Psychedelic Bump XII

Rivers:
I'm not really the fiending type... but I was really wishing I hadnt left my left overs at home

Writer:
Sounds like a hell of a night....
I think I may need to wake up my boyfreind:gorgeous:

Pork:
Actually its been since August since I tripped last.What makes it so FUCKIng annoying is I have a bunch of people telling me they are going to hook me up and then they either cant do it or drop off the face of the earth

GB:
A lot of girls I use to know.. use to call these party chat lines and then hook up. Im not a real big talker so I never tryed it.. Plus Im a girl- with plenty of T n A so I never really needed to call

Cod::biggrinjester:

Orison:
you crack me dude:smilielol5:

Okay I think that was everything

 

Probably some time next week, I'm taking 160mg DPT with 80mg DiPT intramuscularly, hopefully with no more than 90cc saline drip solution. In a second syringe I'll have prepared 40mg DPT and 20mg DiPT with absolutely no more than 30cc saline drip solution, this syringe will be for intravenous injection. Before the first plunge, which I think will be in my right thigh for the I.M., and especially before the second, the I.V. injection which I'll likely inject in the top of my left hand, I'm going to take pre-dosing precautions by inserting both needles in their respective designated blast-off spots, and where the I.V. needle is concerned, I'll make certain not to accidentally skin pop and thus I'll strike a vein knowingly by drawing a cloud of blood. I'll invariably have to work fast so that the blood in syringe two remains uncoagulated and also so that before the something like three to five minutes until what would have to be an all out hallucinogenic onslaught accompanied shortly thereafter by ego death itself from after slowly plunging the I.M. (done so so that it spreads out evenly without tearing muscle, which will have me racing the clock) I'll have just enough time to remove plunger one, push the plunger on two, and if I do my tournequette tightly, just as chaos, disorientation, partial amnesia, the fear, euphoria, and classic though quite certainly strongly intensified tryptamine waves of goose flesh, shudders, vibration, electric-type sensation, uncertainty, and bliss engulf me, I believe I'll have just enough time to pull out needle number two, drop both in my used sharps receptacle, but doubtful I'll have enough time to take the tie off my arm or put the cap on the used sharps, etc.

Okay, so I have this all basically worked out, but have some questions...
1.) Does the 80% I.M. to 20% I.V. ratio sound good, or would 85+/15+ be better overall, and if so, what amounts?
2.) Am I using too much saline in either? Too little? Just enough?
3.) Do the injection sites make sense or could I improve them?
4 ) Should I have a sitter? If so, should the sitter have a needle containing benzos?
5.) If I do an entactogen like 4-MMC or 4-FA, or a dissociative like 4-MeO-PCP the same day, if far enough apart need I adjust doses, should I dose close together, not touch any sand or k or anything (personally I could see either as easing myself into such a strong trip)?

I know it's not an exact science, and both porkstock and writer, I don't know if this is a relief or sigh over the iboga, San Pedro, HBWR, amanitas, cubensis, and yopo enhanced aya or not, but either way I've done enough reading, don't recall any in vitro tests, so in vivo it is (it would've been anyway but I have read up tons on DPT and DiPT, so I don't expect a guidebook with instructions, just opinions not of a hostile or condescending or swaying nature :juggle: :toetap05: :toetap05:

 

Super excited, just got my 25c nbome and 6apb! Planning to check out 6apb on thursday, have read some really good reviews of both. Can't wait to see what's up with both!

 

Hey cosmo, I think that combo is MUCH safer than your pan-global-huasca unfortunately I know -nothing- about injections so i'll leave it to GM/guerr to comment on your ratios. I actually think DPT+DiPT is an interesting combo, don't think I would ever do it, just because DPT alone is something I don't have the balls to do often, but I think your theory about their synergy sounds right, it could be one of the most outlandish trips of your life.

 

Cosmo, Have you IVed in that spot before on your hand?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIZaimt55rA"]Mimosa - Lullabyte [HD] - YouTube

May catch them live in November.

