Psychedelic Bump V

Well..I drank a few beers even though its sunday night haha.. im still on spring break tho..

im feeling alright tho and been thinking about a lot of things. I been making some music as well! I can't wait for my next psychedelic experience! I guess i just wanted to say that i love you all and im thankful for you guys hear on this forum

 

Bump for what must have cumulatively been 150mg MXE and watching Irreversible in a strange dark room on a small small screen.

WEIRD, WEIRD WEIRD NIGHT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYiM7RG927U"]YouTube - Irreversible

 

care to comment on it any further? how was the social aspect of 2cb? did you take the 40 mg dose alone? i have only tripped on it with 36 mg and 44 mg with my sober fiance present and spent much of the trip by myself

 

Yay, trip party Wednesday. I've done 2c-e 16mg previously, now planning 20mg. Much of a dosage curve? Also, would 20mg be considered strong by everyone else? 16mg was like a subdued LSD at two hits. A little stronger body load that cid, not quite the sick feeling I get with trypts, but just more aching.

6 peeps total, I's stoked. Much love.

 

Word to all of that. I don't see any apologies forthcoming, I feel deserving of one, but I'll take the high road and just brush this off my shoulder (but I'm certainly not forgetting it).

Yes porkstock, it was getting silly, but in spite of my good-natured feelings toward the guilty party, I really felt justified in putting things into perspective and putting the guilty party (as I see it) in the guilty party's place. Nobody in any place, anywhere gets away with putting me down like that, and I truly hope there's no more to come. I think you and GB also deserve apologies, it's fine if you don't, all I was agreeing with was the silly nature of the guilty party's banter. It's all said and done, it's over now, and I suppose that's what's important.

Bump for Kevin Booth's amazing documentaries American Drug War: The Last White Hope and How Weed Won the West. Those films spoke my voice, they affirmed and they validated every belief I've got toward the 10th Ammendment, the war on drugs, and the decisions I take regarding my own personal intake of drugs.

A medical doctor who advocates medical marijauna in the state of California stated quite clearly my entire view, "If a person has a health condition, they should have the right to use any drug that will address their condition." I may not have quoted her verbatim, but sit and judge all you like, I took an approximate 15 year hiatus from most everything but the occasional aspirin, drank some, smoked grass every once in a while, and didn't really get into this scene until after I'd tried MDMA for the first time in my mid-twenties. I noticed that the deep and meaningful connection and conversations with my girlfriend we had while we sat on a couch most of the night at some rave a friend threw on Halloween seemed to help me immensely. I later researched and found that my PTSD was greatly aided by the use of MDMA, supplemented with pschotherapy. Well that's exactly how I pursued my life. I then ended up in my accident, eventually pursued medical marijauna, was prescribed opiates, benzodiazapines, muscle relaxers, etc. and found that these drugs really did help, not hinder, my conditions. They simply didn't own up to their horror story reputations. Some time down the road, still quite intrigued by my MDMA experience, I pursued more of it and found it helping my condition immensely. I pursued cocaine because it seems to have a calming, focusing effect for me (one that's much better than Ritalin or Adderall). This too seemed to assist my condition, and I could find both MDMA and cocaine for mere pennies so to speak. Marijauna was already doing what I wanted it to do, it was helping me forget about my troubles and helping me move on past that same girlfriend's sudden, tragic death. Eventually, after enough research, I found http://www.maps.org and soaked every bit of it in that I could. About a year and a half later to two years later, I decided that Ritualistic medicines, hallucinogenic drugs, and research chemicals--based upon all that I'd read--were going to be me life's saving grace. So my hiatus ended, I began experimenting with said substances, and I felt myself gradually becoming a more loving, understanding, and caring soul. I admit I made some mistakes along the way, but these substances nevertheless were aiding in my spiritual growth. That did/does strike me as a very important and valuable factor.

At the end of the day, of course (as Kevin Booth would point out in his films) just like all of you, I'm enjoying getting my rocks off first and foremost. But you know what? With degenerative health conditions, major psychological traumas, and a laundry list of health of conditions that sans drugs make life barely worth living, I make sound decisions, check with people like you before jumping into the lake, and I have the right to treat my conditions however I see fit. And regardless of what insulting insinuations come my way, I'm going to keep on doing just that.

I'm not going to die from some drug or combination of drugs that I may ingest. I'm just far too careful, even if it seems at times that I'm not (which I attribute largely to having done so many combinations at doses that others dare not try). I am going to die though, and I'm going to die younger than most of you. If you were me, wouldn't you too do whatever it took to bring happiness to your lives? I think that regardless of whether you would personally go as far as I do, the answer is all the same one big yes.

