Psychedelic Bump V

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  1. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    i forgot to mention that i drew with colored chalk during my 2cb trip. then i used wet paper towels to draw with negative space

    didn't turn out impressive, but it was fun
     
  2. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    Are you serious dude? Have you ever read a bump post by cosmoknot? Ever? Like, ever? His most recent one will do, if you need a nice sample of the kinds of combos and doses the guy takes several times a week.

    :confused:

    dude injects 100mg DPT and gets bored. he doesn't have normal drug metabolism.

    And what exactly is your reasoning here? Let me try and understand.

    1. Mr.Writer [and a dozen other regulars, along with the entirety of bluelight forums] posts that 100mg MXE is amazing.

    2. Cosmo [immune to drugs] and p0ly [dissociative addict] post that 100mg is lackluster.

    Conclusion: Mr.Writer is full of shit

    nice :rolleyes:

    To be honest pork I'm slightly offended with this post. I don't like every drug I try; see my Amanita Muscaria assay, my frequent shits on opiates, and my lackluster first 2c-e experience. When I write trip reports I include all good and bad things. Are you somehow trying to phrase this so that it looks weird that I am blown away by aMT, DPT, Miprocin, etc? I think you need to think about what you are saying, lol, these are some of the most famous and historically loved psychedelics in history. my 2c-c experience i didn't "decide it was useless" later, my thoughts are clearly present in my trip report, in my opinion it is at best a delicate mixer drug, and that is my conclusion at the end of that report. I think you are the one overhyping my "overhyping" of drugs, only because you consistently underdose, and now that you've *finally* taken the kinds of doses that i take with something, oh look, you love it. I'm pretty sure you have never done aMT, DOC, and Miprocin, so why are you even commenting on the fact that I love them? Along with, as far as I know, every other person on this forum who has tried them?

    I think you're trying to play devil's advocate for GB to play peacemaker, by taking up a soft version of his "writer is full of shit" position, but really it just ends up sounding stupid dude. your only possible valid point here is we once took the same blotters and your particular hits were perhaps not as strong as my particular hits, perhaps degraded, perhaps you get way better acid normally. But to go from that, and the fact that I, as a regular poster of trip reports in a psychedelic forum, love many of the most famous psychedelics that I take, and am therefore "full of shit", is a little retarded. GB's position of course is the epitome of retarded, as he hasn't even tried the drug that I'm supposedly full of shit about.

    I can't believe I'm explaining myself like this. This is my last post on the subject, this is ridiculous.
     
  3. Voyage

    Voyage Noam Sayin

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    Now THATs a bump. :sunny: It looks like the weather is still going to be shitty next weekend but I may, may, think about trying a 4 aco dmt / 2ce mix.

    Whatdaya think TNS?
     
  4. CannbisSouL

    CannbisSouL Smoke 'till you toke. Lifetime Supporter

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    Hey Voyage, I know you didn't ask for my opinion, but I think you should do it. An overcast sky and some rain would provide a beautiful backdrop for some of the most spectacular OEV's I've gotten from a drug combo.
     
  5. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I gotta say......I side with Writer on this. He's always been one of the nicest and most respectful people on these forums and he appreciates the differences between different substances, whether they be subtle or not so subtle differences. It's easy to see the beauty in a wide variety of drugs and he shouldn't be demonized for his ability/willingness to recognize that beauty.

    Having said that.....I think all of you should just chill, Writer included. We're all friends here, somewhat, and it needs to stay that way and we should accept and appreciate our varying opinions and definitely not neg-rep eachother just because we happen do disagree with eachother.

    :grouphug:
     
  6. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I definitely think you should give it a shot. I plan on doing the same, after a solo trip with each, since I've only had one experience with 4-AcO-DMT, which was amazing, and I want to explore it a bit more on it's own, before combining.
     
  7. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    initiating chilling sequence tns :D

    4aces + bee :0 what would that be . . .

    I'd be a little more scared of 4aces + 2ce, only because 2ce is more chaotic, emotionally neutral and has more body load, and 4aces can already be very intense (though i dunno if i would say chaotic), can upset the stomach, and is extremely emotional. I think it would be a phenomenal combo still though. Overcast sky is ok as long as you're somewhere that's easy on the eyes :). Regardless, I need more of both chems!
     