 

1)If you have not IM'ed DPT before I'd recommend trying that on it's own, that's a high dose you got there for IM. Read the DPT primer for injection on erowid, a person has passed out on 130 mgs IM DPT before. Dose/response curve is much higher with IM. 100 mgs IM DPT is probably roughly equivalent to ~200 mgs insuffalated.

3) The IM injection site sounds good, I think I've read you IV things before so you probably know where is a good injection site for you. I'd opt for the forearm because that's where my 'super highways' are you may not have as visible ones as me.

4) Absolutely have a sitter if you are going to try that dose, as I've mentioned people have passed out on less DPT alone than you have listed and the tacyhcardia gets pretty intense at higher doses. I've never used benzos in that manner or seen a dpt freakout so can't help you there.

5) I have combined a solid dose of methylone with DPT before, granted a much lower dose of DPT but I didn't experience any negative effects. You may feel pretty exhausted the following day that's about all I can speculate.

 

I dont know much about the rc's your talking about but I do know enough about IV. If your going to use the vein on your hand you should know that can be a hard vein to hit as it rolls all over the place. Id also skip the saline. The less liquid you have to inject the better ime

 

Gotta have the saline to dissolve the powder but yeah, That is why i was asking if that is where he normally hits. It's so easy to blow out that vein too. The crook of the arm is the best if you have good veins for it. That is where Dr's usually get me and where I have shot up at successfully.

 

Yeah, it's a slight sting I.V.ing or getting I.V. drips there, but it's easy, further from your heart and hence your brain, and easy to remove.
It takes more time to tap a vein and poking nerves is a son of a bitch, I was just thinking resting my leg sturdy in place with my hand on it all nice and calm after meditating on intent for an hour or so, that I could literally poke the I.M. needle through my thigh's dermis and between my thumb and forefinger so that I could keep the I.M. and be ready for deuce.
Then when it's time a few seconds later to finish bangin and try to relax before involuntary bodily functions occur like drooling, wetting myself, or barfing.
Now I wanna do more than muscle cuz snorting 150mg barely buzzed me, albeit at a time of higher toleramce from sprimg's craziness, yet even with no tolerance 6-7g strong cubies and I'm still functional (I swear that snorting the 75mg each 2C-I/4-AcO-DMT altered my receptors, I don't know, maybe they are wider now so PEA's, trypts, indoles, entactogens, and really entheogens as a whole when past the BBB up trying to fit in just so at MAO nerotransmitter sites like the common 5-HT2A site.
And so to take two 120ug hits of cid that'd blast ol' voyage back so far he'd be my age again and poor, dear porkstock just might meet one of his alternate selves for no longer than the blink of an eye, which on LSD means nothing so within that blink he could watch himself marry, have a gaggle of baby porkstocks--Sasha, Ann, Nicholas after that version of his employer, David Nichols, Timothy, Terrence, and of course Albert...sidenote: wtf, I know numerous female psychonauts in the pioneers' days that sadly I know none of offhand, but porkstock's multiple who's happily married raising the future of neurochem, psychopharm, etc. all the while working as Nichols' top lab assistant; all the while I'd get modest visuals and surface introspection.
So muy drogas for me to get enough to block channels x, y, and z...plus quite often if I don't take high as shit doses, a lot of chems resemble each other molecularly enough that if wider transmissiom spots are part of the issue at all, it makes sense how for me they often seem like the same, almost, at least much more than y'all purport.
I do think though, too, that my synapses fire off less MAO's, I also think my dosing atrategy with DPT was as dimb as nommim five dots over a whole night (thanks erowid!).

