I don't recall Mark, Engels or Barkunin talking about getting rid of all opponent media. As for myself I say the media can say what ever it wants yet its labour has the right to strike over it, for example if the workers at Fox News want to strike over its lies then not only do they have every right but this is a much better way of shutting these morons up then just saying they have no right to say it.
This is where Bakuninists (Anarchist) disagree with Marxist, Bakunin thought Marx was an authoritarian and tried to overthrow Marx yet this only branched the movement. Marxist plan is gain state power to build a new society while Bakuninist plan is the new society to overthrow the state.
Physical labour isn't everything, you wouldn't be able to partake in this online forum without people maintaining the equipment that links us.
I was just refuting the idea of holding physical labours higher then other workers, I don't want any "The industrial workers will lead the revolution" "No the farmers will" "No the lumpen (underclass) will" you can't have a classess society if your too busy fighting who is more equal then who.
Be careful Stkr, you never know when you are overlooking someone or something. America is changing, and quickly. Russia didn't have the means to support itself like America will, if overnight we switched to a Socialist/Anarchist nation it would only take a decade to work out everything we haven't planned for already, and every year we wait and grow is 3 years off the number 10. We are strong, and we will fight.
I'm not worried about communism per sec. It's some of those clowns in DC that worry me and the way choices have been taken away from people, especially when it comes to selecting a President and other federal officials. The weeding out of political competition by the RNC and DNC is disturbing. .
hey, man, I didn't even have to read your whole post, and I can say I deffo agree! Communists are fuckers, as well as nazis, terrorists, and other idiots destroying our world!
I love communism threads you get the 14-19 y/o`s who dont know anything about struggle and strife posting about how great it (communism) is and then you get the other extreme of comumunists SUCK and are idiots..I dont see anyone from a communist country posting on here EVER and if communism is so great why are hundreds if not thousands of people trying to get out of Cuba....and why do those that land on the shores of Florida HATE Castro and Cuba ...if something is great you generally dont risk your life to get away...if you dont learn from your mistakes you are doomed to repeat them........
I think the commi's are pretty much under control by now? What we got? Jong Il and Castro? Castros not even crazy no more, and they're both old as hell.
yeah!!! You're probably talking about yourself.. :H I really admire your naivety! How the hell can you have an anarchy avatar and at the same time, you can say that communism is a good way to go!???? Communism is about oppressing your individuality, and not about freedom!!!
what the fuck was that "get back to me when you're grown up"? Who do you think you are that you jeer me like that!? trust me I know what communism is! I live in Czech republic, which was still 16yrs ago a communist country, my grandpa was in jail because of commies, coz he didn't do what THEY wanted. That what you're talkin' about, "a real communism".. hhahaaaa.. what exactly is it?! Does it work anywhere...?!
ok, so sorry. you ain't fucker, though I hate commies and I have many reasons to hate them.. and don't tell me to grow up!
What a load of bollocks. Who cares about your hypothetical utopia. Why should anyone else give up their freedom because you want impose your perverse collectivist ideology? What is your experience with communism anyway? You read about it in a book? That's great. Maybe you just like the snide intellectual superiority complex that comes with being a communist and lecturing to the masses. "individuality is in fact blind conformity"? Yes. Freedom is slavery. Whatever you say. Go form a collective and show us how well it works, we'd all like to be proven wrong.
then let me lob one back. how come you're so anti-chavez when after all he's been democratically elected by the ppl there on numerous occasions to do just that, yet you hate him for trying? doesn't sound to me like someone who's genuinely willing to be proven wrong. ps and btw, i in no way endorse what the communist guy is saying.
I'm astounded that there are people that seriously suggest communism as a reasonable and attainable form of government. Has history taught you absolutely nothing? Wake up from your utopian day dream. People aren't all equal. We don't all deserve the same peice of the economic pie. The person who refuses to work in favor of drinking and day time television has not earned the right to make the same living as a highly trained scientist. Capitalism isn't perfect, but it's light years beyond communism. Motivation, determination, and hard work should always be the deciding factor for our position in society. And yes, I do feel that economic success is part of living a good life. I want to spend my life travelling, flying and yachting. That's not to say that life cannot be good without money, but to achieve my personal goals, wealth is required.