I used to be an expert black diamond skiier, I used to be an excellent swimmer, I used to be cycling enthusiast, I used to play soccer and baseball, I used to be a very athletic guy. The drunk driving accident I was in left my an angry cynic, full of hate towards the world, but psychedelics and entactogens have turned that perspective around to a message of love eminating from my heart. I have already stated this before, but I advocate harm reduction. I also advocate full legalization, regulation, and the necessary evil of taxation on drugs. A person should be able to go to a doctor, get a recommendation for a diabetes pill, go to the drug store, wait in line behind the guy there to get a joint and a few hits of acid, the guy in line for the diabetes pill need only show his doctor's recommendation, while the guy there for the joint and the acid need only show his identification to prove consenting age to get his drugs.

Drugs don't belong in the hands of children (as is evidenced by the this whole 2C-E tragedy), drugs don't belong at work or behind the wheel (or involved in any way with heavy machinery), some drugs by necessity should be taken with others aware that they're being take--which by the way, is the case in my case EVERY time I dose, guns don't belong in marijauna fields or coca plantations to protect crops from potential reapers. Prohibition does not work, and it never will. We the US should take a look at the modern epidemic of street meth and draw the connection between that and moonshine; two dangerous home-brewed substances taking the place of otherwise safe(r) alternatives. We the US should have also learned that profiteers like Al Capone, or in today's world, Freeway Rick Ross, are going to come out of the woodwork and speakeasies are going to be a continued reality. The CIA shouldn't be smuggling drugs into this country to feed the privatized prison industrial complex simply to legitamize slavery and keep the impoverished poor, but they do. Voices of dissent towards these sorts of atrocities need to be heard by Congress by voices like ours. All in all, tolerance is the key; and at the very core of the explosion here on Hip Forums was a lack of tolerance being demonstrated.

TNS said it just right, why can't we all just hit a bong? Props to you TNS!

 

Very fun. Very awesome social drug. Everyone else was drinking and I didn't feel that 'Aww, I wish everyone was rollin too!' feeling I get on MDMA. I was just sociable and happy and had fun. Almost grew the balls to get up on open mic and do a lil flow. I really can't rap but I have battled with my bro before. He is WAY better than me. It's so hard for me to come up with shit off the top of my head. But watching everyone else take turns and be silly was fun enough. I think I will use methylone in place of drinking from now on because I can not handle my booze. Once I start drinking, as long as there is more to drink, I will drink until I am stupid sloppy blacking out drunk. Me + Alcohol = BAD!!

On another note, I was kinda in a slump yesterday and decided to take 150+mg of MXE. About the time I was nice and cross-eyed, numb, and pretty m-tarded my mom called me up with a bunch of stupid drama. I was so fucked up I fell out of the bed, threw on clothes and shoes and bounced off the walls of the hall, making my way to the front door on a mission to kick some major ass when my BF stopped me in the kitchen and looked at me. He was like WTF DO YOU THINK YOUR GOING? YOU ARE WAYYY TOO FUCKED UP! YOUR EYES ARE ROLLING AROUND IN YOUR HEAD! So I broke down crying and fell out in the hallway while he called my mom to get the scoop. Long story short, I couldn't walk straight or fucking see straight on that much MXE but I was hellbent on whooping the fuck out of a certain someone. I felt like superman and because I couldn't feel shit I wasn't afraid of getting into a scrap. Next time, phone goes OFF! lol

 

Read what you wrote. You are saying that my trip reports about major psychedelics that are universally considered sensational, are sensational. There is also another reason why sampling my trip reports as a meter for my "analytic honesty" is bad; the same reason why I don't have 4 2C-D trip reports written, even though I've done 2C-D 4 times. It's because all four times was shit, and worthy of a psyche bump post at best. There are many trip reports I have not written, because the contents of the trip are not worth my time writing about, and are not worth being read by anyone. I write sensation trip reports when I have a sensational trip, which these sensational psychedelics tend to produce. So i would love to discuss this point further with you if you wish, but please don't go down the path of cosmoknot and become personally offended when I am not discussing you, I am only pointing out that your argument of "Chill out writer, GB has a point, you kind of are full of shit lol!" is not based on anything, beyond what I assume is a motivation to peacemake in this thread, which you are not accomplishing very well by siding with the guy who sits back and continues to insult me with impunity, while I am demonized for calling him out on it.

My post towards you might not have been pleasant but there is no interpretation of it under which it is an attack against you, only a disagreement to what you have said. And I have twice now provided logical reasons for why what you said, is stupid. I'm sorry if the word 'stupid' offends you, but that is the word that comes to mind when i read what you wrote, so you can substitute "illogical" or "silly" or any other word like that if you please.

