Property taxes are unconstitutional

governments are created to protect?

well look up deshaney, pinder, wood and several supreme court cases where they ruled the government has no duty to protect!

They broke the contract, its null and void on its face!

So what do we have them for?

 

Yes.

You brought them up, if they have relevance present it.

Who broke the contract, and how?

For whom?

But, on the property tax issue, it is more a local government issue not addressed as far as I can find in the U.S. Constitution.

 

:2thumbsup: Finally....

 

I already told you that they do not serve the intended purpose fore their creation, confirmed by the supreme court, you arent familiar with the cases is that your problem?

 

but you cannot vote not to pay taxes on the local level.
you are aware of that yes?

 

In an attempt to remain 'on topic', perhaps you shuld point out what it is you are referring to in the afrorementioned cases relative to the topic, specifically 'property taxes' and the 'U.S. Constitution'.

 

Fully...

 

The only way you can vote to NOT pay taxes on a local level is with your feet, however I think it would be difficult, if not impossible to find somewhere to live where there are no taxes at all.
Local taxes are assessed to provide the services provided by the local government, garbage disposal, street repairs, government offices, and utilities including wages, benefits, and pensions of local government employees, etc.
Taxation is not optional, and about all you can vote on is what you want the local government to have responsibility for providing, with the understanding that what you ask for must be paid for.

 

because the cases cited are not the point I was making. apparently you are commenting before you understand what you are commenting about, and no, no offense, but seriously, I have no intention in putting up legal matters that are substantially more complex than the fairly simple ones I already proposed in an attempt to discuss it with anyone who does not understand the fundamental meaning of allodail. That would be pointless. the one thing nice about talking with people at the legislative level is refreshing because the meanings of these words and how they have been used past and present are already known and understood. Unfortunately to them its talking shop and the last thing they want to do once they leave the office.

what makes you think that you and a few of your pals can form a corporation make rules where I am not a party to the contract and expect me and my offspring to be subject to them in perpetuity?

Do you support mobsterism

 

well I upped the ante for all you statists.

Not only are "MOST" taxes illegitimate, but so are the governing documents.

The cases I cited prove that this insurance protection racket that everyone assumes to exist DOES NOT exist.

That is completely false advertizing and covered under the statutes of frauds as well as consumer protection yada yada yada...... (their own rules!) LOL

 

you assume a lot.

benefits?

What benefits? That insurance scam?

Where does it say if you are not a citizen you dont have the same tax liabilities that citizens do? You pay the same amount of tax either way.

So you admit then that mobsterism has completely taken over the whole world?

 

yeh thats exactly what al capone did. You could elect any mobster representative you wanted to protect you. Capone, Colosimo, Accardo, Carnelli, Druggan and on and on.

They all offered protection from da bad guys and other "services". at a small mill rate, (taxes). Of course that is illegal because Al was butting in on the governments mobster monopoly.

wages? Taxed for the privilege of "survival"? property? The privilege of having a roof over your head, again the privilege of "survival"?

Hell I know people who have removed all the services you mentioned from their properties, cancelled all police, fire, school, garbage, and even sewer etc and they are still required to pay the same taxes.

Apparently, since you seem to be defending it, you find mobsterism an acceptable practice? The people who rejected the services still have the liability and obligation to PAY while "they" (you?) get the benefit of being PAID for some mythical "protection" that even the supreme court says does not exist!

 

This country used to respect property rights in the good old days

 

What???
I'm not defending anything other than the need to reduce the size, taxing and spending of government, especially at the Federal level. Are you claiming it needs to grow larger?