Proof that Christianaty is bull shit!

Come neodude1212, tell us how you really feel about it!

Actually considering the fact that about 40 men from diverse walks of life shared in writing the bible, resulting in the collection of the 66 books that make up the Bible, the Bible has amazing internal harmony and where it touches on historical facts it is again amazingly accurate.

 

"Historical facts" were relevent back then, why wouldnt they write about them? They need some substance for their stories, do they not? If you lived in california with the wildfires, and you were trying to capture the spirituality of the area, would you not write of the wildfires in some wordy metaphors? Overtones and the occasional historical events arent going to sway a skeptic any more than they will in "The Adventures of Huck Finn".

 

anyone that tries to deconstruct the bible and try to "prove" that it is bullshit obviously does not know what religion really is

 

Obviously my answer was in response to neodude1212, in an attempt to show him that the Bible was not a "crock" in all respects, not an attempt to sway him to Christianity.
As for your comment, the Bible does not contain "Historical facts" like modern day history books that are revised every year to correct the mistakes. The Bible has not been revised in over 2000 years, and in fact when experts say that the Bible is not historically correct it is they that have always corrected their opinions, which I happen to find amazing.

 

well, I feel as if I cannot trust it, as the one irrefutable key to my salvation.

I think on the whole the bible was written out of inspiration from God, but after 2000 years or more, who can say what was originaly written? If you look at the history of the catholic church, they have acted so corrupt it's disgusting. Im not naive enough to not at least consider the possibility that somewhere along the line they "tweaked" the bible for various reasons.

Then again, maybe they didn't. I feel that God exist, but I don't think he is bound in leather. Surely I can have some sort of life without having to consult paper and ink.

It may have been written out of divine inspiration, but that doesn't mean they necessarily got it write. I might paint a picture out of homage and inspiration from Salvador Dali, but I guarantee you it will be a piece of shit.

 

I say your trick didnt work because the devil only chooses worthy folk to teach his wisdom....but I agree, christianity is bullshit.

 

First I just want to say thank you for your very open and honest post. You are not alone in how you feel about this matter, I have talked with many others that feel the exact same way.

In fact the King James Bible is a good example of what you call a "tweaked" Bible, it contains several of what are called spurious Scriptures, meaning that they can’t be found in any of the older original language manuscripts. But there are translations were the translators have been very careful to hold faithfully to the older original language manuscripts.

As for your statement; “Surely I can have some sort of life without having to consult paper and ink.” Of course you can! One of the purposes of the Bible is to help us to get to know God, but the Bible points out that there is another way to get to know God and that is by observing and meditating on his creation. So you can get to know a lot about God without even knowing how to read let alone consulting paper and ink, just by studying nature. But if you want to know God in more detail, that’s why God had the Bible written.

Now I’m not asking you to believe this but when you asked; how do we know that the men who wrote the Bible got it right, I always think; if God want a book written to tell all mankind about who he was and what he was doing, It seems to me that if any body, God would have the ability to make sure that the men who wrote it got it right. So to me the question was never did the men get it right but is the Bible that book?

 

i dont doubt that over thousands of years the stories may have been tweaked and what not so i dont really read the bible, but i believe that there is God and Jesus.

 

Actually it is a common misconception the Bible has been “tweaked” over the millenniums. The Jewish scribes that copied the Bible were very diligent in making sure no mistakes or changes were made, even to the point of counting all the words and letters and if one letter was missing they would destroy it and make another copy. So any “tweaking” that has been done is fairly recent and is easily checked.

 

OWB, what about Constanine telling the Presbyters to bring together all of their various cult myths, keep the "good" and give it all a new title, in the name of unified Rome?

 

That's kind of what I meant by recent (after the Bible had been completed).

 

Not really. You said Jews were the transcribers, when the Jews weren't even the ones putting it all together. It was cult leaders from all over the empire, building the universal (catholic} church of rome, and that is when the bible came to be. It was "tweaked" from the word go.

 

That is irrelevant, as it assumes that God exist and indeed wished a book to be written.

 

ultimitely, worship the god WITHIN YOURSELF.

dont worship a mothafuckin book that was written by MAN
thats a bunch of bullshit

look at the book of mormon.

i'd have to say if i were to worship any religion, it'd be tibetian buddhism.

simply because buddhism doesnt make you worship some "guy in the sky", its more about evolving spiritually. which like i said, worship nobody but the god within yourself.


possibly watch zeitgeist.

www.zeitgeistmovie.com

and go ahead and tell me that its bullshit, i agree that some of it is, once you research stuff and find it out the facts for yourself, the more you realize what the fuck is up.

 

I don't think that it is about worshiping a book, as much as it is about learning what the book may teach you. Just don't take the writings so literal.

The Bible is full of many great philosophical ideas, and I don't think there are many books that can compare.

 

The Bible was written from about 1513 B.C.E. to about 98 C.E., or during about 1,610 years. During the time period before Jesus the Jewish scribes and copyists were very diligent to make sure no changes or mistakes crept into what had been written. Then in 98 C.E. the last of the Bible was written.

As for what you are talking about, the Emperor Constantine and the Council of Nicaea. Constantine wasn’t even born till 275 C.E. almost 200 years after the Bible was complete and the Council of Nicaea didn’t take place until the year 325 C.E. some 225 years after the Bible was completed. At the time of the Council of Nicaea the Emperor Constantine was still unbaptized when he presided over this council so any thing done or decided is suspect.

So, no, the Bible was not "tweaked" from the word go!

 

Actually you where the one who said; “I feel that God exist” I was just answering in kind.

As for assuming that God wished a book to be written, why yes I did, when a person says “If” as in “if” God want a book written, you are saying that you’re making an assumption so that what you say after that would be true only if that assumption where true.

Thus once again: "If" God wanted want to write a book using men to write it then being God he would have the ability to assure it’s accuracy.

So it was not irrelevant.

 

I believe God exist, but that does not make me necessarily right.
Also, yes God would have the ability to assure its accuracy, but that also does not mean he utilized that ability.

 

Acctually I can't find it anywhere else either. I must have read something like that but I got confused over time.

Ignore it please.

 

Not, that means that the bible wasnt started until 225 years after you thought it was finished....do you even know what happened there?