, let alone to buy into the bullshit fantasies they try to con you into buying; and the slutty depths of depravity that their pimps or scummy bosses insist they go to, blevh. The lion's share of em have a spare tire around the waist, missing teeth and freakin green and brown NOT white where thetmy still rot in their skulls, saggy breasts with zero appeal, fake tans so orange skin, press-on nails like claws with tacky patterns, fading j-cat tats, roughly hewn features strongly suggesting they're drunks and meth addicts, bad make-up with extra, extra long lashes, terrible '80's fashion & raspy smoker's voives. Ick. Not sexy and yet the only nightwalkers I've seen across the US all fit that horrid description. I cannot even fathom where chicks like that would fit into a psychedelic bachelor party in the woods, lulz!

 

^^^i might take you up on the food combo you listed


cory, hope you and your buddy had a good time playing in the snow on LSD. i sure did today

 

Star Wars in 3D yesterday on 4 aces was pretty great. I started coming up earlier than I expected but I felt confident walking around the mall and there were some cool things to look at. It came on hard right at the end of the trailers. I felt great, but I had trouble focusing for long amounts of time. Seeing a movie right at the peak isn't the best because you have to talk to yourself in your head. I felt strong emotions during some scenes and wanted to burst out laughing several times. I was a little sketched at times though because I had weed on me and could smell it, so that was another thing to think about.

And of course seeing that final lightsaber duel was just perfect.

 

Props to you Popularity... You are braver than I, Seeing and hearing Jar Jar Binks in 3d on psychedelics for sure would send me spiraliing into a hell of a bad trip.

 

I am watching the Grammy's still going on the Mxe...

OOO That David Guetta > Foo Fighters > Deadmau5 medley was rough...

 

Loved the lightshow on the Beach Boys' appearance though

 

Reading cosmo's post, particularly the idea of "four distinct trips" made me wonder for serotonergics, what do you guys about cross-tolerance during tripping?

E.g. if I take a trypt such as LSD, at what point would it be too late to drop a phenethylamine e.g. 2c-e? Or vice-versa...

I am thinking of trying this combo and I would like to engineer it correctly. Someone (I think pork or GB) said they had dropped L and 2c-B at he same time and recommended droppin them together. This sounds great but it also occurred to me I will have all day (planning to rent a cabin--just like the guys at the bachelor party!!) so I can afford to have a variegated experience. In particular, I would like to try the combo but perhaps have a clean un-mixed LSD peak.

(Btw, there may be Molly present on this day and of course weed will be there. My friend H will probably be candy-flipping, I was planning to do 2ce+LSD, and we have a third friend T who will be taking his virgin LSD trip. Depending on how much we grab, I may have the option of putting molly in the mix--it would be my first roll).

So what do you think? If I've already peaked on 'cid would it be a waste to drop a medium-dose (say 15mg) of 2c-e (say at the 3-4 hour mark?); would cross-tolerance already have set in or would I still get a pretty good 2c-e ride?

ADVISE ME, technologists!

 

Raga: As I noted, until you fall asleep so long as you're not dosing insane amounts, it doesn't seem cross tolerance sets right in. All the same as the L peak subsides, take the 2c-e and mdma if it's right there...but right with each other; sparkleflips are insanely energetic and virtually on another plain with the right amount of each (50mg 2c-e + 250mg mdma).

Okay, so your buddies might be reticent to try much, but believe me when I tell you my recently departed buddy, best friend in fact, was thrilled as punch to have candyflipped and tripped LSD solo (sadly not MDMA, he only knew it with LSD). To have done all of JWH's-019, 081, 122, 201,210, 250, and 251, shrooms, DMT, aMT, 5-MeO's DMT, DALT, and DiPT, 4-AcO's DET, MET, and DMT, 2C's T-7, B, and E, mescaline, peyote, @kratom, methylone, methylphenidate, amphetamine salts, morphine sulphate, Dilaudid, Vicodin (even cold water extraction), methoxetamine, phenazepam, Xanax, Restoril, Klonopin, 4-FA, weed (especially Cali buds, in rural Texas they're rather rare, obscure even and therefore worth more than gold bouillon currency there even--but he'd settle for nothing but the best j's or vapour) dextromethorphan, calea (dream herb), bitter lettuce, blue lotus, sacred lotus, wild dagga, and absinthe.