So I must admit, I can't help but get nervy a bit, but I think about that which is pr0ne420's wisdom: "You are the dark one, not the drug," and of course, "When in doubt, double the dose."
Especially that last one, once you've had TRUE ego death, it's the Tabula Rasa thing I've said before.
Dipping your toes causes far more bad trips even.than violent, latent shit brought out at Hr-Man and She-ra doses. No ego is confusing and alarming for a minute, but then stimuli becomes so extreme, you're forced to succumb.
As to the other statement of his, we are quite morbid as a species, and a three hour trip that feels like 300 hits of fry would take you down fear's path without succumbing.
I think this is the safest combo to go the firthest with at those doses and ROA's.

Any (constructive) thoughts? :sultan:

 

Here is part of the DPT Primer

So going by professional standards there is nothing safe about what you plan on doing especially if this is your first time with IM as well. I believe I have read a couple of individuals dosing ~200 mgs IM DPT over on BL though. I find that with DPT sometimes less is more, and I'm not talking about low doses just not heroic doses, even at ~90 mgs I started getting amnesic type effects and I felt i've gotten more out of my 60-80 mgs IM DPT trips.

If you're looking for a rush and thrill though those higher doses surely will deliver, I'll recommend to still scale that IM dose down to ~130 mgs or so, that surely will be enough with the IV dose as well. Most likely won't be in any mortal danger with the original dose though.

 

Some thoughts based off some other previous thoughts and off of comments: I've never blown a vein, but if 100 I.M. is ~200 insufflated, maybe I needn't I.V. too, plus my left hand is scarred from ripping out an I.V. drip in a hospital when I felt fine to leave while admin dicked around with insurance b.s.
So if I do any I.V., it will be closer to like 10mg DPT, 5mg DiPT, then 90mg/45mg I.M.

I was contemplating, and I'll bet this combo done this way will surely be dissociating what with every sense on hyperjetenginerocketblaster accuity. And yes, saline, sterile single use at that is far wiser than tap. I.also don't ever hit the same spot twice until fully healed again. I read and saw Requiem... plus met a one-armed junkie, I like my limbs. Where they are.

Another thing that conflicts with pr0ne420, multiple peeps describe DPT as sinister and DMT as carnivalesque, even shiney happy people...

 

cosmo, i must say, it doesn't work like that. there's no way that you altered the SIZE of your receptors. there is a gene that encodes the protein receptor, and it's got a specific size and shape to do it's job. i can't think of any way that you could have possibly altered the size of the active site, and even if you did...it likely wouldn't function at all.
it is possible that you altered the EXPRESSION of your receptors though. after over stimulating them, your body responds by producing less of them. so that's a good possibility.

also, i've taken 2 "150 ug" hits of L, and i didn't get to meet my alter self
soon enough i'll be married, raising kids, and possibly working in a scientific, psychedelic lab

 

bump for TNS showing up in my dream last night. we were tripping on 2ce in a cold stream, on our way to a silversun pickups concert. i got behind the wheel of a car too! (bad boy)

 

TNS showed up in a dream of mine a while ago (and I'm pretty sure I did tell him about this) but in my dream he ended up trading my mom for a single psilocybe cubensis and seemed to think it was a great deal. I was kind of pissed.. sounds like you had a more enjoyable dream.

I've had dreams involving lots of people from HF, though.

 

IV in the forarm is a great spot.. If you can see them well enough.

Bump for some Coked up sex
Well, on my end. Its sad some guys cant get /stay hard when on coke.
I love fucking while Im all messed up. So intense, that crazy rush... I dont care about anything else-just having fun- stripping- fucking in public -going all fucking night long with who ever catches the eye. Its been a great many years since ive been that... Young and crazy
I miss it

 

lol No, you never told me about that. At least, I don't think you did. If you did, I must've been on xanax at the time. Or drunk. lol Sounds like a funny dream though.

 

Bump for lean

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Lean, niiiiice.

I've had a dream about TNS too... I can't remember too much of it st the moment but I saved it in my dream journal as with most dreams. He was in my apartment...

 

what did he trade your mom for the mushroom? or did he trade the mushroom FOR your mom?

who else have you dreamed about?

what's lean?