Psychedelic Bump XVI

Watch the Drugs Inc. special on MDMA. You should be able to find it streaming somewhere online. They go into great depth on the origins and manufacture of MDMA, beginning right with the Sassafrass tree. The purity can't reach 100% in a rational lab setting.

 

I'm sure I've already seen it, but will look for it again to refresh my memory.
Realistically it is hard to achieve 100% purity in most synthesis of chemicals, so that being the case with MDMA doesn't surprise me at all.

 

its a pretty tight show. the episode this week is on designer drugs and research chemicals. check it out

 

The way I understand it is that if your MDMA is MDMA Hydrochloride (MDMA HCL, which most MDMA is I believe), then yes, 86% of the mass will be MDMA, and 14% will be HCL. This DOES NOT mean that "MDMA can only be 86% pure", because if I have 1g of MDMA HCL, and I test it in a GCMS, and it comes back 86% MDMA/14% HCL, then that my friends is 100% MDMA HCL, or a 100% pure product. So there is some loose language being thrown around here. You can have 100% pure MDMA HCL, which will be composed of 86% MDMA and 14% HCL by weight, but I would never take a pristinely pure >99% batch and just say "Yeah well it's only 86% pure actually".

Ganja weren't you disappointed by your "amazing 86% pure mdma from europe"? Just like you were disappointed by your powder MXE which you swore up and down is always better than crystal mxe?

 

bump for ~15mg moxy, this is truly some amazing stuff! I'd liken to being the 2c-b of trypts! Very euphoric and an almost aphrodisiac body load, wooonderful!!!
:daisy:

 

Cosmo, are the visuals from Moxy more mushroomy than 2C-B? I have a suspicion that the first time I thought I took 2C-B it was either Foxy or Moxy, whichever one is suppose to be more visual. I say that because whatever I took had an amazing electric, vibratory, physical body high similar to MDMA, way way stronger than what I have gotten from 2C-B. The visuals and auditory hallucinations were similar to B but much more vivid and intense than even my highest dose of 2C-B. This mystery chemical that I, at first, believed to be 2C-B was sold in pill form. I know foxy or moxy have been sold in pill form and from what I have read regarding effects my new theory is that it was one of those chemicals. Like I said, whichever one is suppose to be more visual. I get them mixed up. Never taken either chemical before to personally compare to the mystery drug. Whatever I took that night was absolutely amazing though and I would love to experience that again.

 

yo man. i just saw your post on my wall. i don't think i can pm yet though. im not sure if its cuz im new. whats up?

 

gram of molly should be here within the week!!!

 

I usually compare moxy more to MDMA than 2cb, it's very vibratory and more overtly physical in nature. There is a slight 'shroomy' quality but for me it's been limited to feeling pretty much like the onset of a shroom trip visually and it doesn't really have a heavy weirdness factor like most tryptamines do. Moxy is more potent than Foxy dosage wise, but if I recall correctly I think Foxy is generally regarded as more visual and tends to create more nausea.

 

Lot of RooR abuse here, he is belligerent a lot which is pretty annoying and childish but does most of the community hate him? wow i really do not think so he's alright.

so cosmo got me interested in moxy even more now what's it like for snorting, say i swallow 10mg and give a friend 5mg to snort is it worth it?

 

you've got me interested too. any friend of molly is a friend of mine

 

Ethanol was exactly what was on my mind, actually. But MDMA is a solid at room temp, and the mass generally doesn't go a noticeable amount up or down, unless it's up your nose or down your throat. And it seems improbable that MDMA in the middle of a mass would react with anything, either. 89% is simply a low potential purity for a solid, imo.


And I think writer cleared that up nicely. After all we do measure the amount of total compound, including acid, in both medical and clandestine pharmacology, to the best of my knowledge. Or why not say MDMA has no MDMA in it, and give ratios of elements?

Really...... Lot of help you gave them. I'm sure you have a better idea about most things I speak on, but keep said idea private for reasons unknown.

Be that as it may, you can hate all you want, and I will still speak out and do my best to help check your blatant and proud stupidity.

Well thank you.....

But I really don't think that about most, I just really have a hard time leaving what I see as incorrectness of any sort un-checked. You, for instance, have shown yourself to be miles ahead of, and decades wiser than, myself, on most fronts. But if I think you're wrong about something, I think the only thing to do is say something. Maybe I can set you strait, and if not, hopefully you will set me strait (however much I may resent it at the time). Ganjabeliever, the fella who thinks dosing peeps without telling them first is "funny" simply deserves boatloads less respect than you, or indeed, than most.

