Psychedelic Bump XV

I would have been straight up too, Ganjabeliver. I mean they DID ask for your opinion. If they don't like the truth they never should have asked. I voice my opinion about the dope I buy without being asked. If my weed is shitty I will straight up tell them their weed is shit. Goes with anything else. Not trying to be a bitch but it's like if you went to the store and bought something that was stale/molded/damaged you would return and complain, right? No difference. I am paying YOU for a PRODUCT and I expect quality stuff. ESPECIALLY on those occasions where they claim it's 'kill' and claim that all their friends say the same. You can't bullshit a bullshitter and if you really do think that your stuff is the bombdigity and it's NOT, then that just makes you a poor dealer and I will never trust your opinion again and probably put you on the back burner.

 

I kinda feel this is a worthwhile discussion. Starting from the "sample difference chems" to this...

At first glance this makes total sense. It really is a complicated issue, not easily broken down into black and white. I tend to feel that at a certain point one can look at another and realize they have a problem. Where exactly that line is, is hard to say. I could do a Foxworthy riff, something like...
"If you lose your job cause you're high, you might be an addict"
"If you get bounced off the hood of a squad car, cause you're high and talking back to a cop, you might be an addict"
"If you get taken to the hospital to have your stomach pumped, you might be an addict"
I say this all from personal experience. Every one of those things happened to me. Or should say, I did to myself.
On the other hand, just because one chooses an "alternative" life like running the Rainbow circuit, camping out or living on the streets, etc... doesn't mean they have an addiction problem.
The nature of humans is to repeat the things that make us feel good. It's easy to call it addiction when its something that alot of people think is detrimental, like drugs or spending all your money on the horses. But we all know addiction can take many forms. I'm addicted to riding motorcycles and people rarely consider that an addiction. When I tell them I was almost killed on one, and bought another as soon as I was able to ride again, they usually feel differently.
Sitting on the couch playing xbox and eating cheetos all day is pretty safe by comparision. Until you have diabetes and heart disease. It's pretty hard to say when enjoying something becomes addiction and self destruction.
After my experiences in my youth, both my own and watching others around me, I now mostly define addiction as doing something that is near impossible to stop, to the exclusion of quality of life. When I realized that smoking weed morning noon and night, literally, was keeping me from a better career, doing things I wanted to do, and frittering away my life, I made the choice to quit. Which I did for over 20 years. Along with alcohol and everything else except caffeine and nicotine. Not for props, but like GM said, I felt I had a big problem.
For me, I'm not interested in alot of things, (on the topic of trying things for the experience) if they fall into certain categories.
I know there's a good chance I"ll abuse them.
They take me places I dont want to go. (like speed, caths, opies, pcp)

I'm interested in the psychedelic headspace, what I does for my perspective and my person. AND, because I enjoy it. I enjoy it like a nice ale. Like an good road on a good bike on a beautiful day. The moment I don't go to work because I have to trip, blow off a responsibility to a friend or loved one cause I'd rather get drunk, or develop problems because of my use. For me, that's when it becomes addiction and abuse.

I sort of defended PS and Shiv's post about disinterest in some things partly because my take on their comments was a mixture of not wanting to venture into "risky" areas, and, that there are some things they're just not interested in. And really, that needs no justification if that's the case.

And you know, I would hope that when it's all boiled down, that we remember to try to hear what someone is saying first and not get to riled, assuming they're passing on advice or opinion instead of attacking. Happens here sometimes.
None of us are experts, or we probably wouldn't be hanging here. But there are some hip cats here, that share experiences and care about others. And maybe sometimes that gets forgotten.
Or something like that... I dunno...

But holy shit did that make me laff my ass off.

Speaking of that crazy squirrel and his sig...

Only a fool in here would think he's got anything to prove

Pretty wise cat for a nutcase. :2thumbsup:

 

Can't wait to see how this turns out. I've wanted to try this for a while. I have a mixture of DOC and alcohol stored in a test tube and I just turned the mouth of the tube over on my tongue and then took it off so I just got a really small amount of liquid. Last time 2.5mL was really strong; I just got a little drop this time to see if it brings any threshold stimulation and color enhancement type stuff.

GM, what was your MXE dose?