  8. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    I actually got a worse body load and less euphoria with -b than I do with -e. The chaotic nature of 2ce is one of the main reasons I want to combine it with aces. The chaos and electricity, as well as the insane visuals of 2ce combined with the emotional depth of aces is very appealing to me. Should be interesting, to say the least.
     
  9. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    And yeah....you know me. lol Always the peacekeeper:tongue:
     
  10. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    like i said at first, i wasn't trying to offend. and i know you think i consistently underdose, but i believe we usually take similar doses of LSD, and i've even plenty of eighths of mushrooms. 2ce is really the only drug i've been reluctant to increase dose on and, oh, look, someone just possibly ODed on it.
    so thanks for throwing around insults and saying i sound stupid. i really wasn't trying to offend man. and i never said you were full of shit. just that you make every drug sound amazing. and you do. that's the impression that i get. maybe it's just your eloquent writing style, but even though you do fairly acknowledge all aspects of a trip, you made 2cc sound amazing (i re-read the trip report and i do see that you said it was very mild, a good sandwich drug, etc). i also re-read the 15 mg 2ce report and that one still seems sensational to me.
    and to clarify something about high doses, my 36 mg trip was just about as beautiful and intense as 44 mg. so it's not always necessary to fuckin increase dose.
     
  11. guerillabedlam

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    Cosmoknot said he insuffalated 115 mgs of dpt.

    Bump for 2ce + MDMA tonight, haven't decided doses or setting yet.
     
  12. guerillabedlam

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  13. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    guerilla, you should lighten up on writer. i don't see what he did to deserve the hostility.

    the long awaited sparkle flip. i'll suggest taking the mdma first, then the 2ce a few hours later (like the preferred way with 2cb). and i'll suggest a dose of ~18 mg or so
     
  14. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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    Nice:D What dosages for each?

    I'd actually recommend taking the 2ce first, and waiting until it starts to kick in really good, then take the molly.

    Also.....I think "razor flip" would be a better name for the combo, due to the chaotic nature of 2ce. Then again, the molly may lessen the chaos of the 2ce, so perhaps sparkle flip would be more accurate. Sparkle flip just sound fruity though. lol

    And yeah GB.....ligthen up on writer, please. All of us need to at least ATTEMPT to not hold grudges:grouphug:
     
  15. guerillabedlam

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    I decided on 20 mgs 2ce/ 225 mgs MDMA

    I think I'll dose 2ce first due to duration, probably going to a club since I've heard positive things from porkstock among others in the club enviornment and both compounds have significant music enhancement.
     
  16. cosmoknot

    cosmoknot Humboldt County Homey

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    Writer, you don't know what you're talking about, I've never muscled DPT. Where did you read that? I have never posted about such, I've only ever said that DPT doesn't effect me at the normal doses most take when insufflating it. Sure, I trip a few times a week and ingest unusual combinations of drugs, but I am all about harm reduction, and I don't ever do something without having first made sure that it's safe. In addition to that, you have not walked a mile in my shoes Writer, I have kyphosis, scoliosis, a wedge compression fracture in my t5 vertebra, slipped discs in my neck, and sundry other difficulties in my life. I am all about the here and now because I know my mortality is not one that has lasting power, I can honestly say both that I don't want to die, but I'm sincerely not afraid of it: And while I've still got life in me, I'm going to shine on, and experience everything I can. Did you know I take care of a dying 60 year old hippie who's amongst my best of friends? Doubtful.

    You read me like I'm some kind of crackerjack. I'll fill you in on a few things. I've paid my penance for some really ugly points in my life, I've survived a car accident that broke my back and took quite possibly the only true love I've ever known away from me, I've lived on the streets, I've lived in NYC lofts, I've lived in Berkeley hippie headquarters. I've probably got more life experience in my pinky finger than you do in your whole persona. You have no idea what kinds of tragedies and beauties I've lived through, do you even know what it's like to bond deeply with someone who's dying? Have you ever watched someone die that you'd take the place of if only you could? If you think for a second that I'm on a path to self-destruction, you're completely wrong about me. Sure, I posted once somewhere here that like Hunter, and like the guy I care for and trip with, I'm all about quality not quantity (with regards to life). Yes, if I were to find myself suddenly in a position in which the quality of my life became something akin to the story "Johnny Got His Gun," I'd take lead therapy. There's no shame in that.

