protest for womens rights in south dakota

God I hate lesbians... EW.

 

To all the men who are "prolife" How many times have YOU been pregnant?

Just wondering.

 

There is that better than you status again.

So because a woman wishes not to bare a living being it should be exterminated? Isn't that being a little selfish? But I guess that idea goes with that type of persons personality huh?

 

dear greasy tony,
your right im not from tennesse,bit i am however a united states citizen!
as a women i do cry for the women of the state of south dakota...is it not right for me to step outside of the box and feel another humans pain?what do you suppose the raped women of south dakota do,go meet someone in a dirty hotel who uses a wire hanger????are we dogs or women???i m just taking a wild guess here,but have you ever been raped?raped by your father brutaly raped by a stranger??have you ever been raped and forced to carry your rapist baby????step outside of the box,feel somebodys elses pain for once!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and today i cry for all people still stuck in that man made box,,yes i cry for your lost soul!!!!!!!!!

 

Maybe instead of abortion, we should allow the citizens to be armed, then, when someone tries to rape you, you can defend yourself.

 

hmmn,interesting thought!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Megara already proved that this statement is invalid, so stop using it for defense.

Since you put you lived in Jackson, TN on your location forum, I only assumed that you were from Tennessee. You proved to me that in fact you are not. Since you apparently lied & openly admitted that you were not from there, I can only assume that you are now in fact lying that you live in the U.S/States.

But ok, maybe you live in the U.S, but last time I looked foreigners weren't allowed to vote on laws, legislators, or polatitions for a curtain amount of years, & you don't seem like you've been living here long enough for that. So your political views should be invalid as argumentary material.

SO basically I'm not going to reply personally to you because you don't even live here & have no business in the South Dakota manner.

 

Do you believe men should have any say in pregnancy rights?

What are your thoughts on a 'male roe vs wade?" i.e. a man can opt out of financial responsibility if he expresses early on(along the lines of an abortion timeframe) that he does not want a child?

 

first of all let me reply to greasy tony,i didnt lie!!i lived in tennessee for 2 yrs....im from south florida,puertorican,by the way..and last time i checked that made me a united states citizen!!!!regardless if i live in south dakota or timbbuckto i have a voice and an opinion!!!!!!!!!i live outside of that man made state of mind your stuck in..
if there one thing about this country i do agree with is?
united we stand divided we fall!!
im not scarred to stand up and fight the good fight,speak up for the voices that arent heard!!!!

megare i must admit that ive never thought about it?but i will say however it was to agreeing adults
agreeing to have unprotected sex
then i fell like both parents should be financialy responsible!
but put in a different situation,like birth conrolled failed you
damb thats though to say but in my opinion he has the right to bow out gracefully
although to me any man who gets a women pregnant and just runs away from responsibility,is a copmplete ass anyway!!!!!!!!!!

 

Abortion is wrong and a law against abortion is stupid. Therefore I have generated much hatred towards me from both sides of the issue. Frankly, what I think should be done is leave it legal, but also eliminate the conditions which perpetuate abortion. If you truly think on this issue, abortion is a very unnatural thing to do, but of course we lead such unnatural lives nowadays that the people (especially the working people) have had their lives made clockwork in the name of profit for the rich. Get a socialist state which looks after the poor and caters to the pregnant, and we will see a significant drop in abortion, so much in fact that a law against it is needless even for the strongest anti-abortion advocate. If you look throughout history, there was never a law against abortion untill the industrial era, and it was only in the industrial era that people began to recieve abortions en masse. This is because the lifestyles people were begining to live were markedly unhuman, and we continue to live these consumeristic unhuman lives, and the poor bear the greatest amount of the weight this generates. Incidentally, the poor recieve the vast majority of abortions. If you are pro life, then think clearly, and do not vote in a conservative capitalist who says he will make abortion illegal, because conservative capitalism is the system which perpetuates women needing abortions. The capitalist who is pro-life is much like a man who forces you to be sick, holds a gun up to your head, and says "we are going to make you even more sick, but it is illegal for you to vomit".

If you are pro-choice, I hope that you can respect my opinions, if not agree with them. I respect the pro-choice opinions, however I also view abortion as an ill of society, and would like a system that eliminates the conditions which force many women to make such a difficult choice (which I am sure many would rather not have to make at all). As for whether a foetus is a human life....this is a grey area. I would not support the abortion of a foetus which has a developed brain and beating heart unless it were under EXTREME circumstances. Even if it is just a few cells big, it is still a waste to abort, but clearly there are conditions which make it unfortunately nessicary some times. If you want to tackle abortion, you dont make it illegal, you attack the capitalistic and industrial circumstances which make it a fact of modern life. Laws will not do anything but jack up the prices that doctors ask for, thereby making abortion doctors rich off of the miserable circumstances which continue unabaited.