There's not much better he in the wide world of drugs he surmised in his 60 years alive on earth than candyflipping--he adored the LSD experience, on average being an old Deadhead he didn't push it much past 120-160mcg and once the acid kicked in he'd eat a Rizla cigarette paper rolled up with ~80mg amber colored moonrocks. After the ecstasy kicked in he declared the candyflip so analytical, emotional, empathetic and such an effective tool for softening acid's rough edges, wiping out its suggestability and making better use of LSD but unwittingly as he'd only ever tried it as an adjunctive agent to "tame" LSD making it more of an internalized, less anxiogenic, more positive & colorful experienc And while his experience with it more or less amounted to the single time he experimented, I think, with MDMA, he captured the essence though of the psychological impact and the importance of MDMA's 'flip' experience since when his psyche was raw, maleable and "lysergicized" putty by the time the Molly peared up with the Lucy. So too were the untapped resources of the psyche of an abstract nature that normally overlooked for that very reason take on emotional meaning as he described, but that one trip I witnessed him take along with MDMA really made him a gentler man. He was drawn to the tranced out state in which the ego is objectified to an extent of internally intellectualizing one's own self, views of self, interpretation of other's views of yourself and so on. And his views went deeper than that and he had similarly complex views on the psychological health and sheer fun of low dose methoxetamine. He found 2C-B and 4-AcO' DET & MET fairly pleasurable, all also like you porkstock, always stretched out and protracted between dosing and always dosing low. But he only had such wide eyed, marveled views on candyflipping and dropping MXE. He never said much more than oh boy! or laughed out loud at his thoughts except to comment how 7 JWH compounds on weed was like 'pot after smoking itself all day' that 2C-B's afterglow resembled the afterglow of mescaline, that kratom was like codeine sort of, that wild dagga was sort of like pot...but nothing really stood out except his days on end raving TR's of the candyflip and of MXE.
Dude, ain't gonna pester you once more, but my 60 year old friend didn't bother trifling with words at his age and was very blunt about how impressed candyflipping and MXE amazed him. My 1st MXE trip was scary because of a few messed up things. But I can see its virtues more now than then...
I also can't picture a party where cocaine, E pills, NO2, GHB and ketamine/MXE aren't huge hits
This is America, those are club drugs, hence, patry favors too.
Lil Wayne wasn't caught with a bus full of aspirin

 

good thing I got my secret decoder ring..

 

It varied, 20mg each for the "kids" (they're both 20) 25 for my neighbor, 30 for his mom (older head from the 60's) and 40 for me. T'was the freebase aces.
Different reviews, neighbor's mom really seemed to like it, just chilled and listened to the music (we went off on Entheogenic most of the night) and we talked stories. Pretty interesting lady.
The younger ones had never done actual psychedelics, just lots of experience with mdma in club settings. Tried to pass on some tips on being safe, the guy had been turned onto pillreports so at least had some awareness of "know what you have".
Was a nice evening and like cosmo said, it was cool sharing something with some peeps they'd never experienced.

 

Bump for mxe...

 

that's pretty cool voyage. did the two that took 20 feel much?
how was your trip on 40 mg? that's a pretty hefty dose of the freebase right?

 

I didn't hear much from the guy, he kinda drifted off in his head and disappeared upstairs. His girl smiled alot and said she liked it.
As for mine, it was good, got kind of deep a few times with eyes closed and music, but wasn't as intense as I would have expected.
Observations: It comes on slower than the fumarate I've had, has a less steep 'curve' of a profile, and lasts longer. We started about 8pm and at 6am I was having trouble sleeping.
I've been wondering if aces has just lost a bit of the magic, or if the freebase just doesn't have the quality of other batches.
One thing I found interesting, and the older lady had the same experience, at one point I felt like I had peaked and was coming down, the music had been off for a few while we were rapping, the music was turned back on and we both took off again for a bit. Music definatly added to the experience.

 

I'm kicking myself for not taking MDMA last night for deep purple. the show was way more psychedelic than I was expecting.

 

deep purple, like the band from the 70s or whenever??

nice!

 

yeah, my buddies' band was opening for them for 4 shows of their current tour. pretty cool.

 

That's pretty cool

Smoked salvia like 4 times today and actually enjoyed it. First time was a solo warm up and then my friend and I did it at the same time the next 3. We both felt like the three were different types of trips, like we were passing the trials The first one with him was mainly mental, the second was more physical, and the third was more visual. Definitely my most enjoyable Salvia experiences

 

it is interesting how wildly different salvia effects people. My fiance, a friend, and I all smoked relavtively the same amount and everyone had very different experiences. My friend and Spliff had a very light trip with opened eyed visuals and that tugging disconnecting feeling also that body on fire, flushing and sweating and all that.

I on the other hand was completely taken by it. I forgot that I had even smoked it and became very confused, I was no longer in my house and couldn't figure out how I got to where I was. The fight or flight response was very apparent but I didn't freak out. I kept my composure even though I was wracking my brain trying to think back and remember how I got to where I 'was'. I was watching TV and before I knew it I was there. I was watching Tosh.O and Before I realize I was 'tripping' Daniel Tosh started talking to me. That is when I was like WTF? I kept asking him what over and over again and he told me 'Don't worry, you only have a few more minutes, come with me,' and he starting bring me around showing me things and I said aloud 'what' again and Spliff (he was sober at the time) was like 'What are you talking about?'. I just sat there for a second, I was 'outside' and could feel the sun beating down on my skin, I thought Greg was there with me even though I couldn't see him. I finally asked 'What did I take?' because I thought I took something that fucked up my memory and that was why I couldn't remember how I got there. He told me that I smoked Salvia and I was perplexed, I asked 'WHEN??' and he responded 'Just a minute ago'. That blew my mind. Finally Spliff made me look at him and I kinda snapped back but it was like my neck was rubber and I snapped back to the TV. Apparently I was holding my hands out and Spliff asked me what I was doing with my hands and I looked down and said 'I... don't know'. It literally felt like I was holding something up. I could feel the pressure on my hands. It was so strange. By that time I started coming around. The 'afterglow' was the most pleasant part. The experience was not exactly scary but it wasn't exactly pleasant, I would definitely give it another go with no TV next time.

 

was that your first trip on salvia, GM? if not, was it the strongest?