Protesting is ineffective

Discussion in 'Protest' started by Nitrousx.vr.2, Jul 21, 2008.

  1. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    though i suppose getting violent would be a good excuse for getting a great story about the "pigs" beating you up and violating your "rights."
     
  2. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    Then get a job, you stupid lazy ignorant gobshite. :eek:

    The fact that you wanna use violent protest because there are richer people than you demonstrates exactly why you will stay poor.
     
  3. mai

    mai Member

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    No. violence results in violence .
    What we need is more dialog
    If protesting is done in a sensible way -it can encourage dialog. After all people are often wrong. What you believe in now can change later in life.
    Keeping an open mind and listening to others while expressing your opinion is the best. you can't change the world -but you can change yourself and that is a very radical change
     
  4. The Scribe

    The Scribe Member

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    If you want a specific set of changes, you must convince the majority that those changes are desirable. The United States has a democratic government. Those who argue otherwise dispair of their ability to reach the majority.

    I was active in the anti-war movement during the War in Vietnam. I think anti-war demonstrations back then lengthened the war. Anti-war demonstrators with their violence, their obscenities, and their expressions of anti-American and pro-Communist sentiment angered the voters, and provoked them to vote for hawkish politicians who prolonged the war.

    If you get violent you will discredit what you believe in, and benefit your political enemies.
     
  5. 420UFO

    420UFO Member

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    I'm a bit half and half with this one. While I hate violence in general, I also feel like peaceful protesting isn't doing anything. People need to take notice, need to be woken up. I don't know what it'll take to get change.
     
  6. The Scribe

    The Scribe Member

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    It may take a Second Great Depression. We may be moving in that direction. As long as most Americans like and admire rich people, and as long as many Americans adhere to the delusion that hard work will make them rich, real change in the United States will not happen. Once the rich, the business community, and the Republican Party are widely hated, many positive changes become possible, just as they became possible during the First Great Depression.

    Of course, change might not be good change. During the 1970's I thought the War in Vietnam, the Watergate Scandal, and the economic stagflation would push the United States to the left. Unfortunately, we got Proposition 13, the tax revolt, the election of Ronald Reagan, and a Republican ascendency that continues. The fact that the presidential race is so close is evidence that the United States remains a right wing country.

    Also, in 1932 the American people and the Democrat Party were fortunate in that Franklin Roosevelt was avaliable. The Germans and the people of the world were unfortunate. In Germany Adolf Hitler was avaliable.
     
  7. Patriot4Revolt

    Patriot4Revolt Guest

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    Our ancestors succeeded... we should follow in their footsteps if need be.

    First - due process. If that fails - force may be necessary. If Americans are not willing to fight and potentially die for the freedoms our Forefathers fought and died for, then maybe those folks don't deserve the freedoms we have as a people.

    Just a thought. Talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words. We need an American people call to action. No excuses, no delays. We want our country back. PERIOD!
     

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