Psychedelic Bump IV

10-20mg [of the HCl salt] and i can go about my day, be in public, would have no problem talking to the police even [aside from dilated pupils]. 25mg i can pretty much function, 27mg and i could hold some composure, but couldn't quite operate my scale [it wouldn't sit still]. 30mg is where it starts to get RIDICULOUS, and into the serious psychedelic realm [STRONG +++ for me], 40mg was one of the best trips of my life...i was dissolving into the music

you seemed to still have a mild trip on 30, so i'd say go at least 40, because i have a fairly light tolerance [i'd guess 40mg would do to you what 27-30mg would do to me]. according to some friends 40mg really is much easier for most people to handle than 3 hits of average LSD


...shit, i know people who have been telling me that i need to do at least 75mg.

75fuckingMG?!? maybe some day

 

i did have a mild trip on 30 mg, but it was the day after an LSD trip (after not having L for a few years). so maybe in comparison...plus i was a little burnt out. it was at a festival in the woods by a waterfall. if it was the same batch i'd go for 40 mg for sure, but since it could possibly be stronger, i'll start with 36 mg

GB, writer didn't convince me to take it solo. i did ask him some questions about it, and he recommended (since i only had one dose) to take it when i was alone, go somewhere in nature with music. this was maybe after he already knew i wasn't gonna take a brand new substance in public. well i took it around my fiance and sober buddy (besides cannabis). i did go for a walk by myself in the park with my headphones.
even just a couple years ago, when i had already tripped on L and mush several times, i NEVER thought i'd do mdma. i think i definitely fell for some of the propaganda on that one. for now, it is something that i won't seek out, but if the opportunity arises, i would be open to taking it in a more interesting setting with my wife (by the time i do it)

 

Bump for some of the delicious cannabis cookies I baked yesterday...yummy!

 

That was my first scale. It's a piece of shit, lol - sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I always hated that dip in the platform too. I always just parachuted with a 1/4 square of toilet paper tared out. Weigh it, fold it into a little morsel and swallow as is. For capsules, I used the torn off edge of a small cardboard box (V-shaped) tared out and then carefully poured the powder down middle of the "V" into the cap. It's not at all accurate under 10mg and within 6 months of moderate use it just refused to zero out any longer even after a battery change.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012TDNAM/ref=oss_product"]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012TDNAM/ref=oss_product

This is what I bought to replace it. I haven't used it yet but it's supposed to be more accurate/durable and it at least comes with the little measuring tray and way better tweezers. Though, ~$20 for the one you have is not a bad price for the 6 months it will actually function properly. You'll at least get some use out of it and it's not like you blew a fortune.

 

It sounds like we have similar reactions, but I've also gotten a lot of negative reactions on top of it. I've taken MDMA 6-8 times at 150-250mg. I know my batch is legit and I've dosed friends who say it's fire. I'm still giving it the benefit of the doubt and going to keep trying until I use it up or until I finally have that breakthrough experience, whichever comes first. I know that set and setting/co-rollers were a big factor in my previous lackluster experiences so I'm hopeful for my next trial. I'll be taking 200mg at the end of the month at a Flogging Molly show (I get emotional/euphoric sober at their shows!), and I'll be with my bf and 1 or 2 of my dearest friends (though none will be participating but probably alcohol). If that doesn't set me over the edge then I will write MDMA off as just not a good fit for me, but I'm certain this S+S and company will be infinitely better than my previous trials. I feel it in my heart that this will be the magical time...

 

Thanks. Everyone's been tellin me how much of a pos that scale is lol. It was the only one on ebay at the time that wasn't coming from china and was less than 100 bucks. I did notice that it doesn't pick up anything less than 8mg or so. Good thing I don't need to weigh anything up less than that right now but I will when or if I decide to give any nbomes a try.

 

Yeah, I think I will just go with water measurements for NBOMe's when I get around to them. I don't think I will ever be able to afford a scale to weigh individual doses safely

Like I said though, you'll get a good few months out of it before it starts acting completely retarded. $20ish for a semi-disposable scale that gets the job done in a pinch is not bad. Why didn't you want to order from China?

 

I never really said much to you in regards to lackluster MDMA experiences because I knew you were fairly experienced with methylone and when researching methylone I found an overview of persons use where he didn't respond the same to MDMA so I thought there may be some sort of cross diminishing returns cross tolerance. Having not seen any official studies done on this, I recognized it as a possibility for you too. I get terrible negative hangovers from MDMA so don't think you're alone there, you get more like anxiety or something if I recall? Anyways 200 mgs at Flogging Molly sounds amazing and a little bit of caffiene goes a long way

Edit: I just saw you take 5-htp daily in another thread, possibly that has an effect too on a roll, What does 5-htp do for you?

