Prove to me the existence of God is a lie!!!

THEMAX- dont worry, those who understood, good for them, big step forward, - those who still confused.. time will come. see he himself even can not explain anythgin on this topc the only answer is " yes he exists"....
I AM sure that every person has this feeling that triggered people to overlook their beleives back then and still does today. In Dark Ages 99 % of europe believed and went at once to churches on Sundays. Now NOT as MUCH... progress is ongoing. The sense will come to middle east of course, i give TWO generations, this( war) second, more modernized, more developed and intellegent and their kids will be normal global citizens as the rest of developed world.

 

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Portal guy- don't worry, those who understood, good for them, big step forward, - those who still confused.. time will come. see they themselves even can not explain anything on this topic the only answer is " no he doesn't exist no one knows "....
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I AM sure that every person has this feeling that triggered people to overlook their believes back then and still does today. In Dark Ages 99 % of Europe believed and went at once to churches on Sundays. Now NOT as MUCH... progress is ongoing. The sense will come to the East of course, Not sure when but it seems to be soon, , more modernized, more developed and intelligent and their kids will be normal global citizens as the rest of developed world. you know many rubbish are there, crimes, s*x, pedophiles, porn, diseases, wars, violence even in their movies and countries, crazy and empty life etc etc ​

* Peace and love* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

i will add (hopefully) just this: every reavealer of organized belief was driven by the real need to encourage people to WANT to avoid causing suffering and harm. and every last one of them has been used as an excuse for denying the mechanism by which suffering and harm are caused. AND capable of being prevented. the connection between priorities and probabilities. which has more to do then belief with what we individualy experience in our every day lives.

neither proving nor disproving that big, friendly and nontangable, may also exist.

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Your own conclusion which is based on no evidence ​

* Peace and love* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

what and/or which conclusion would you be refering to?
there is certainly no evidence that any flavour of fanatacism has the slightest idea what it is talking about.

some that something might exist, but none that anyone knows anything about it other then it's not having destroyed us would seem to suggest it's not intending to.

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I was commenting on post#106
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* Peace and love*
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Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

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Actually I read many true stories, people can have an experience which proves His existence, And those who experienc such things I think most of them do already believe in His existence or are sincerely and seriously looking for an answer. ​

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Jeremiah 33:3 'Call to me and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.​

This is very true, just give it a real sincere chance , a chance from your deep ​

Some people called him while they are prostrating, it gives good results , As I said I read true stories but unless your heart is prostrating your prostrating and call is meaningless​

Best wishes =)​

* Peace and love* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

I wasn't kidding...

 

I didn't say so, but your words reminded me of some true stories , and so I wrote that post =) ​

I want to add to this post:​

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(Take My Hand, Precious Lord) Words by Thomas A. Dorsey​

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Precious Lord, take my hand,​

Lead me on, let me stand,​

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I am tired, I am weak, I am worn;​

Through the storm, through the night,​

Lead me on to the light:​

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Take my hand, Precious Lord, ​

Lead me home​

When my way grows drear,​

Precious Lord, linger near,​

When my life is almost gone,​

Hear my cry, hear my call,​

Hold my hand lest I fall:​

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Take my hand, Precious Lord, ​

Lead me home​

When the darkness appears​

And the night draws near, ​

And the day is past and gone,​

At the river I stand,​

Guide my feet, hold my hand:​

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Take my hand, Precious Lord, ​

Lead me home​

My deepest sincere best wishes to every seeker and whoever needs a help, peace and love be with you in every step, Amen​

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* Peace and love* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

From a Christian:​

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* Peace and love* ​

Yours Sincerely,​

Cat Stevens​

 

Time heals and changes....

 

your not suggesting we speculate on something completely hypothetical are you?.....

 

Prove to me the existence of Portugal is a lie!!!!!!

 

cat and the firing squad:

"calling for an explaination" and calling for us to assume our speculations to BE an explanation are two very different things. nor does "caling for" imply that one is of neccessity forthcomming. yes that explains perhapse why people are emotionaly attatched to wanting one, but it doesn't make anything anyone has ever believed have to be or not be the case. it doesn't make anything have to be anything.

your example suggests some slight familiarity with the circumstances surrounding the martyrdom of the bab. (although as i understand it the firing squad was somewhat larger then ten)

(in which instance the explaination was that he hadn't finnished writing his letter to baha'u'llah!)

yes there are rivers of light. my argument is with the adamant insistence of human assumptions about them.

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either get into it, put up vit it, or try to get away. Itz hell with all the deamondz, called females.

 

Just make you realise what a stupid proposition the question is.
We are being asked to prove that god does not exist.
Here is the logical synopsis of trying to prove a negative theory.
let us imagine that there may or may not be a thimble hidden in a house
... I say "there isnt a thimble anywhere in this house"
... you say "I believe there is one"
... we search for 10 years looking everywhere and we still dont find it
... You may still assert your belief that one exists
... we could search for a thousand years and not find one
... the evidence supports me, yet you pathetically insist that we keep
... looking
... no amount of my evidence will convince you
... there may actually be a thimble, but we just didnt find it

That is why scientists and philosophers and mathematicians argue that the burden of proof is with those asserting a positive claim, not with those asserting a negative claim
All religion has to do is to show us that god exists and that will clear up the matter. If you show me the proof, and it is undeniable and conclusive proof then I cannot argue the matter that is all it takes
The weight of evidence is always with the skeptic until proven otherwise
religions have been given 1000's of years and the game is
over for religion - prove it - or stop causing so much misery and war in the world

I might just add , you argument is
OWNED !!!!

 

thank you....lol

 

also i think i explain how rediculous the assumpiton was in a prior posts about a puzzle or something....

 

Ten points for Columbo!!! He just hit the Jackpot. You can't prove a negotive abstact theory. It just doesn't work that way! I was waiting for someone to point that out as I was reading through the thread. This is a LONG damn thread!!! I didn't read it all word for word - but I read most of it. Most of what I saw was about religion vs. morality or religious beliefs concerning God vs. a disbelief in God.

Proving that God doesn't exist is impossible!! Proving that God does exist may be just as impossible!! For the sake of simplicity I am not considering religion - just God - the creator. By whatever name or manifestation you choose; whether you believe in a creator or not - just consider the following:

Without a creator of some sort there would be nothing. Nothing would have been created so there would be a dark, cold, void of nothingness. No energy, no particles of space dust - nothing. No demensions, no time - just an infinitly large eternity of nothing. That's really dismal isn't it?