Psychedelic Bump XII

BUMP! ..for some afternoon brewski's Beautiful autumn day it is!

 

Post-bump for 450mg 4-FA & 150mg of 2C-B throughout all day yesterday and listening to nothing but Pandora's Shpongle channel. I finally appreciate them as a unique talent Ans no more liken them to some odd hybrid of Ozric Tentacles, Tangerine Dream, & Buddha Bar soundtracks. Though that oddly somehow does describe them though not in a negative light. They also have a Nurse with Wound and COIL kind of feel. 4-FA makes for a more focused, speedy roll or flip and 2C-B is da shizz!

 

yeah i had 25 mg. maybe i got a tingle and a half
it was barely above threshold.

but i'm starting to kinda think that i'm not very perceptive when it comes to new substances. 4-aco-dmt, mdma, mescaline extract....they were all barely noticeable. dose has something to do with it obviously, but other people trip from 25 mg 4-aco...150 mg of mdma is a decent roll for most, and i know someone else that tripped from less of the mescaline than i ate, although he said it was mild.

then to counter my own point...12 mg of 2ce for my first dose was plenty.

i dunno, it's something i've pondered a bit.


bump for hearing a talk today that involved administration of "memantine" to mice. it's an NMDA receptor antagonist, as are ketamine and MXE. it has quite a different structure though, and it's used to tread alzheimer's! neat stuff, and since i always have psychedelics on the brain, of course i made this connection

 

Just booked a hotel for the night at the Bassnectar show. Have some 6 and 5 apb coming. Meeting new friends. This night is going to be grand!

Check out this hotel!

 

Life is good aint it?

When you say new... new to you? Or... ? I havent heard as many stories of mdma being ineffective. Mesc seems highly variable, I chalk it up to highly variable strengths of extraction but again, little science to back that up.
As for 4aco, if it was from a reliable origin, or if you've shared the same with someone and they've had substantially different experiences, I wonder too.
I think 12mg of E would be underwhelming, except for an allergy test the smallest amount I had was the first time, at ~17 and it was amazing.
Have you sampled any other 4-subbed trypt?

Sounds like good times GM ! I hope you guys have an awesome party and that it makes up for the APC roadtrip.

 

^^yeah, i mean new to me. mescaline cacti are pretty variable in their content, so even if all extractions were equal..it'd still be a crap shoot.

the 4-aco was from a legit source. sorta old maybe...but i think it was more due to 25 mg being a low dose for some. and i had been tripping pretty steadily at that time...not "classic" tolerance, but the other type of "tolerance" we talk about sometimes...

12 mg 2ce was a solid trip for me. now that i'm more accustomed to it and tripping in general, it'd be sorta underwhelming, but at the time is was perfect. you've probably seen the trip report on here.

i have 25 mg of 4-ho-mipt, that was from the same ultimate source...but the dude that gave it to me suspected that it was degraded. i'll try it one day, but haven't been that excited about it..

 

4aces at doses under 40mg is very light for me. i mean it has the potential to get heavy, but overall the experience is quite manageable, you're not floored or anything. i wouldn't say it's barely above threshhold, it's more than that, but it is light. i think it's just personal biology, the more i learn about RCs the more i see just how variable individual reactions are.

Volupta swore she felt basically nothing on 35mg until about the 4th hour in when suddenly she burst into laughter while eating food for no reason and couldn't stop laughing so hard that she couldn't finish chewing her food! it had hit her suddenly, then rolled away again after 5 minutes and she was back to just a light buzz. it's really gentle in that sense, if you wanna be whalloped by the 4aces i suggest 40mg+

i don't get strong visuals until 50mg

 

Bump for 3 etizolam pellets.

 

yeah, 4-aco-dmt is one that i'd like to try again someday, with a higher dose

 

They did have a track that made it on a Buddha Bar Cd actually and your comparisons are more accurate now than that ICP comparison you made some months ago. But yes Shpongle is in a league of their own, such incredibly psychedelic and eclectic music. Not surprising since the two main guys are pretty much pioneers of psychedelic trance music.

Raja Ram with The Infinity Project

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb-wVIFfQCU"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb-wVIFfQCU

Simon Posford with Hallucinogen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAiwaW3EeUY"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAiwaW3EeUY

 

I think I may plug my remaining 40 mgs of 4-aco dmt when I get around to it, I was under the impression that 40 mgs oral would be extremely mentally challenging. (I know that comes off weird) But if 40 mgs oral is where it just starts to get heavy than I'll definitely opt for plugging and the higher bioavailability. I found The visuals from 20 mgs 4-aco dmt plugged were pretty solid, better than my 30 mgs oral experience and I feel vindicated in thinking that now after some of these recent reports.

 

4-aco-dmt at doses below 50mg puts me in that on edge state gotten by some at sub-breakthrough doses. A lot of sikes do, I'm more mentally sound floored on 75mg than 20mg if that makes sense.

I don't recall comparing Shpongle to ICP, LOL! It was a solid day of tripped out Shpongleathon though yesterday indeed :sunny:

 

That is really odd, with Volupt. The hitting her hard part sounds shroomy, but to only last ~5 mins... just unique.
Wondering how much source might make the stuff massively different in addition to individual response. 25 of my batch is solid and not too deep, 40 is pretty powerful for an hour of the peak. Mine has been in the fridge well stored for most of the year apparently not at all degraded.

 

I say lets skip Bump XIII for superstition and go to XIV

Orison?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmW-ScmGRMA&NR=1"]Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking... - YouTube

 

:rofl:

 

I think that it's highly likely most lab's GC/MS tests for purity are fudged by the Indian and Chinese labrats cooking these RC's up.
So Volupta's response isn't too weird to me. One dose of 60mg miprocin once took four hours to hit and that one always hits at the 20 minute mark.

 

When I took 25 mgs of psilacetin mushrooms I found that to be a pretty solid trip, when I dosed 25 mgs of the powder that was kind of light.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e5g8wXE__Y&feature=related"]The Beatles - Don't Let Me Down (Live 1969) (HD) - YouTube
if the beetles took lsd, how come they never jumped off a roof? .. myth busted..

 

so adding store bought mushrooms to 25 mg 4-aco-dmt really made it stronger? smells like placebo..