Psychedelic Bump V

Thank for your insight. If we are talking about inducing +++/++++ states here (or is it just +++). Will 50mg of T7 be on a similar level to a 50mg miprocin trip - obviously they're different drugs but I'm referring to the strength of the trip, the psychological effects etc.

To me 50mg miprocin is a big dose, as I've said before I've no idea what a big dose and a normal dose of T7 is.
Hmm. I suppose what I'm wondering is, Mr. Writer you say miprocin will become totally different at 40mg. Will taking a 50mg dose of 2ct7 be that much more different again from trips on 2c-i or 2c-e at 25mg and 20mg respectively as is the leap from say 22mg to 40mg of 4-ho-mipt?

I'm about ready to delete this post as trying to anticipate and compare future exp with past ones is only going to colour the true exp and is pretty pointless as it stands as there's only one way to find out in the end. Buuuut I'ma ask that comparative question anyways.

 

^50 mgs of 2ct7 will be drastically different from 25 mgs 2ci and it will be appreciably different than 20 mgs 2ce.

I'm not sure if that was specifically directed towards Writer but I believe he has no experience with 2ci so I felt I should interject.

 

oh no it's totally open of course.

I just don't wanna tek too much!

Funny thought/convo the other day, it's funny how many self help books I've conspired to write when under the influence of drugs. And how many I've read whilst not under the influence

I just listened to some Schpongle that was in a playlist, A new way to say hello, and my head feels like a frisbee. I actually can't stand them to listen to, I imagine it's interesting when fucked but the music is actually not so hot in my opinion.

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ineffable mysteries is pretty good though

 

Haha, of course something like mephedrone, or MDMA, or cocaine, are better done in groups. Stimulant/social drugs they are. I can tell you've mostly done phens as well, they are definitely more social as well. But when you get into high doses of tryptamines, you'll see it makes no difference whether you're with someone or not. I prefer to be alone with tryptamines, they are far too deep and personal for any company.

Yes that scale. The inability to "get it together" is going to increase DRAMATICALLY with tryptamines as you increase dose. This is what I mean, they are far more "intense" than phens generally and while phens are awesome at sensorial and mood effects, tryptamines go straight for this particular effect called "ego death", which I'm sure you've encountered in your research. You have to abandon the idea that you will be able to hold even two atoms together on a high dose tryptamine . . . you will be completely at the mercy of the molecule.

Shpongle was made for tryptamine tripping, I swear it to you, blasphemer . Seriously though, I've never been as far out, ever, with anything, as tryptamine + shpongle. Jungle tantric cosmic madness.

 

Lol you just struck a nerve with disliking Shpongle!

Its certainly not for everyone and can be an aquired taste. I think the music is absolutely representative of psychedelia though, they have taken me on some journeys (even sober) but I do think some of the impact of their music is lost in this digital age when sampling specific songs opposed to the audio soundscapes they create when listening to their full albums.

 

Hmm, I think I understand.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh WTF Writer those keys are people!

GB:
It is perhaps an unavoidable consequence of the amount of choice we have available that we listen to our music in more and more fragmented ways.

 

Electric Cheese try this formula:

You solo+
500 or more ugs of LSD
darkened room with only candlelight
comfortable place to lay down
Sphongle on headphones
Eyes closed
Let go of everything
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= An almost guaranteed +++/++++ experience and you'll never be the same.......in a good way:2thumbsup:


As Mr.Writer said, Shpongle and LSD (tryptamines) are made for each other and if you allow it, the music can take you to some rather spectacular places

 

Sometimes I wonder about how taking drugs changes you exponentially, your thought processes etc. And how you would almost be forced to assess your current mindset as an advantageous outcome of your previous experience, otherwise you'd up shit creak without a paddle regretful. However there's no real assessment really possible as you never know how you'd be if you hadn't used.

Then I think about high dose psychedelia and it kinda puts me off.
That's purely opinion, if that. Tis mostly just a wondering.

 

I love listening to Shpongle on MDMA and most 2cx as well, it goes beyond a tryptamine/phenethylamine thing for me, its just great psychedelic music.

 

Listened to this last trip, was totally as though we were there!

http://open.spotify.com/album/7MkbjurMW1koHkLV4xvEA2

Knebworth festival 1990, Floyd, Dire Straits, Tears for Fears, Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, Genesis, Status Quo, Phil Collins!!!

