Prop 19 isn't passing

I'm gonna go apeshit and kick another hole in my wall. :banghead:


Fucking morons on Facebook. I want to drop kick them all in the fuckin face. FUCK THEM ALL!

 

I agree it would. and i in no way think it would enable kids to do anything wrong. But i wonder what they would consider a private residence because i bet you any money if you were living in the ghetto where houses are 5 inches apart they wouldnt let you grow.

 

Well here's to hoping. :sunny:

 

I wouldn't swear to this, but I think it would be a huge hassle for them to redefine private residence. That would instantly get opposition from so many normally opposed groups it would die quickly...

 

Yea, because all the weed that's sold on the streets is pure

 

Yeah this is true, i didnt think of that. But, Ill take street weed over whatever is in a cigarette any day.

 

"The truth is that we are losers. You make enough fuss that you attract the real forces down on you. And then you have to hide. We're always gonna be in the minority, and we're always gonna lose. We've always lost, all through history. We're the divine losers. And I keep inviting all these young, smart people: 'Come with us. Lose with us. Lose beautifully. We are not meant to win.' -Ken Kesey

 

Romanticising the oppression of our rights as citizens isn't really an appealing concept to me. Though I understand the sentiment of the quote.

 

As far as being a loser goes, the proposition honestly didn't lose by that much.
I'm sure a similar item will makes it way to the ballot again. It's only a matter of time before marijuana is eventually legalized.

 

At a guess, I would say shortly after california declares bankruptcy...

 

Actually, it lost by 528897 votes. That's a pretty significant number of people. Yeah, it may not have seemed like much percentage-wise, but 11% is a pretty big deficit to try and sway.

Not to say that it can't be done. It definitely can. Hopefully people will continue to push for education over the course of the next year or two while they can write up a new and better bill.

 

Well you make an excellent point but I must stick with my answer... because there will be enough backlash from the elite ranks that the masses would be emboldened to act- and even if they didn't, criminalizing coffee would create a black market that the justice department would not have the resources to deal with. It's nor about public health and it's not about what we really want... if either of those predominated then there wouldn't be genetically modified foods in the food supply, nor would there be chemical sweeteners like aspartame available without warning labels... plug "aspartame" into a search engine and do a bit of perusing...

The drug policy isn't about public health and more than the government gives a flying fuck about what we want in general. It has gotten to the point where if I see a political ad claiming that the candidate is going to Washington to clean up government I already know that not only am I being lied to, and the folks who created the ad don't think very highly of my intelligence... but it happens year after year and I've come to the conclusion that there's very little if any intent to make good on any of the pledges... and any explanations detailing "unforeseen" circumstances have already been written.

We have a significant portion of the populace that is thoroughly brainwashed about weed and what you see as proof they see as something else. The industries against which legal marijuana would effectively compete for profits will use their considerable resources ensuring that enough people remain misinformed about it so as not to be concerned over potential legalization. What is needed is a population that resists such indoctrination... people who are willing to research an issue to get the facts and not rely on what's being spoon-fed to them via mass media propaganda and who reject the fallacy that it is a singular gateway drug.

Unfortunately the apathy you cite in differing with my "coffee riot" scenario is something that only a full-scale economic crash would help eradicate... but as long as the illusion that everything is ok can be created people in general will be reluctant to adopt an activist mind set.. as that is "someone elses" job. In two years there will be a refreshed group of office hopefuls pledging to clean up the mess that the next congress will create and the sheep will be buying into the lies- hook, line, and sinker.

 

The context of my reply was to this:

"The truth is that we are losers. You make enough fuss that you attract the real forces down on you. And then you have to hide. We're always gonna be in the minority, and we're always gonna lose. We've always lost, all through history. We're the divine losers. And I keep inviting all these young, smart people: 'Come with us. Lose with us. Lose beautifully. We are not meant to win.'

A disparity of 11% does not signify that "we're always gonna lose".
I was simply pointing out that support has been growing for years and will continue growing in the future. 11% is kind of trivial when other propositions are losing votes 7 to 1.

While we're throwing out numbers, here's another fun fact this thread might appreciate.

11% of Americans under age 30 bothered to vote yesterday

Things like that is what makes it a waiting game. I guess not enough old people have died off yet for stuff like proposition 19 to pass.

 

I hate to sound like an agist jerk, but that's what I was thinking.

 

Obamacare will take care of that.

lol, jk i dont know what the fuck im talking abiout

 

Only 6869 votes seperate yes and no for arizonas med marijuana now... out of 1317873 votes cast.... the NO's are in the lead...

 

meh, it isn't really agist, just how society generally operates.

"If you're not a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. If
you're not a conservative when you're 40, you have no head." - Winston Churchhill

 

True, excellent quote.

 

This is just sad...

2010 and we can't smoke a joint in the privacy of our own home.