I'm upset that I have to even explain myself in the light of GB's unprovoked hostility towards me. Meanwhile he gets to look like the good guy because all he does is sit back and let the onlookers stone me to death for muddying the waters.

Actually I pulled it out of my ass. You see, it's not important whether or not you have ever IMed 100mg DPT or not, because your posts are so rife with examples of you taking high doses and crazy combinations of drugs and not only surviving them, but functioning, posting, and overall being affected by them in a very, very different way than anyone else on this board is, that I thought my point would be obvious and a made up "DPT IM" instance would function as a generic placeholder for any number of examples from your history to illustrate this point. I now know you didn't IM DPT. That is fine dude. I'm terribly sorry I said you did. My point however, which you have agreed with many times, is that you do not trip like most people, and I know, even before your long post above, that it is because you have been medicated your entire life due to many illnesses. I am not attacking you, it was not a veiled character attack. We have been through this before cosmo. I'm sorry that I call it like it is, but regardless of why your body reacts this way to drugs (and it really is besides the point in my argument, because I'm not attacking you or saying you are a bad person for having such reactions or even bringing up the "why" at all!), it does react this way. And so my point of GB taking your assessment of x dose of molecule A over a dozen other people's assessments of it is still valid.

Not only that, but I bet you agree with me. Let me ask you cosmo, do you ever recommend dosages to people? I mean, when someone new to psychedelics asks you "hey cosmo, what dose of xyz do you take, I have some and want to trip tonight". Do you just say "568312mg and then take 50mg 2c-e!" or do you explain to them that you are a bit unique in your dosings . I want to know your answer to this, because it's all I care about. My point was about your drug metabolism, not your life history. Please stop feeling attacked every time I non-chalantly mention the very behavior which almost every post of yours is about. It's not an insult dude. Instead of saying "dude doesn't have a normal drug metabolism", I could have just quoted your last 20 bumps, right? So relax, I have no qualms with you, and I have nothing to apologize to you or porkstock about. I feel bad that you felt offended enough to write up that huge post but it truly went over my head because it doesn't apply to me at all. I think you are a good member here who posts good posts, I enjoy them, you are a unique person and I always assumed you were a strong and weathered soul from the get go, even without knowing the specifics of your life.

I think you both are trying to play peacemaker and getting drawn into it too much. The issue here is still that GB continues to shit on me and I am demonized for calling him out on it, and now in his passivity he invites other members to defend him with hastily thought out arguments which I will not back down from replying to without mincing my words.

Pork, I have a problem with your argument about my TRs. Cosmo, I mentioned your unusual drug metabolism. Neither of those are personal attacks. My only personal attack in this thread was towards GB and his attitude, for reasons I explained.

 

Writer I dont even care about the dramadelia.

You dont even know why I neg repped you, I'm not going to bother explaining here because I dont get the vibe you are attempting to seek understanding. Feel free to pm though if you want.

I called out your dpt claims about cosmoknot in a post where you were railing for your legitmacy, not even an attack on you it was pointing out your statements are not factual there. These experiences are meaningful to me and I assume to you and most everyone here, so just claiming bs incorrect dosages and ROA's on other people's behalf shows a lack of care and respect.

 

Doh. Forgot to get the date off my fo'head.

 

Yah methylone doesn't have the empathogenic effects of MDMA, I've only used it in a public setting once and I didn't think about it at the time but you are right about not wishing everyone was on it like MDMA. Even with my 2ce + mdma trip at the club I could tell many were drunk and some on bath salts maybe. I definitely felt the energy from others die down a bit in the club around 1:00 am.

Damn sounds like you were on a mission.

 

Hey Writer, I didn't anticipate this kind of response from you, so it means all the more that you explained yourself and the apology for any misgivings or hurt feelings is 100% accepted with all sincerity, even though your comment was a tad smarmy and too murky to interpret correctly, it's in the past.

Now you and GB are senior members here, so I won't pretend to know the history of all this shit that's built up between the two of you; I'm officially taking my nose out from where it doesn't belong.

Indeed I did misinterpret what you had to say, it sounded like an attack, I have to admit it was a bit smarmy, but bygones are bygones. It was simply an elusive comment you made with regards to my bizarre physiological response to drugs, that I'd agree probably has something to do with being medicated heavily for several years.

I would also have to agree with you that I'm a unique case (yes Writer, we have been through this before), of that I don't doubt one bit, and no is the answer to your question; I'd never suggest some of the dosages or ROA's or combinations to others that I've taken. In point of fact, that very day that all of this blew up, my friend I tripped with took about a quarter of what I did, that's all I really felt comfortable with giving him. I know my body, my mind, my spirit and all that, but I never know how someone else is going to react, so err on the side of caution.

