Psychedelic Bump IV

Bump for DMT

Just a tiny taste, but wowee..

 

!!!

 

50 mg - 4-aco-dmt.


Great conversations between brothers. A cleansing experience with a view past the distractions and deep inside... like always.

 

Yeah! It really was a tiny taste, 10mg the first time, got lightheaded and immediately reloaded 15mg and hit it like I was trying to kill it... but, it definitely gave me a nice introduction. Huuuuge lovely body rush, I really liked the pace at which it came on, not like Salvia at all! Moderately distorted visual field with eyes open, CEVs consisted of thousands of translucent blue-gray ice/glass "shards" in a wreath shape with black in the center, spinning and twirling in a clockwise motion and twirling around themselves. I was surprised at how stable minded I remained. The cats started running around and fussing which irritated me a bit because I could still hear what was going on around me but I did my best to ignore it.

Intense, but definitely a "what the fuck was I so afraid of" moment. I also gave my friend 15mg, which was his first psychedelic ever(!). I can't wait to explore this further... definitely leaves me wanting more, unlike Salvia. It lived up to my expectations as far as intensity being on par with Salvia, but it's so much friendlier...

Have to get used to the smoke, it's definitely weird feeling and tasting but not too bad. Almost feels like inhaling vinegar fumes.

Definitely no reason for me to be petrified like I am of Salvia.

Whoa! Nice, I don't think I could hold a conversation on 50mg... 30mg blew me completely out of my body and beyond lol

 

That is a pretty high dose of 4-AcO-DMT. How much did your friend dose? Did he do 100mg?

What about the aMT? Did you dose too?

 

We both did 50.

Preparation will be needed for 100 mg if it is ever attempted.

I have a pretty good feel for 4-aces now (or maybe a tolerance[I will take a break soon]). The lowest for me is now 40 mg. It took a lot to be able to hold conversations. But, they are very deep conversations where nothing is held back.


The aMT trial will be planned and applied early in the day. I am excited.

 

Ok...happy tripping!

Let us know how it went.

 

First off I want to say that sounds like an amazing introduction, but that's not the dmt trip thats on par with a salvia breakthrough, that's on par with giggly and tugging salvia trip.

 

Oh for sure... I purposefully tread lightly the first time. I guess what I meant to say was, I now have first hand experience of the potential of DMT's intensity to be on par with Salvia... that sounds stupid, but I've been up for 30 hours so that's the best I got.

What surprised me the most was the strength of the body high (which I really, really, REALLY liked and so did my friend) and the visuals were sort of the afterthought. I had expected the visuals to explode in my face off the bat and have the body rush be the secondary element. But truthfully, I could have been in better condition, we were drinking a bit earlier in the night (was sober by the time we smoked) and I was already going on my 24th hour awake. All in all though, I am intensely happy that I finally manned up and I've had a gorgeous after glow the whole rest of the night. I can't believe I've been depriving myself of such an extraordinary experience for so long...

 

Bump for 4 hits of liquid acid with about 10 changa mixed with crystal dmt pipes.

 

Decided today i prefer 4-AcO-DMT to LSD.

 

Very interesting...

 

Wow...that is a wild statement!

I still have a hard time imagine any substance that can compete with the beauty of LSD.

It feels so clean compared to other substances. But each to his own


4-AcO-DMT is also a beauty, no doubt about that.

 

LSD is a much better party drug but for actual psychedelic experience 4-AcO-DMT is better IMO.

I find 4-AcO-DMT surprises me a lot more where as LSD seems to be the same sort of trip most times.

 

Ehhhh Set and setting plays a big role. I went to Tool on 30 mgs of 4-ac0 dmt which I found more recreational then when ive taken LSD out at a party. I don't think I would have liked 4-ac0 at the party I took acid at either tho. Wiki lists doses today commonly at 25-80 ugs per hit of LSD today. I don't know how accurate that is but I'm sure its a bit more accurate than people claiming 250 ugs in a hit.

I'd say every 10 mgs of 4-ac0 dmt compares with a 100 ugs based on what I hear on here about, 4-ac0 may not have quite the dose/response from 10-20 mgs but ive read people having strong trips in that dose range. That means one would need to gobble 6 hits to get a standard LSD trip from the 1960's Pretty much have to gobble a 10 strip all at once in a good setting for a entheogenic LSD experience today. I think the way LSD is dosed today, or perhapas how much it costs now is giving some people a 'distorted' view of how powerful that compound is. I dunno, perhaps I need more 4-ac0 dmt experience though.

 

100mg 4aces . . . jesus christ lol

4aces is much more "cosmic" than lsd, but they are such different trips. lsd is so unique in how deep it takes you yet keeping you sharp-ish and focused and aware . . . 4aces is like the experiential substance that makes up an orgasm, a birth, and a death, begins to ooze and sweat and bleed and drip out of every electron and wave trough of energy in the universe. not too far from DPT.

 

I am really looking forward to the warmer weather (by that I mean highs in the 50s F instead of 30s F) so I can go out of my apartment next time I take my medicine. I'll look out for a day in the extended forecast and plan ahead, since, as I told you all before, I take a serotonin ANTAGONIST, so I have to give it two days to clear.

 

I just had my first experience with 4 aco last night and... only 15 mg but I almost have to agree. I was amazed at how fast it came up, how smooth and clean it felt, absolutely no nausea. The only thing I experienced that I didnt like was feeling cold, but I felt the same on 2C-E

The biggest thing about my trip was wishing I could go out and explore. It was cold and rainy last night which was cool in its own way, but felt 'trapped' inside. Can't wait for summer.

I'm glad it was a positive trip. I can't imagine 50, but I for sure want to work up from the 15 I had.
I had a friend call at the tail end of my peak. We had an amazing conversation as well. After the normal greetings, she said "are you on drugs" to which I replied "do I sound like im on drugs?" She's one of the few that knows about my recent foray back into psychedelics. I've known her for years but we've recently spent a bit of time together, she's the only one I know that I can enjoy great conversation and debate with and actually challenges me. But I've always found her on the 'intense' side... Our conversation was amazingly deep and connected, and I had this big insight about her. She said once in reference to talking about psychedelics in the context of a weekend camping trip, "who needs drugs?" And last night talking and feeling blown away by some of the stuff we talked about, I said, 'this is how you think all the time isnt it?' I just grasped the connection between why she always seems so intense, and her thought processes.
I'm going to have to chew on that stuff for a few days to even integrate it.

But, I digress. I'm glad your trip was good with your bro and that he backed down from downing the whole 100. That still seems way epic but thats from my conservative perspective.

Thanks for that. I wanted to post asking how people feel L and 4 aco dmt compares. For me, I thought it was very similar to past (80's) experiences I had though lower intensity. It feels that something in the 25-30 range might be nearly the same.

 

4-AcO-DMT leaves me able to sleep really nicely where as LSD drags and i feel a bit burnt out after 12+ hours and feel annoying and wirey til i can finally drop if to sleep (if i am lucky enough to)

I prefer the 4-AcO-DMT visuals on average but i've seen better on high dose LSD, doesn't come too often though.

 

Ya, I hear ya. Something I liked, was that I was ready to sleep after 8 hrs and slept good. I remember on the way down wishing that it lasted longer but that can be good or bad, depending. I found myself wondering about the potential of bumping, if that would increase the length and if that would change the quality.
I like the idea of the lesser time commitment.