Who knew.

 

^Can't help you but good luck finding a vendor.

 

www.2cemebitch.com

 

Thanks for the advice. I was leaning towards 2ce/2ci also, although as of now I only have experience with 2ce. Hopefully the rest will arrive soon so I have time to try some experiments beforehand! And maybe rewatch Fear and Loathing a few times to prepare myself...

 

Man Cheese, I'm right there with ya. I've tried really hard to like Schpongle, but I cannot stand psytrance, house, dubstep, or most any raver stuff sans some acid house, ambient, and trip hop. Like Meat Beat Manifesto, Future Sound of London, or Massive Attack all rule da skool, but at the end of the day, frankly, Schpongle just seems... kitchy, repetitive, and old hat; kinda like a new spin on something that's been done a thousand times before, but still beating a dead ol' horse all the same. In my book, they're right up there with Insane Clown Posse, Slipknot, Papa Roach, Matchbox 20, The Verve Pipe, or Counting Crows. Just ain't my thang.

The Magnetic Fields, Squarepusher, Autechre, Do Make Say Think, isan, Hot Chip, MGMT, Holy Fuck, Goldfrapp, Girl Talk, Explosions in the Sky, Four Tet, The Field, High Places, Evangelicals, Crystal Castles, Efterklang, Deerhunter, Death from Above 1979, GAL, Cerberus Shoal, Caribou, Burial, Broadcast, Boards of Canada, Black Moth Super Rainbow, Atlas Sound, Battles, Grizzly Bear, Annuals, Antarctica, Animal Collective, Panda Bear, Black Dice, Wolf Eyes, Air, Add N To (X), Acid Mothers Temple, Eltro, Fridge, Fuck Buttons, Gang Gang Dance, Jukeboxer, LCD Soundsystem, M83, Loopdrop, Magik Markers, Mahogany, Matmos, Mew, Midwest Product, The Octopus Project, The Notwist, Mouse on Mars, Mum, Ratatat, Six Organs of Admittance, Earth, Sigur Ros, Toshack Highway, or White Williams, one and all, IMO define musical psychedelia (and that's a short list of my favorites).

I don't honestly even enjoy dancing all that much, and raves are just too claustrophobic for me. Festivals are fine, but they're outdoors so you've got elbow room (as long as it's not tired old versions done anew by bands who've fizzled out long ago like Pink Floyd--I HATE The Wall, or anything post-Peter Gabriel Genesis, and ESPECIALLY as long as it's not any of that jam band crap like Phish, blech!!! Then I'm more open).

Y'all oughtta widen your musical horizons, there's just so much amazing stuff out there that ain't mainstream media bubblegum.

On top of all of that, I love spending time on ecstasy or yayo by my lonesome every bit as much as with others; but not too many others.

Hell, I don't even like Paul Oakenfold or DJ Kioki. That stuff just rubs me all the wrong ways... as I said before, though, it's a genetic thing, I can't help it!

 

my first order ever (2ce) took something like 3 months to get to me, since they ran out of stock right after i sent payment. it was worth the wait though


@electric cheese, you're not the only one who's not all that into shpongle. i've only sampled his songs though, and i agree that listening to a whole album start to finish is usually a different experience, and kinda how it was meant to be listened to.

go to grooveshark.com to build playlists, and you can make albums that you don't have (as long as you know or can search for all the songs and their order on the album)

 

I dunno about that, that seriously did rub me the wrong way just cause i'm a music snob, i'm not sure I even want to listen to your set list now lol, also track 2 on that one no longer works.

Wtf are you talking about, I dunno many of those bands, at least well enough to comment but those bolded bands are way more mainstream bubblegum than Shpongle. Animal Collective isn't 'mainstream' but they are pretty pedestrian from what i've heard as well.

 

bump for 8mg of MDPV up the left

 

You like the monkey dust?


"I wish the real world would just stop hassling me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-GgqN-JK6Y"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-GgqN-JK6Y

 

is that whats it called?? Yeah just had my first taste of mdpv. i tried steering clear due to what i read about it. But since i have very good self control i gave in to try it.

Actually not as bad as people make it seem! Its the people with bad self control that cant handle it. But with moderation its a fairly gently but euphoric stim

 

Im one of those bad self control people, I said the same thing as you during my first dose but around midnight I was going skiing in the stuff. Be careful man!