Any which way this ordeal pans out between you and GB, I hope that you can work out your differences in the best of all possilbe scenerios, and if not that, I hope that a respectable level of civility is restored to this wonderful community of ours.

As for your relationship with porkstock, I can only hope that this whole mess doesn't drive a wedge between you two. I'm pretty sure you guys will figure things out, but again, I just hope for the best.

Where you and I are concerned, we're square. As I've said, I respect and like you Writer. I'm quite appreciative that you took to heart what I had to say and explained yourself; that means a lot to me so thank you. And anything I said that might have cut you to the bone, I apologize for myself. I was just feeling defensive, all the same, you made your case, I get it, and I am sorry.

 

post bump.

I had the most reckless weekend of my life. It ended up to be really fun and I was as careful as you can be while also being reckless.

First night: 40 mg of aMT and 20 mg of 4-aco-dmt about 4.5 hours into the aMT trip. The aMT trip really picked up around that time, but we already split the capsule so we decided to give it a whirl. It added a tad to it.


The next day: 60 mg of aMT on zero hours of sleep at about noon. At around 4:30 p.m., we dosed 20 mg of 2C-E. This did not make a huge difference, but the body buzz was amplified and my visual field was subtly broken up into layers.


It was a fun weekend with a lot of smiles. But, probably not the healthiest. I got a lot of sleep over the past two nights. It's a good thing I treat my body so well in all other aspects.


I want to try 60 mg of aMT by itself on a day when tolerance is not an issue.

 

^^^that break still coming up?

watched 'em both. seems like we watch the same stuff, at around the same time on the instant netfilx. do you watch it on your computer? i get mine on the Wii.

you need to check out The Green Rush - documentary about 3 different small grow ops in northern cali

i see where you're coming from. it makes sense that sensational psychedelics produce sensational results which you go on to write particularly sensational reports about, because you are after all mr WRITER. i wasn't arguing about your trip reports...i was just admitting a feeling i have after becoming familiar with your reports. i can't help but think in the back of my mind "this guy makes everything sound awesome" not to say that you are doing it on purpose or in deceit. they are good drugs and good trips. but this is part of what i get from your forum persona, don't think of it in a negative light, and was just thinking that GB might get a hint of that too, which is why he didn't wanna believe what you were saying about MXE

also, i think i am quite picky about the drugs that i like, where you and many other people aren't quite as discriminatory. and then there are people who are even less so. yeah, you don't like opiates really, or coke that much, etc etc (just examples), but i don't really like K or mdma with my limited experience. so personal preference plays into this as well.

i didn't mean for you to take offense. it wasn't a critical comment in my mind. but it usually doesn't feel critical unless it's being said about you.

to be clear, i was never mad or sad or hurt by anything in this thread. well, to be honest, i guess it hurts a touch to be called stupid by a friend, but fuck it...maybe i was being stupid, it doesn't mean i AM stupid. i have called my fiance a bitch many times in an argument, because she was being a bitch, but it doesn't mean she IS one. point is...this doesn't do shit to our friendship in my opinion. i'm just a stickler for trying to explain myself and get my point across, and so are you.

also, i wasn't really siding with GB. i told him to ease off (i could find the quote, but i don't think it's necessary at this point). i think all 4 of us have talked to much, but hey! that's what the forums are for. one last thing...i never used the phrase "full of shit" because i wasn't saying you are full of shit. i was saying to GB, how could he say that MXE isn't more potent when he hasn't tried it. neither have i so....

DONE

i addressed this sufficiently above:sunny:

 

I think you're talking to me, lol. Well, I was on a break that was over a month long before my huge 2C-E trip. After the 2C-E trip, I said I was going on a break. But, after trying MXE as my last drug before my "break," I felt differently and decided a break was not needed. The MXE experience was very positive during the peak.

Speaking of MXE, I do not think it's for me. It was pretty awesome before the come down. The come down kind of made me queezy.


If you weren't talking to me then just ignore this entire post, including the border.

 

yeah, i was talking to you. a month is hardly a break though, to me. a month is the minimum time i like to wait between trips.

 

Yay! Planning summer vacation is fun. APC is playing in Dallas so just found a vehicle to rent b/c ours suck and a hotel to stay at then to the moon!

 

who's APC?

edit: NICE!

 

YES A perfect Circle that's legit!

 

Ooh Ohh, A perfect Circle?

EDIT:
Damnit GB beat me to it

 

Here was the main DJ, doesn't begin until 2 minutes in, Pretty standard Trance and I'm usually into harder stuff but it was pleasant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3enzOwYwM4"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3enzOwYwM4