If you mean that peyote and other substance that can be considered "psychedelic" pre-dated the surrealist movement, that is true, but they were not called psychedelic drugs, the label "psychedelic" came along after the surrealist movement. If you will read again, we are talking about the labels of art. If you knew what I meant, why did you waste hipforums bandwidth with useless posts that contribute nothing other than to your need for derision?
i make psychedelic art, but i can't possibly do it while i'm on psychedelics. however, i find that almost all of my art is leaning towards abstract or impressionist or surreal rather than very real. so as an artist that has done psychs i find it nearly impossible to distinguish between my pieces as a product of a trip or art as a product of my sober experience. but i do most of my art while i'm sober or drinking, not high usually.
i find this thread kind of narrow minded. i do take psychedelics, but i strongly disagree that they're required to make psychedelic art. in my opinion surreal art is the most psychedelic and i have been creating that since before i knew what lsd was. i grew up listening to floyd, beatles, and grateful dead, all of them are very talented, i've loved them since i was a wee lad. countless people listen to floyd because its beautiful and another countless amount listen because it blows their mind when they're fried haha. if it makes people happy then it doesn't matter whether or not they're on drugs.
I very much enjoy music that was inspired by psychedelic drug use, as well as art, but I don't do drugs myself. I used to do them long ago, so I can appreciate that level of relating to art from a similar place of how it may have been created, but I don't think it's necessary. In fact, my opinion with music is that it has to be good while you're completely straight, or else it just isn't all that IMHO. If you have to be stoned or tripping to enjoy it, maybe it's really not as great as you might think? Then again, I'm sure that all the art and music I love was not created just because the people happened to be stoned somehow while creating it. I'm sure there are many people who have created psychedelic art and music who have never done drugs. It's just not a pre-requisite in my book. If I were to show you some of the art I've done, you'd think it was some of the most psychedelic and surreal stuff you've ever seen, and none of it was created under the influence of anything.
show us? i agree with what you said about music. the music i love while tripping, is the music i love when sober. i'll occasionally listen to something outta my element while i'm tripping, but usually i just find a deeper appreciation for songs i already liked. or songs i still like after i've come down from tripping. i wasn't aware "psychedelic art" was such a stringent term. it's in the eye of the beholder, no? if the aztecs tripped on mushrooms and made awesome looking artwork inspired by those visions, is that not psychedelic art?