Psychedelic Bump VI

Hmm, I see. I also find the 18mg level to be excellent, but I still kinda found myself wishing I had taken more. Just out of curiosity, assuming you've done higher doses, what do you find unpleasant about them?

 

^^^maybe that's my problem. i haven't done higher than ~20 mg. i find that the diff btwn 12 mg and 15 mg is quite significant. again the diff btwn 15 and 17 or 18 mg is pretty big. but from 17 mg to 20 mg isn't that much of an increase in psychedelia, and a large increase in discomfort for me. but maybe if i went up to 30 mg or something, i'd be tripping too hard to even notice my body. i suspect i would crash pretty hard from a high dose of 2ce, as well, as even moderate doses make me feel like ass when trying to sleep and the next day.

 

I agree the body effects can be unpleasant, although not to the point of being a major detriment to the trip, IME. Thanks for your insight. I think 25mg is a good amount for my next trial.

 

@porkstock: the analogy they were referring to higher up on the page.

If you have a comfy spot I'd just go to 35-50 mgs. I honestly don't think its as drastic a jump as it may seem, Just as long as you have a place to get comfy.
I dosed 52 mgs 2ce, tripped in a park and tripped for ~10 hours. My first ~20 mgs 2ce experience in a forest was about just as overwhelming but I also smoked pot on that trip.

I went from 24 mgs oral to 52 mgs oral with more or less the same amount of experience with 2ce.

 

As far as unpleasant 2ce side effects go, they are definitely still present for me but maybe masked a bit better. Being a regular ecstasy user Its become second nature to check physical effects every now and then, but I can definitely see how one could get wrapped up in the experience as to not notice.

 

That's bullshit. When I dosed 63mg, I tripped for about 10-12 hours. My "sweet spot" is 50mg though. It's wonderful. Also, the higher you dose, the more "easy", and even pleasant, the physical effects become.

 

Interesting advice! I dunno if I want to jump to 50mg just yet. But I definitely feel more confident about 25-30mg now.

As for my friend who supposedly tripped 22 hours...he has been known to exaggerate before.

 

^^^depends on when you define the trip as being Over. i find that i'm not really sober until i sleep, but it's easy to note when you start to comedown. with 2ce i usually trip for ~8 hours


i feel like everyone always confused or takes what i say about 2ce out of context. maybe i'm not good at communicating it. while tripping on 2ce, my body feel GREAT, AMAZING. just washing my hands is euphoric. it feels like i imagined ecstasy to feel like.. even the comeup isn't so bag for me as many report. i've only threw up once from 20 mg, but sometimes it doesn't even make me nauseous. the best thing i find is to lie still for the first hour.

anyways, the physical effects while TRIPPING are great. but after tripping, i get a headache, gut/intestine pain/gas. i reason that can only get worse with a higher dose, and since i'm perfectly happy with the level that 17-20 mg takes me, i don't care to increase the dose that much.

GB, i don't see how 52 mg could be not that much more intense than 24 mg, since like i said the diff btwn 12 and 20 mg is DRASTIC. but if what you say is true for me, then there's another reason not to increase dose. why waste the last of my 2ce, if a lower dose makes me trip just as well.

 

Because that's not the case at all. lol

Take 50mg, lie down on your bed with some music playing, and drift away. I have no doubt that you'll be blown away and you will kick yourself for not doing it sooner.

 

@porkstock: Its more intense but I don't think its a drastic change in intensity though, I didnt feel like I was on a different drug or some of the other things I've heard. I also had an 18 mgs rectal dose which may have prepared me better for 52 mgs.

 

you've never taken a lower dose to compare to, have you...?:sunny:

i'm sure 50 mg is a crazy intense trip, but i don't need to go there on 2ce.

 

Haha, the first time I took 2ce I took approx. 33mg of it plus around an equal dose of 4-aco-met. Though at the time I didn't have a scale, so I just made three piles and licked them up, lol. About 7 hrs. or so in, I licked another pile of the two chems, that was an amazing trip, it lasted for like 18 hrs!

 

haha I've taken lower doses. I took 15mg and tripped mildly for maybe an hour or so. I've also dosed 33mg, which was pretty intense, but nothing like 50-60mg.

My last 2ce trip, which was only 38mg, was very intense; almost too intense, but it was amazing. I credit the intensity and darkness of that trip to the fact that I had broken up with my fiance that same week and my mind was in a very shitty place. That was probably the most beneficial trip I've ever had though.

 

TNS, you'll just have to be satisfied with my high dose 2cb. i may also take some significant doses of mescaline and LSD this summer

 

I'm definitely glad you took a high dose of 2cb. It's a close second, imo, as far as 2c's are concerned. 50mg of 2ce pwns the fuck outta 45mg of 2cb though, imo.

 

Is anyone else drinking a few brews tonight?! haha

 

Nah what you drinking ?

 

Hey GB, since t7 is such a strong MAOI, do you think it would be safe to take it with the meds I take (vicodin and/or kratom, k-pin, restoril, ambien, donnatal, protonix, lisinopril, and flexeril)... I was thinking it just might be safe if I widdled my meds down to just low-dose vicodin and k-pin for a few days, I'd be most concerned with donnatal since it's belladonna alkaloids (scopolomine, atropine, and hyoscyamine) and phenobarbital. I just don't know enough about what drugs have effects on monoamine oxidase. I don't suppose you or anyone else does? Also, would 62-63mg t7 be a safe dosage you think? I've taken t2 plenty of times with my meds, though I dunno if I believe the reports of it being a MAOI or not... I thought I'd had a mild case of Serotonin Syndrome for about a week and a half around three months ago, so maybe it is? Or maybe I was just having cluster headaches and lots of body aches and severe insomnia for that time, not sure, 'cause I've also taken massive doses of it with I think miprocin and didn't have a bad reaction whatsoever... but t2, though reported to be a MAOI, most certainly is a much milder one if one at all than t7. I've been sitting on a bunch of t7 for a little over three weeks now, being dead for the rest of my life sounds like a shitty way to spend a trip.

 

@cosmoknot: I have no clue what may or may not interact negatively with 2ct7 or safe doses but I'd guess 63 mgs is safe.

 

I'm interested in how I'll react to 55mg of t7, also. I'm actually more nervous about it than I am a DMT breakthrough, just because I know some people are very sensitive to t7 and that some people trip pretty hard from 10-15mg oral. That's not gonna keep me from dosing the full 55mg though