Prove to me the existence of God is a lie!!!

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Portalguy, Aug 25, 2006.

  1. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Come back as 'Agent Smith'

    Then i always think of Hugo Weaving....lol
    Best role he ever played.


    Occam
     
  2. Artemysa

    Artemysa Member

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    So you prove to me the existence of elfs is a lie. Can you?

    (I'm not aheist, but I think your argue is pretty poor)
     
  3. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    And the inability to prove something does not make it unreal.

    Especially when there is indicative evidence.

    There is such for direction.
    once again..the idea of a god that IS NOT OF RELIGION holds some validity.

    Athiesm is a lie. A position held witout logic.. a desired position.
    To prove athiesm..one would need to be a god...lol

    Occam
     
  4. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Dont steal that.. im copywriting it..

    "To prove athiesm..one would need to be a god"


    Occam
     
  5. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Yes..
    Please point out what u dont get.. occam will eloborate.

    Occam
     
  6. BeaverKoffi

    BeaverKoffi Member

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    Atheism is not a group of peopel or kind of peopel that word atheism is used to decribe. Atheism is not like angry, in love, tired, exhausted. Atheism is a make up of a mind that understood that theres no GOD, and you have to deal wit hit and move on. its jsut a page in history of peoples progression.
     
  7. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Hi everybody :)
    vactom
    So, who created the universe or this planet or whateva? how everything started? what was the first being, object or whateva, and how did it come into existence?
    As for who created God here is my answer:
    links on God's existence
    All the Best :)
    *Peace and love*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  8. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Some quotes
    *Peace and love*
    Yours Sincerely,

    Cat Stevens
     
  9. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Yes..
    exactly

    What was there before the big bang...
    Occam suggests an infinite duration of events
    Our understanding is only limmited by our conceptual horizons

    Occam
     
  10. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    More quotes
    Allah stated in Qur'aan[His last Book][057:003]He is the First (nothing is before Him)

    *:) Peace and love[​IMG]*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  11. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    metaphyscs.....

    dont waste your time
     
  12. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Hi Occam :)
    How do these events exist, who was controlling it, ordering it or guiding it =) to reach and achieve a goal , who was guiding, directing and leading all these process, who was thinking and planning?
    More links
    Allah is there
    *:) Peace and love[​IMG]*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  13. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    the big bang is a theory.....noone has said that it DID happen.....
    and if it did....like alot of natural events in the univurse we live in today planning processing and thought is not necessary....

    i do not agree with atheism....but the fact that being a member of a religion such as christianity implies that god DOES exist would make you a hypocrite

    and to suggest that god or a godlike concept is nothing more than a posibility would make you agnostic.....and/or.....accept that the bible is either half wrong or complete fiction
     
  14. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Hi heeh2 :)
    yeah
    I differ with ya here, I believe that Allah is guiding, controling, leading these processes =) He is Intelligent.
    So, does that mean that you belive in God's existence
    BTW isn't me who wrote what you quoted (I'm talking about the second quote) , plus I'm not Christian if anyone thinks so.

    *:) Peace and love[​IMG]*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  15. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Hi brother Portalguy =)
    Very funny [​IMG] I like it, I did read it several times.[​IMG]
    *:) Peace and love[​IMG]*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  16. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    On the Road to find out
    CatStevens
    Well I left my happy home to see what I could find out
    I left my folk and friends with the aim to clear my mind out
    Well I hit the rowdy road and many kinds I met there
    Many stories told me of the way to get there
    So on and on I go, the seconds tick the time out
    There's so much left to know, and I'm on the road to findout

    Well in the end I'll know, but on the way I wonder
    Through descending snow, and through the frost and thunder

    I listen to the wind come howl, telling me I have to hurry
    I listen to the robin's song saying not to worry

    So on and on I go, the seconds tick the time out
    There's so much left to know, and I'm on the road to findout

    Then I found myself alone, hopin' someone would miss me


    But sometimes you have to moan when nothing seems to suit ya
    But nevertheless you know you're locked towards the future

    So on and on you go, the seconds tick the time out
    There's so much left to know, and I'm on the road to findout

    Then I found my head one day when I wasn't even trying
    And here I have to say, 'cause there is no use in lying, lying

    Yes the answer lies within, so why not take a look now?
    Kick out the devil's sin, pick up, pick up a good book now
    [​IMG]
    yeah pick up a good book now =)
    Here are some
    (1)
    (2)
    (3)
    (4)
    My deepest sincere best wishes
    *[​IMG] Peace and love[​IMG]*
    Yours Sincerely,

    Cat Stevens
     
  17. Mary Poppins

    Mary Poppins Member

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    I would have thought that the burden of proof lay squarely on the shoulders of those who allege God is out there/up there?
     
  18. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    :p
    John:
    once my friend's brother Tom was admitted to the hospital and he conceived and gave birth to a baby: guess, is the baby a girl or a boy? ​
    Mike:
    It is an absurd statement. Only females can conceive and give birth to a baby. It is impossible for Tom, who is a male, to conceive and give a birth to a child. One of the qualities and characteristics of a male is that he cannot conceive and give birth to a child. ​
    John:
    Similarly one of the characteristics of Allah is that He is uncreated and does not have a beginning. Therefore asking a question, "Who created the uncreated?" is as absurd as asking, "My brother Tom conceived and gave birth to a child, is the child a girl or a boy?"​
    BTW: I didn't write that.
    Allah is unique and Perfect =)

    *[​IMG] Peace and love[​IMG]*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  19. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Mary Poppins
    yeah =) and they already as they think proved that =) and still doing and trying to do so =) the same thing goes to those who allege God isn't out /up there =)
    *[​IMG] Peace and love[​IMG]*


    Yours Sincerely,

    Cat Stevens
     
  20. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Artemysa
    Did brother portalguy deny their existence, did ya dude?:confused:
    I don't think so
    the same thing goes to those who allege God isn't out /up there =)
    *[​IMG] Peace and love[​IMG]*

    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     

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