    I'm sober more often than you probably think; to boot, I don't drink but once in a blue moon and won't touch meth. I have scruples and it's apparent that you believe I don't have any. I'm going to die young, that's a fact. I'm okay with that, I've come to terms with my own mortality. It's completely non sequitor, but if you read a TR I posted here a bit a back, I had a promising career in graphic design, I've studied art, psychology, and computer information systems. I was indeed a high school drop-out, but before I turned on, tuned in, and dropped out, I was a 3.857 GPA student on the Honor Roll in HS, I later scored through the roof on my GED/HSE tests to the point at which I ranked in the top 5 percentile in the state on some tests. I get high more than you do, so what? I'm still smart as a whip and I'm far from being crazy, and you'd know that if you knew me in person, or even via phone calls, texts, or emails. I am not damaging my brain; if certain neurotransmitters get rewired, so be it, it's happened many times in my life.

    I've molted several times and with each transformation, I have grown and become a better person even when the chips were down and I had to learn through the school of hard knocks. I've done some stupid shit, sure, but you seem to isolate that quality in me that goes for broke when it comes to getting high, which granted is likely a fault (though I don't give a fuck if it is), and you overlook any insights or jokes or pretty much anything I have to say in defference to your apparent low opinion of me. In point of fact, I've said it before but I'll say it again: Things like HPPD are gifts that keep on giving, I'd love a flashback, a free trip would sure be nice now and then (though I believe flashbacks are bogus). I chose this life on purpose, it's what works for me, and I'm a happy guy. I also am dealing daily with traumas you could never understand, and I hope you never have to face such things. I'm living my life a free man, a free spirit, and experiencing all that's good and wonderful before I die. What's wrong with that? Do you really believe I'll fly over the coo-koo's nest or wind up a madcap? I don't, but even if I do, what business is that of yours? Aside from sikes, I have a great love for traveling and communing with nature, and when all is said and done where I'm at in my life right now, I plan on treking across the country, dragging my crippled ass up mountains to swim in pristine lakes. You have no idea who I really am, and I'd thought you just might have. I am in touch with my inner piece of shit, are you? I know I'm a faulty man, but so too is every other man, woman, and child. We learn young how to spar, how to hate, and how to fight. Is that a good thing? You're almost like the fictional character in some way, Dorian Grey, it seems you know that you're a faulty person, but you won't admit it to yourself or others. Writer, we're all fragile beasts eeking through life the best we can; in my case, I prefer altered states of consciousness and especially being the sole pioneer into unknown territory (please though keep in mind that aside from here, I check up on any and all possible complications before jumping into the lake). I do this because I now know that life is fleeting in a way you can only know when faced with tragic death. If you even want to try to understand me, my perspective is to have as many beautiful experiences regardless of what their nature is before I meet my early end.

    Out of all of this, the most ironic thing is that you Writer have been a real downer on a lot of your friends here. Why so much negativity Writer? Look in the mirrror. You say GB has caught a lot of flack about this and that, you should take a look at the comments people have made about you to me. They're not kind Writer, and in spite of all this, I still respect you, your views, your quips, your general nature. But dude, get down off of that high horse of yours, because really, my consumption is safe and sane; albeit I post about things that others like hallucinations or marblegallery do ingest in the same devil-may-care way, and while not as many postings come from them, it's all the same. and to that effect, I knowingly (just as they probably do) face scrutiny from folks like you who think that dosing in the way we folks do is inscrutable. You're not a hardhead, I don't care, you live your life the way you want to, and I'll continue to do the same with regard to myself. I'm not going to put you down or criticize you for your thoughts or decisions, I just would like the respect I deserve as a human being within a tight-knit community since I'm generally a jolly guy around here--and right now that apology for the hurtful things you've said about me and some explanation without personal bias would be the kindest way for you to respond to this Writer.

    IMO you've overstepped your bounds with GB, porkstock, and me. You do not know me vis a vis, and if you did, you'd know that I'm a very loving and giving soul. I give my all to the people I care for, I won't name names, but there are people here that know that about me, recognize it, and that humbles me. Do you really consider me to be a stupid man Writer? Do you truly believe I'm on a short bus with all the 'tards', ruining my life, acting recklessly, not contributing to society, and on and on? I'M DISABLED. I.E., I WAS FORCED INTO RETIREMENT AT AGE 27.