 

bump

for...

DMT

...finally.

i tried it with a fellow HFer. he came over with his vapor genie pipe. i gave him 35 mg of old, but refrigerated DMT to load for himself. he finished it in about 4 or 5 tokes and then it was my turn.

i loaded a weighed dose of 30 mg, figuring there would be some residue left from him. i vaped this in about 4 or 5 tokes, but i only vaguely tasted it on the last two hits. this resulted in something subtle, but i quickly decided i should do more. i got myself a 41.5 mg dose and loaded it all. i think i might have waited too long in between the two doses, but when i got to smoking the 2nd dose, i did it more enthusiastically, maybe with an improvement on the newly learned technique. it worked.

i definitely didn't break through. the first thing that happened was that my right ear felt like it was transported to an empty auditorium - a "loud" silence. i was reminded of GB's comments about water rushing in his ear or something. i giggled and tried to say something about it's working. it didn't sound like my normal voice. it didn't sound like it was me. as i closed my eyes i got the most all encompassing "psychedelic swirls." they weren't colorful though. it was mostly black, like when i normally close my eyes, except that everything was turning in on itself and mixing together. i described it as black smoke-water. and when i spun 180 degrees in my chair to face away from my computer screen and towards a blank wall, i felt like this black smoke-water was now a 360 degree closed eye visual.

when i lowered my head or laid my head back, it felt like i was close to getting swept away by one of...i dunno.

it was a heavy tryptamine breathing effect, like i remember from my early mushroom trips. closed eye only though.

i'm not afraid of DMT anymore.

i got interrupted by my fiance from the other room - asking if i was OK. she's not a good sitter for DMT i think that "helped" bring me back to reality a little quicker. the whole thing was over in about 2 minutes. then we vaped some cannabis real quick and headed to see this local band that i've wanted to for awhile.

a pretty good night.

and i got my new bicycle today.


two questions: do you think the minute or three between 30 mg and 40 mg, effectively made it like two separate doses? what i'm thinking is that 30 + 40 does NOT = 70 mg at once. but i think i will start with 50-75 mg all at once next time. maybe in my bong with the sandwhich method.

2) is it like a COMPLETELY different drug when you do breakthrough? like with salvia, it seemed like a crappy "weed substitute" when i first tried some. 7 years later i broke through and it was a million times more intense, frightening, and traumatizing. i don't think DMT will be like that. i think i got a good peak at what's to come. a darker room with maybe some candlelight might help. and being alone, possibly with no music.

music was radiohead's plastic trees, by chance, and it was a great "choice"

 

Glad to hear you had a good experience man. I plan to be joining you in the next few weeks.

 

Holy shit I'm looking at pictures from less than a month ago when I had my braces on and I looked so much younger and weirder. They stood out a lot.

 

Bump for about 50mg MXE sublingual and finally getting this thread in my posts

 

Foxy, moxy, MDA, DMT...

You guys are makin' me jealous! I couldn't find ANY of that stuff in my town!
(Not that I want a DMT trip anytime soon...)

Molly and Weed are the only good things you can always find here. (Aside from the hard stuff). Shrooms are elusive but supposedly they are around. NEVER heard of any dealer moving acid here, certainly not RCs like Moxy...

(Thinking about doing my first candyflip sometime later this year...that should be fun!)

Tonight it's 12mg of 2c-e for me. Not too heavy. Psychedelic at the beginning, now just a + and cruising around the web.

 

I look forward to trying moxy again. Quite unique but I feel that I will enjoy it more during the summer months. Slightly shroomey with the visuals it gives but also has tactile sensations. I'd try and compare to MDMA but I havent really had a full blown MDMA experience. 5-Meo-Mipt is something special though

 

I've been researching this 2C-E recently but haven't done it. Looks great from everybody's experiences. Is it really that clean that you just came down off it smoothly and are surfing the web? and how long does it last? shorter than acid?

 

is that your highest dose yet?

no, it is not that clean. 2ce gives a pretty significant body load to me AFTER the trip is over - including a splitting headache and stomach feeling like it's tied in knots. the trip lasts about as long or longer than LSD for me, about 8-12 hours.