Psychedelic Bump XV

Discussion in 'Synthetic Drugs' started by Spicey Cat, Dec 11, 2011.

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  1. Ganjabeliever

    Ganjabeliever Advanced Knowledge

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    I heard smoking only lasts a few minutes... and is more addicting to boot... i just like being relaxed. not the rush. twas quite nice.
     
  2. p0ly

    p0ly Senior Member

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    that's rubbish after i've smoked a fair bit it's lasted for ages.

    they say IVing you get the mega rush that only lasts 10 mins or so. i guess smoking you just get a much smaller rush which peaks fast but lasts a fair bit of time.
     
  3. p0ly

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    16:39 still awake just ate dinner think i'm gonna crash soon :p
     
  4. Mr.Writer

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    I guess the reason people keep harpin on opiates is that if you OD on them you can die, unlike with pot or even ketamine realistically. And the addiction is much more intertwined with your body, I mean if you abuse pot or ketamine it's not like your body stops producing proper natural cannabinoids and NMDA stuff, but that's exactly what does happen with opiate use, your body stops producing natural opiates so when you're not on the dope you are miserable and NEED the dope. It's also ridiculously expensive as a habit, 50-100$+/day no? I can barely afford a nightly toke of the ganja, I can't be forkin up 50$+ for an oxy or else i'll feel like I have the flu :p
     
  5. Shivaya

    Shivaya Y'a rien de trop beau pour la classe ouvrière.

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    I think its ridiculous that this is even a debate. There is no way in hell that being ''addicted'' to cannabis is even as close to as bad as being addicted to opiated.

    Has anyone ever seen a REAL junky? Nodding out in public, full of sores, no cares about hygene, eating, or anything else than getting his fix? It's nasty shit. And the junky will do things a million times worse than the pothead to get his fix.

    I know im talking about the worse, worse, worse possible scenario, but opiates are worse period no?
     
  6. felix4life

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    ya this discussion is really no discussion at all. Opiates are fail.

    Still amped from 2c-e, couldn't really sleep much. It's been 13 hours since I took it, is this normal?
     
  7. guerillabedlam

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    It's not unheard of to get minimal sleep after long trips, your body and mind probably haven't fully recovered yet from the trip.
     
  8. Shivaya

    Shivaya Y'a rien de trop beau pour la classe ouvrière.

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    Trying Kanna Today. I'm feeling it, but its nothing to get too excited about. Kinda mellow. Comfortable.
     
  9. felix4life

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    I'm still amped up, engine is revving.

    Last night's trip has totally changed the way I will trip on RC. no wonder some people love to run endlessly in the woods on mushrooms. Even indigenous tribal groups have been known to dance all night while tripping. If anyone knows of these tribal groups and their rituals, please point me to a source.


     
  10. felix4life

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    Is it just plain Kanna or 5x? the 5x works pretty good for me.

    Only pot for me today.

     
  11. Shivaya

    Shivaya Y'a rien de trop beau pour la classe ouvrière.

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    its plain Kanna leaves. What does it do for you exactly? For me It just feels like weed without the mind scrambling
     
  12. felix4life

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    For me the 5x is kind of like weed but more like an antideppressant.

     
  13. Shivaya

    Shivaya Y'a rien de trop beau pour la classe ouvrière.

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    oh gotcha. and do you use it daily? at what doses and how do you take it?
     
  14. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Aren't all opiates, by the nature of being opiates, addictive?

    So you do mean the sapo venom? I'm confused.... All I know is hamilton did a thing called the "sapo diaries" or something, where he documented his going and being a total douchebag to tribal peoples and shamans and stuff (without meaning to, just because he's a spoiled rich kid and doesn't know any better) and they showed how they tied the toad to sticks spread eagled, poked it with sticks, scraped off the secretions, let it go, and then would burn a spot on their arm and dab venom into it? He got pretty lethargic and fucked up looking, and said it was just heavily stoning, so.... this is what you mean?

    I mean, I know there's all sorts of varying levels of withdrawl depending on the opiate, but to some degree, especially with one that potent, I would assume there will be ill-effects to great to scoff at, when quitting.

    Also, I was under the impression that bufo's also made 5-MeO-DMT, and that the entire secretion could be used raw without ill-effects? Or am I full of shit?
     
  15. p0ly

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    it's not a debate LOL i just said i don't see how people can say take this drug take that drug they're all fine when they clearly are not.

    I'm not saying weed or dissociatives are on par with opiate addiction i'm just pointing out i don't like the fact you got a bunch of people who can demonise one thing yet completely advocate other things without giving no warnings at all when there are serious consequences.

    You ever heard of or seen IV ketamine abusers? Least you don't fall to pieces and die on opiates (well obviously some do but nothing like ket :S) while you piss yourself etc like ket.

    all i'm saying is i find people who can put one thing down but advocate all this other use a bit silly.
     
  16. felix4life

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    I just use it once in a while, a pinch under the tongue.

     
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    http://www.squatjuice.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=201085

    tis all fun n games people...
     
  18. felix4life

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    Would dropping 2c-i a night after 2c-e be too much for receptors and cross tolerance?
     
  19. p0ly

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    i wouldn't recommend it unless you can stomach a much higher dose and are willing to take the body load.
     
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