 

Hmm, this is Interesting. Really? Or is this just an emotional statement to make a point? I'm loving MXE but finding myself dosing it less and less over time. It's almost like I've gotten bored with it. I have sampled synthetic cannabinoids and find them fascinating but I don't think I've ever used one to excess. Many would consider my daily use of cannabis flowers abusive and you are welcome to those thoughts. Given the pharmaceutical cocktails I do not dose anymore, I'll stick with my poison.

My N,N, DMT use is at an all time low and yet the integration and lessons I am receiving are at an all time high.

The cacophany that used to be my mind in almost all states (altered or baseline) has quieted radically. Meditation is now easy. I used to think I wanted to die tripping. Now I accept that it will happen when it does - I hope to be meditating.

Anyway, not really feeling that defensive here, more fascinated. If I am exhibiting signs of abuse then I'm in real trouble because I'm not seeing it at all. Thus this might be the very first step to a wakeup call for me. I see myself as an ongoing sine wave of use with the distance between each wave's peak and trough gradually increasing over time. There is sometimes weekly dosing and sometimes 3-6 months occurs between dosings these days. This change in dosing schedule and increased meditation all came as a result of integrating a monster of a difficult experience from April, 2011.

Does this mean I only dose once or twice a year as yourself and others? No, I follow the call, whenever I safely can, wherever it leads. Some weeks that's weekly or even more frequent dosing (those are not the usual for me - they tend to come in clusters of weekends, 2-4 at a time). Most weeks of the year, to be honest, that means just cannabis.

Anyway, clearly this has made me think. Let's talk more. And let's do it openly - no need for PM's. I'd love to hear others' opinions. If I'm becoming abusive, it is those who know me but look from the outside who may see it best. The feedback I've been getting from close real-world loved ones has been basically saying, "Keep it up, we love what's happening to you!" Maybe they are too close.

EDIT/Post Script: In my own defense/justification: I feel I am uniquely suited for this kind of exploration. My mind is decades old and well developed - I have a firm foundation of self to return to and I do so unconfused. Being middle aged without children and without the ability to bear them is also ideal - no worries about birth defects, etc. I recognize that with RC use I am a guinea pig. I just feel I am uniquely qualified for the position, .

 

Initial dose was 65mgs. I then did 3 20mg booster bumps through out the night. I started at 8:00pm and was back to base line by 4:00am.

 

I don't understand how you can dance around and function on that dose. I have a good time with friends at 20mg.

 

I found that if you sit still for too long you kinda become stuck like that but once you get up and move around it is very easy to dance. The music was literally moving my very numb body. It felt amazing like I was dancing liquid.

 

Ya know, you're a wise Cat

I whole-heartedly agree in the value of another persons perspective. Especially loved ones that are close to you in person. Which contrasts nicely with what we have here, the opposite. Pretty hard to know the nuanced details of someone and their life through a few posts.
The fact that you practice self-awareness, meditation, and have a considered life, inherently puts you in an altogether different bracket from the sterotypical "drug addict". For me, I make a point of being congniscent of my use of psychedelics and alcohol. I have always gotten the impression from your posts that you do as well.

 

Speaking for myself, I find the synergy in that combo to be profound and somewhat incapacitating (including motor control wise) in an up and down, in and out pattern for many more hours than each substance produces on its' own. I would suggest keeping that combo at home and close to bed.

Peace and love.

 

You're (or whoever told you this) is not doing it right. When vaporized it has zero taste/flavor. It's kind of terrifying to be honest. The vapor is so cool and tasteless you almost think you did not take a hit. And then. . . . oh shit.

 

Thanks, Spicey!

And just my 2 on the taste of DMT. Smoked out of a pipe it's... different. I kinda like the way it tastes and it grows on you. The taste of it is the last thing on my mind when I smoke DMT.

Anyhow, wanted to share this song. It is amazing! If you don't have good speakers you are really missing out! Behold!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUGzY-ihqWc"]Blue Foundation - Eyes On Fire (Zeds Dead Remix) - YouTube

 

moving along..

 

Oh, ok. Just as it was getting fun...

 

But since when has that made for good drama?

 

did you know that 1.8 people die a second.. but what the fuck is a .8 of a people?..

 

It's two people, but one only kinda died.

 

yawn.. this thread is killing me.. haha

 

So there are sorta dead people amongst us?

 

dead like this ..