 

Didn't feel like waiting 2 weeks lol. I guess my impatience paid off. O well.

 

Yeah, I have definitely considered this although haven't come across anyone reporting a similar experience. Do you have a link?

In all honesty, the 2nd time I tried methylone (160mg IIRC) was THE BEST!!! feeling of my entire life, still remains pretty far up there as far as pure euphoria and just fuckin' grooving goes. I did a 75mg bump a few hours later and it was still great. It was all downhill after that. That first anxiety pang I got the very next time I tried it was the absolute worst feeling I ever experienced, sober or intoxicated. I would be "rolling" hard and going up, up, up until I almost couldn't stand it then BAM, I would get this intense pang of anxiety where every nerve of my body stood raw on end, I literally felt a panic attack coming on, vision would go red and blurry, feeling like a fire alarm going off inside my head and I would be overwhelmed with this crippling feeling of despair and hopelessness like I never felt before. It was never triggered by anything in particular, it would just immediately follow a high point, or spike as I referred to them because it spiked drastically up and down, it wasn't a smooth "roll"

I also think trying methylone before MDMA was a mistake but it was just how the cards were dealt. I think the methylone blew open some synapses that MDMA follows chemically, although the highs and lows are not nearly as intense on MDMA.

ETA: 5-htp makes my head feel a little more balanced, takes the edge off my depression and BS, helps me focus, etc... I didn't start taking the 5-htp until after my last MDMA experience, so that will be another factor in how my next roll feels.

 

Lol says you, I'll admit molly is more bearable but Ecstasy can be a fucking nightmare of a comedown though and its distinctly MDMA driven, not really anything to do with the adulterants. Like loosing a pet hamster.

I also added my previous post and noticed that you take 5ht daily, possibly has a role. Plus I'm generally curious what that does for you? I know people who take it for comedowns.

 

http://www.methylone.com/experiences/index.html

Here is the methylone link.

 

Hmm, that was an interesting read. I didn't find many similarities to my situation, possibly being that I may have consumed a grand total of 2.5g of methylone over 3 months and that's being generous with the estimate.

One thing that struck me was:

Now that I think of it, that was one trigger for the pangs. Similarly, I would get one after sharing something personal that felt REALLY good to get out, but the moment the last word left my lips it was like "OH GOD, why did I just say that..."

So you see, these anxiety pangs were caused by petty little things, and more often, nothing at all.

In my 6-8 times with MDMA I have not crashed or had a comedown whatsoever. Just a sudden moment of sobriety that fizzled out into feeling a little "tired but wired" but otherwise normal. Perhaps because I never reached that high in the first place, so I don't have far to fall?

Oh yeah, and I ETA'd up there to tell you about the 5-HTP

 

I got the 5-htp response thanks.

I dunno about the MDMA comedown, consider yourself lucky. Staying up all night dancing may add to some feeling drained come morning, but I feel it even chillin.

Did you take methylone around sxe or do it with others on it as well?

 

For some reason I also don't have really bad hangover, comedown or crash from MDMA. Even after consuming quite a bit in one night.

 

you're lucky man. mdma gives me a hell of a crash. i'll feel extra depressed for like a week and in total zombie mode the day after

 

OMFG... My friend that I tripped with last weekend went and told all his friends and everyone he works with that I can get shit and now they are all hounding me to buy shit. I sat him down and specifically told him that I DO NOT want ANY of his friends to know what I get and that I AM NOT a fucking drug dealer and I WILL NOT sell shit to his friends. I am so fucking pissed right now I could kill him. Never again will I share my shit with him. Stupid fucking asshole. GOD!!!

 

Hey, it may be annoying, but you can easily turn people you don't know down/deny that you are a drug dealer/vendor, because you're not.

As well as that, you've weeded out yet another person you can't trust with important thing.

 

I told them that I didn't know wtf they were talking about and that he is fucking retarded and just saying shit. It just burns my ass so bad that I gave him a talkin to about that shit and he went ahead and did it. Shows me how much he cares about our friendship.

 

that sucks, godmachine.


i experienced no crash or depressed feelings at all after my one mdma use. i've felt bummed out after coming down from LSD though.