    I'll refrain from any inflammatory comments. So is it that just because I enjoy tripping a few times a week, I must be some kind of nut job? I'll be the first to tell you I have an adequate, simple, minimalist life, I'm far from crazy, and I don't appreciate being viewed as such. You do know that you're attacking me, right? Why? I can tell you straight off that I'm not ashamed of the good and sometimes angelic times I have while I've still got H2O feeding my brain and blood, I may even choose to go out tripping, who's to say when I'm old and grey. I'm a hardhead, you're a more cautious user, but take us side by side, you likely have more to lose than me, I'm on gov't assistance, what with that whole disability thing. Now is the time for me to act, so take that into context when reading my TR's and other postings. I have a desire to leave a positive imprint of my being when I'm gone, and shit like this just really gets me down and feeling cynical all over again (a battle of the rationale I've always got going on).

    I'm sitting here with my friend who's 60 and did the same thing more or less as me. I agree with the viewpoint that Terence McKenna had with regards to sikes, don't dip your toes in the water, jump in the fucking lake.

    Getting straight to the point, Writer, why the fuck are you insulting me and my intelligence? I don't have anything against you Writer, nor GB, nor porkstock, nor... fuck, I cannot think of one human being in the world that I actually hate (I can think of one I dislike but that's unrelated). I'm all about love and giving. If you knew me, you'd know that. I would've honestly thought that you'd known that about me by now. What do you really care what I do anyway? I appreciate your sincerity here, but you're really showing your teeth and more or less dissing on me, GB, and now porkstock by way of, for lack of a better way to put it, disregarding every single thing that this entire community has responded back to you with in regards to your attack on GB, and now on me and porkstock.

    I personally think you're basically telling GB that I'm some kind of lucy-goosy whack job with no sense at all and that GB is pretty much no better off than me. I'm really fucking insulted. I truly hope you ponder your words, actions, and thoughts on this matter that you opened the doors of Pandora's Box to. I really see the good-natured, friendly spirit that you are, but this subtext of deep-seeded emotions toward those of us you seem to look down upon is hurtful. I'm easy, if you give me a sincere apology I'll take it at face value.

    I mean you no disrespect Writer (nor you GB or you porkstock) but honestly, you did post a thinly veiled attack on my character and I don't appreciate it. I do deserve an apology, and so too do porkstock and GB. You kind of berated us all today. I'm not mad, I'm not upset, but I'm disappointed in you. I thought you of all people could keep their cool even in the face of adversity; please open your heart, your mind, your soul, and quit judging us. We don't judge you, at least I don't, and I've taken notice that GB and porkstock don't either.

    You know, GB has inadvertantly expressed his respect for you, I took it that way in some conversations... the least you could do is give the guy the same respect he's given you, even if it was awkward. I mean nothing personal here, you're not an asshole in my book, you've just blown your top and gone all reactionary. Please, chill out friend. It's all good. Just accept that no two of us are alike and move on, you really can't do much more and berating me and GB until you think you've shamed us out of the community is no solution, and I'm sure you have heart enough to know that's true too.

    Namaste amigo!

     
  17. cosmoknot

    cosmoknot Humboldt County Homey

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    And I commend you for being such, you're a good potseed TNS!
     
  18. cosmoknot

    cosmoknot Humboldt County Homey

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    About to dose 25ish mg 2cb plus 30ish mg 2ci, this has been a strange, fun, sad, weird, but overall good day to be alive :)
     
  19. G0dm4ch1n3

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    Wow! Things got a bit tense in here while I was gone. Anyway, bump for looking at the moon through my telescope, catching fireflies, and being relatively sober. I am tempted to get into my stash but I really don't feel like committing myself to a full on trip. I really don't have anything that's real chill besides 2C-C but just not feelin that and not getting into my MXE anytime soon. Done way too much of it lately. So this weekend is an off weekend! Yay! Just gonna get high and sit back and relax. W00t!

    *Edit* Just got invited to a party so just capped up 180mg of Methylone. I have been taking 800mg of Piracetam a day, is that dose of Methylone ok?
     
  20. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    ^^^c'mon, off weekend!! don't give in!!

    i need not an apology from anyone, cosmo. this thing is getting a little silly.
     
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