Psychedelic Bump XVI

Discussion in 'Synthetic Drugs' started by porkstock41, Jan 22, 2012.

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  1. cosmoknot

    cosmoknot Humboldt County Homey

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    I don't know about all of that. I usually take the SNRI bupropion which is branded Wellbutrin. I do take Tranxene (clorazepate) as an adjunctive anxiolytic and Dalmane (flurazepam) as a hypnotic, even Geodon when I don't trip. So most of the time. Bupropion is actually a cathinone so it's mildly stimulating but overall it helps and may be uncool, towit IDGAF.

    Thought y'all might dig this:

    http://www.ayahuascaassociation.org/category/videos
     
  2. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    debating investing in a testing kit. do you guys think it's worth it? it'll just be to test MDMA, i'm not really into anything else. also debating if i'm going to bother with a scale or not. the one i have now is for weed and only goes to 0.1
     
  3. Popularity

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    you can't measure rc's with a .1 scale
    but yes, you should bother with getting one
     
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    Ziprasidone makes me wanna smoke crack..
     
  5. eggsprog

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    not really worried about RC's though, it would just be for MDMA, with which eyeballing a dose is easier and less dangerous. pretty simple to divide the gram into 5 equal looking piles :)
     
  6. guerillabedlam

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    A testing kit can be worth it but there are some limitations to it, like for the marquis test there a few chems that test the same as MDMA, and I think there are even some ways to make it give the equivalent of a false positive for MDMA with chems that would normally test differently.

    A scale is worth it as well to check and make sure you got the right amount and to get precise dosages but MDMA is pretty forgiving and can be eyeballed pretty easily.

    So for the immeadiate time being if you're going through some trustworthy, experienced friends to acquire your mdma, neither is probably absolutely necessarly but they both are a worthwhile investment especially long term.
     
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    ChrisFromScotland Lang may yer lum reek

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  10. Black_Lotus

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    Finally some Lucy! My first solo trip on acid in months! Got the room raved out in blacklights, candles, fruits, teas, meditation spot, paints, and a my own artwork! A good night!
     
  11. G0dm4ch1n3

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    Have fun, BL. Sounds like you have everything set up just right. How much are you taking?
     
  12. Black_Lotus

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    umm.. 3 or 4
     
  13. cosmoknot

    cosmoknot Humboldt County Homey

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    My mom usta grow nicotiana rustica in her flowers out front. I've been reading about different drugs and then trying them since I was 14, so it goes without saying I pissed her off a time or so plucking their leaves, drying them & smoking them. Like brugmansia, nicotiana is a cousin of tobacco. Like brugmansia, though not nearly as high in alkaloids as brugmansia, the nicotiana flowers have more nicotine than tobacco, as well I'd wager as the most addictive alkaloid from tobacco, a strong MAOI that I'd be guessing accounts for its trance inducing property.

    As for GB's comment re: false positive reagent reactions to the Marquis test for MDMA, I'm pretty sure all DOx, TCB-x, TMA-x, mescaline and relative analogues like escaline, allylescaline & the like (aside from the obvious, MDA) can all trigger false positive results; essentially it seems psychedelic amphetamines and certain phenethylamines have that potential: most prominently, MDA aside, the DOx class apparently is more likely to than not.

    Hell, add a methylenedioxy chain to say psilocin or another tryptamine and that probably would also.

    porkstock: I did indeed keep my word and did the 4-aco-dpt solo. As suspected, juat as 200mg dpt reaches a similar state as does 50-75mg dmt, so too is the 4 sub dosing curve kinda high but worth it though not cheap.

    75-150mg (150 being my bump for this evening) does what 25-50mg 4-aco-dmt does, just in a more dpt-ish way...more hypnotic, more sparkly, and tons more euphoric!

