Prove to me the existence of God is a lie!!!

All u say is from the bible

would u like occam to quote winnie the pooh...

Its just as valid.

Speak YOUR THOUGHTS or SHUTUP

Occam does not need purile quotes from a book of dogma. He has heard them all

Occam

 

your quote was from the Bible. you asked if it was the morally correct path. i responded to you quote from the Bible by putting it in context with the rest of the Bible.

 

these are my thoughts. i happen to agree with what the Bible says. if that's not acceptable to you then we can end the conversation.

 

Occam quoted thus to show the IMMORAL fundament of the bible.. a book of CONTROL.
And u reply with what...a quote from the bible to support the correctness
of the bible.
WHAT..the bible is correct cause the bible says it is correct?....HAHAHAHA

JESUS CHRIST would say...

well.. occam can just imagine what he would say.
If jesus knew what had been done in hisname in 2000 years..he would
never stop throwing up.
And the very first thing he might do.. is throw the bible in a fire
THAT..would be a morally correct action.


Occam

 

cool.. you can agree..but you cannot prove. what a bummer...lol
Many once agreed the world was flat
That humans could never fly.
that none could goto space.

look what happened

The bible 'says' nothing... it is a book of parables.. with a horror story called the old testamant nailed ot the front...lol

occam

 

And in the final sumation...god may exist.. and none can show he does not.

But for the christian god to exist[or ANY GOD imagined by our feeble minds]... would be a befouling of all that is natural and true.

Occam

 

I would wager heavily that you are right, and none can disprove God's existance. Still, it is not impossible that someone could have that ability, as implausible as it may be. I was once offered the theory that the Christian God, if he does exist, might be the deceiver who fools most everyone (as told in the Bible, the evil one is disguised as a being of light). Of course, we are both agreed that our very limited, flawed, biased, and over-confident minds cannot possibly imagine anything close to what God might be. All that is natural and true is far too solid a thing to actually be befouled, but I get your point. The portrayal is certainly not a complimentary one, and though it may besmirch and deride, it only does so in the minds of the willing. It leaves me indifferent, except to recall that an insult from a fool is a compliment.

 

corporate religion is helped along by the fact that most 'believers' do not employ logic or critical thinking skills..actually...thats why theyre believers in the first place......

logically from this kind of standpoint, ei:religion vs logic/science you cannot convince someone of anything.....

but if they had any logical scince of their own.....

you wouldnt need to

 

A man with a cartoon character in his profile just called me simple? BTW Way to skip ahead and selectively read something. Then refer to yourself in the third person. You cats are touchy. Try to joke around in the atheist room and everybody gets uptight.

 

Ive never understood why so many people take the bible so easily, ive read most of it and it contains contradictions and doublets which don't tell the same story, mostly in the OT. Such thing are easy to spot and have been for centuries and indeed only in the past 200 years or so have authors writing about such facts not been chased down by the Catholic church. Which raises a very important question of authorship. If I read Oliver Twist it takes nothing away form the story if you dont know it was written by Charles Dickens, you can think it was someone else and it will not change the story and probably not the opinion of the reader. Now if I read a book on Physics wirtten by Sigmund Freud I will probably treat it with less respect than a book wirtten by Albert Einstein with the opposite being true for Psychology.

My point being that in a book that proportes to be non-fiction or educating in some way the author is all important. After all if your attempting to learn a subject you may not be at a level to tell whether or not the information is true so all you can do is examine the repuation and experience of the author in that field. Why then are people able to so easily base their entire belief on a book that no one really knos who wrote most of it and there arent even good candidates for some of it.

 

what contradictions? i'm just curious because I don't know of any.

i agree that author is all important. The Bible claims to be the Word of God. Does anyone know more about anything than an all-knowing God who created the universe.

 

We actually know quite a bit about the men who penned the Bible. I do believe it was inspired by God. But, if we're talking the humans who wrote it we know a lil' about them.

 

read my quote, These people lived even before Jesus and understood something.

This converstaion between Occam and RHCKJDSKDHA is too long and usless. Simple answer is apply ur logics... there have been so many events that disprove God, as in all fair, all knowing, all powerful being.
I personally and i think many more, that firstly people were insipred by Aliens and what they knew of those " flying sticks, fireballs" it was super strange for them to watch that, it was God no doubt. Egyptian Pyramids.. wtf who could built such a thing back then that we can not even reproduce now..... Even as it says in Bible that is written ofcourse by men, Even before Jesus's birth a star apeared, of course it was a " fire ball or something like that" and it moved and shone when he was born. NObody knows why..BUt OFCOURSE it was GOD ..... low minds apply low inttelect in their thoughts... bigger minds apply more.

 

What would legitimacy have to do with it? Assuming that god exists, it wouldn't need legitimacy. It has the power to do what it wishes with nothing to curb its whims. Legitimacy would depend upon a standard that lies outside of god. Since it makes up the rules as it goes, legitimacy is not possible. Assuming this god is the only god, it is not a superior being, merely a more powerful one.

 

omg, and you peopel still argue what GOD can do or not do,.. just get it straight , theres no GOD as you imagine him, the one who creates it and makes it happen now.... wake up, progress, never stop learining, ... The ones that blidnly believe, are just waising their life ... too bad but they dont understand it, therefore they are closed-persons , less intellectual than us. God may help them ))

 

An example of a contradiction would be in the doublet of stories about Noahs Ark where one author says the flood lasted 40 days and forty nights and another says it lasted a year (give or take a few days, 370 days I think). As Portalguy said much progress has been made over who wrote the first 5 books of the bible (and presumeably the others) we now see the influence of politics and personal bias in the telling of the stories, what we do know is that it wasnt Moses. Of course you can still say that it was handed down by aural tradition by Moses, its an impossible argument to win. My personal suspicion is that if found another ancient text was written by 4 people hundreds of years later than thought its accuracy might be questioned.

 

Just a note..

Occams tone previously was quite 'harsh'
Sorry... 1/2 a bottle of wild turkey does that.. sorry jlpmg/whatever..ur name is a nightmare. Why is occam occam... cant F'n forget it or mispell it

Keep thinking im in vienna circle and giving freud a whack up the side of the head.

LOL...cheers to all.

Occam

 

God is the standard. He is good. Legitimacy in the sense of being justified in His actions and not violating His moral law(sinning) God doesn't make up the moral rules as he goes. To sin would be against His nature. His nature is good. He is the definition of good.

We were talking earlier about if it was wrong for God to kill people, specifically women and children. I was just saying that if you take everything into consideration, i don't think that this is a moral injustice.

 

no problem man. i really wish i had picked a name that was pronounceable, but now i'm stuck with it. maybe i can jump ship and come back as someone else.

 

No problem

Sorry if was rude.
Not intended

Peace be with u..

Occam