This is a very difficult issue, and will not be solved by slapping a law on it, indeed that would most likely be putting a fire out with kerosine. The only viable solution is to fix all the other problems of modern society (and there are plenty), because the problems all intertwine. Poverty is a huge factor in why so many women recieve abortions. Emma Goldman knew this a century ago, she was disgusted with the amount of abortions the poor were driven to recieve. Many times it is not a matter of choice, it is a matter of women's lives being too harsh without a child, and impossible with one. Therefore I also hate rich abortion doctors, who profit from other peoples misery. they need to be paid less, and abortions for the poor should be free. at the same time, the poor should be elevated. In a perfect society, there would be no abortion because there would be none of the circumstances which make abortion a nessesity for many women. In a terrible society, those conditions would exist, and there would be a law against abortion, making those womens lives much harder. Many suicides would follow. Which society do you want?

 

BTW you dont TURN gay

 

And god hates you for hating anyone.
you dont like lesbians because they prefer eachother to your sorry ass. everytime ashley and I fuck I hope you cans hear her climaxing and calling out 'oh kimmy oh god kimmy'

 

Sometimes I feel as I was a lesbian trapped in a mans body.

 

Socialism? You've got to be kidding, ha ha, that has yet to work, and the only chance of it working is in a small community.

How can you say that we are living unhuman lives, We are living lives different from other animals, we are more intelligent than them, it makes sense for us to make our lives comfortable.

You said, "The capitalist who is pro-life is much like a man who forces you to be sick, holds a gun up to your head, and says "we are going to make you even more sick, but it is illegal for you to vomit"." Wow, what? Seriously, that makes no sense.

You know what, poverty is a problem that causes abortions, but, if you can't pay for your child, don't have sex. I think its wrong that children should have to live in poverty, but it's their parents fault. These people need to learn to put their children above their own desires.

Anyone can say that they want your perfect society, but face it, never going to happen.

 

so poor people are the only ones that abortion affect?so your going to tell me that if some 15 yr. old girl gets raped its her parents problem because they're poor? abortions hit home in every class(white collar,blue collar).....you know what i think its a shame children have to live in poverty to,but lets not put the blame on the parents!!
where is the job opp. for these families.dont turn your nose up like this is just some poor people disease.....dont you think poor people pray and dream for the best for there children just like you do..what about the american factory worker who works for little of nothing/12hr. shifts,,just so she can make ends meet...so let me guess,she to has no right to have kids huh??and by the way when is the last time you tried to do something to help the "poor" in your neighborhood??dont turn and look the other way,face the problem,our problem,americas problem!!!!!!!!!!face the problem and do something to help!!!you dont have to give them money give them your time and experience....if they cant read take 20min. out of your day and help them to learn...
stop pointing your finger at the poor and turn around and point that finger directly at yourself.................

 

In that post, I was talking to another person about abortion in general, saying that it is wrong for parents in poverty to have sex and get an abortion that its their responsibility to take care of it. I've seen these people, they go to places interview, for what, so they can get their welfare check, these people need to get off of their lazy asses and do something worthwhile, instead of using up my tax money. And you know what, I do plenty for my community, what I do helps poor and rich alike. So, next time, don't take my words out of context, and don't accuse me of something I'm not doing.

 

The bottom line is this: it is SAD that this is even an issue or an argument. Murder is murder, no matter how you justify it.


"Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions."

 

Small communities are precisly the goal of socialism, small communities are far superior and far more natural than big, cold, and dead megalopolis'.

We are living unhuman lives because humans ARE animals. We are biological organisms and we (despite how most people think nowadays) are utterly dependant on nature to continue surviving. Our reliance on technology and consumerism has robbed us of our humanity, and that is why the world is so fucked, and it is getting worse. In 20 years, depression will be the leading cause of death in the US with car crashes placing in second, according to the Scientific American. If comfort is all you want, then by all means, spend all your dollars on it, it will not bring you happiness, but only more want.

It makes perfect sense. Right wing pro-life groups who similtaniously espouse Randian Capitalism are perpetuating the circumstances that lead to most abortions. It is like somebody making a person sicker and sicker all the while prohibbiting them to vomit. Modern Society is sick, Capitalism makes us sick, and mass abortion (as well as many other problems) is the metaphorical vomit that comes from a sick society. Vomiting sucks, but what sucks more is being forced to not vomit. A simple analogy.

Sex is one of the last good pure pleasurable and natural acts available to most people in the modern west, especially the poor. To say that poor people should be abstainant is wrong and elitist. And it is not their fault they are poor. They are poor because they live in a system that requires poverty to sustain cheap labour. The poorer the poor are, the cheaper they will work for, and the richer the rich will become. This is free trade.

I agree that a utopian society will never happen, but this does not mean we should stop trying. If we keep on trying for perfection, even though we will never achieve it, we will achieve something better than what we have now. In fact, people who do not want to change the system right now are imbiciles, never in human history have we teetered so close to utter annihilation.

 

please dont misunderstand what im saying.im not saying women should go around killing unwanted pregnancies.(although i do feel its a womens right)
my argument or debate shall we say is the fact that they dont even want to leave the option of abortion open to victims of rape....should the rapee have to concieve her rapist baby,shouldnt it be her option?wouldnt forcing her to have the baby torture the poor women even more?all im saying is leave the rape victim the option..

 

well the problem is..if you make the exception for rape/incest you're basically conceding that a fertilized egg is not life.

it is a sticky situation for pro life people. Obviously they dont want raped women to have to carry their rapists baby...but they would see the solution to that as ending all rapes, not allowing abortion.