    I'd agree with 98%ish of this; the only part that seems senseless is about the trouble you suggest having to go through to smoke Sally. Like DiMiTri I'd recommend either sandwiches of weed, wormwood, dagga, Syrian rue extract, calea, prickly poppy, intoxicating mint, California poppy, bitter lettuce, or virtually any herb sans kanna, though in spite of its SSRI effect, since salvia is essentially a NMDA agonist and my guess is partly if at all serotinergic then even kanna is likely safe (& personal experience tells me that the 'dangers' associated with SSRI/SNRI use in conjunction with psychedelic drugs is greatly overly exaggerated; with entactogens or serotonin bombs, that's where it's pointless to take a SSRI/SNRI with one such drug--but mainly because the antidepressant cancels out the entactogen. The only other case for caution is with MAOI antidepressants/psychedelics and even then IME as with t7, t2, amt, or foxy just dosing low and doing so orally but also choosing nearly 100% safe drugs of their accord to conjoin together like DMT, miprocin, metocin, low dose 2ce, decent doses of -b or -c, mescaline, or LSD have proven fun and nowhere near dangerous (I have been told shrooms and t7 is both a blast plus safe too). T2 at a dose around 45mg when taken, then at full effect turned a smoked dose of approximately 50mg DMT into nearly a breakthrough that lasted for 45 minutes...which brings me full circle. If not sandwiched between herb(s), like deemster, just put about 10 finely meshed screens--brass works best due to its greater durability and heat retention--into your pipe or bong's toking apparatus and you're surefire not to lose a lick of salvia. A bong is better since salvia is harsh, and a bong with an ice chamber is ideal. No matter what though being a dissociative psychedelic, a breakthrough dose is more like a k-hole than a trip to hyperspace via DMT; i.e., it's more jarring coming to, too IMO than a heavy breakthrough using the same techniques for ingestion of DMT. It's rather surreal and worth the trip, but a standardized dose of a 20x extract WILL dilate time and that 5 minute rush will feel like a few hours, that's some super intense shit you got there.
     
  14. guerillabedlam

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    You're way off on a couple points, Salvia is primarily a kappa opioid agonist similar to Ibogaine but more concentrated and Salviorin A is only released when being burned at a really high temperature, so Putting something on top of the Salvia is counter productive, in fact many recommend to use a torch lighter opposed to a regular lighter. But yes a bong is usually optimal for Salvia.
     
  15. G0dm4ch1n3

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    Can't wait to get my Kratom in. Just ordered a shit ton! 6 ounces of 6 different strains plus an oz of Bali crushed leaves. YUM!

    Saw someone mention Captain Kratom, did you have any luck with that brand? I bought some from the local headshop and thought it was complete crap. *shrugs* They didn't have any powder, just the crushed leaves. I prefer the powder, much easier to prepare and consume. Just add to yogurt and eat.
     
  16. cosmoknot

    cosmoknot Humboldt County Homey

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    I know that salvia is primarily a kappa opioid agonist, though nowhere near as potent as ibogaine; but I ain't off on its NMDA effect, however I don't believe it to be remotely MAOI; look it up if you doubt me (pretty sure it hits your GABBA receptor sites a bit too).

    On the other hand, I've successfully smoked both salvia and DMT via the sandwich ROA. Albeit I'll concede that it's a half-assed method for either (even using a torch lighter). On the other hand we both agree an iced bong loaded with like ten brass, finely meshed screens is optimal. Oh man I wish it didn't taste so nasty though.
     
  17. guerillabedlam

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    If it worked for you that's great, i'll take your word on it but it's not really an efficient method...

    DMT Melting point = 104 degree farenheit
    Salvia Melting point = 464 Degree farenheit (higher than pot)

    Basically if you are limited to using a bong you want to try to burn one (DMT) little as possible hence the sandwich and burn the other as much as possible, hence no sandwich. A bong with a torch lighter is actually usually considered the most efficient method with Salvia Extract.
     
  18. cosmoknot

    cosmoknot Humboldt County Homey

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    I'll take your word on that guer, hence to conceding that even with a torch lighter in a sandwich it works just not that efficiently...I would guess I smoked 3x as much as necessary the bong way with you (you surely had to notice it spaced me out used as such: I am 110% certain I still only got a taste of its power that night though. All my previous experience with it using torches & bongs STILL didn't hold a candle to that I surmise b/c that's the 1st 15-20x *standardized* I've to this day had. Headshop "extract" shit is about like Mexi-brick weed + sub par hits of NO2. SURELY you must know a 15-20x standardized hit regardless of how correctly smoked outflanks headshop bullshit anyday.)
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S83rU5IlDHs&feature=related"]Sokka On Cactus Juice - YouTube
     
  20. SuperPsychMe

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    Bump for about 4mg of 5-meo-mipt and about 3mg of 2ce insufflated. Never again is 2ce touching my nose. I remember it burning but not that bad. I wanted to keep it at a shorter duration for tonight.
     
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