PROOF! No God :)

All hail the lucky condom! Or be damned to smother in agony in a pool of semen.

 

a condom in your wallet since high school
doesnt sound like you got very lucky. lol

Every lucky condom i ever had got used

 

You twisted words, Libertine

I said he was outside human RESTRICTIONS, not comprehension or logic.

Trying to put the Lord into a math equation is impossible. You cannot define a human by a math equation, how do you expect to define God?

 

The Lord, now is that Jesus, or is the Lord "God" and for that matter, is "God" Yahweh, or is "God" Jesus....Christians confuse me in their labeling process.

EDIT: Oh and with the whole "Lord" thing, be careful with that because
Lord is the literal name of Frey, the Norse god, Frey means Lord, so you
might wanna check who ya been praying to

 

All I know is that he sacrified himself to appease himself and now he sits at the right hand of himself.

 

The Judeo-Christian God has a few different names:

Adonai
El Shaddai
YHVH / I AM WHAT I AM
The Lord
Yeshua/Jesus Christ
Elohim.
Exodus 3:13-15:
13 Moses said to God, "Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is his name?' Then what shall I tell them?"
14 God said to Moses, "I am who I am . This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I Am has sent me to you.' "

Any way, we're all referring to the same thing.

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You brought up the whole frey/Lord thing. However, I ask you, if I changed my name to Elvis Presley does that mean I'm him? The Norse pagans may have used a name like Frey but that doesn't make him the God of the Israelites any more than I am the real Elvis Presley

 

If you were in a room with another named Erise, and I called "HEY ERISE" which one was i speaking to?

I know who your god is, i know his many names, and i also know that he isnt Jesus.

He is Yahweh, El, father of the Israelites, and vidictive jealous god of the Levite priests. He is a wrathful and jealous god, who took over the religion of the Semitic people.

oh and you forgot Allah on your list.

 

True, for example, Einstein's ideas were, in that day, nonsense. He was one of the few who followed his nonsense ideas all the way through and found something real there. To learn or create, we must let go of the known and explore the vastness of the unknown (nonsense, illogical stuff). Otherwise you're just rehashing old info again and again.

 

Trippin, i love your sig picture. Its great.

 

ugh, I most certainly hope not. Can you imagine carrying that thing around AFTER getting lucky?

 

I believe in god, i believe he is so awesome that a human brain cant comprehend him and i dont believe in him because i am afraid of hell. i love him because he can hear my thoughts and read my soul and because he created me. i dont believe everything the bible says because no one really understands god anymore than i do and its crazy to think you do. but god is my light into the darkness. he holds my hand.

 

Obviously you dont believe in the Biblical god at all, so dont even worry about the Bible. You believe in the Creator, not the one the bible credits.

Yahweh most certainly didnt create the world, or anything in it, the bible just proclaims him as such. Lots of gods have been credited with it, but only the Unknown Creator made the universes.

Part of animistic (not all) belief is the belief in the Great Creator, being beyond our comprehention, and us being too small for "it" to know we even exist. That is where worship of more culutural gods, and local spirits come into play.

The one who holds my hand is the Great Mother, the Earth Herself, the Divine Feminine. I look to the gods of my ancestors for inspiration and guidance, and deal with local spirits on a need be basis.

But dont cut your love of Creator short by including the bible in anything "he" did.

the Great Creator is above the Bible, its just a book written about one jealous and minuscule god with a good publisher.

 

Once again, I am surprised because, like Libertine just did, you are using the SAME logic that Fundamentalists use to justify their claims except you came to a different conclusion; a conclusion not in favor of God as portrayed through the Bible.

It's so hypocritical that you can write about what you "know" about my view of God and how you "know" that God is not Jesus Christ or anything from the Bible. If I did the same to you, I'd get shot down for being presumptuous, as I should be if I acted that way.

Don't preach something unless you can actually practice it.

 

I know nothing on your personal view of god, but i know a pretty good bit on Semitic mythology, the origin of Yahweh as a god in the Caananite pantheons, and that Jesus isnt Yahweh in the Jewish mythos.

I have said nothing of Christianinty in that post, only the Biblical god, who is Yahweh. You can put your spin on it all you want, Yahweh has a history just like every other god of every other culture, and regardless of your "view" of him, the history doesnt change.

I am not being hypocritical, i am just stating that if you believe in a creator god, but not the bible as truth, then you dont worship Yahweh, you worship the Creator. That isnt a false statement. Yahweh said the bible is his word, and if you dont believe it, then you dont believe him.

If you worship the God of the Bible, then worship him the way he said. I am just pointing out what was written, not my opinion. Take it up with your god if you have a problem with it.

 

I am worshiping the way he said. Christians believe that Jesus of Nazareth, whether he was fully aware of it or not, is part of (God's) story for humanity that grew out of Yahweh/Elohim. In my everyday life, I strive to preach the gospel, sometimes using words, and working in society not for myself, but for God...

 

Then you worship Jesus, i was talking about Yahweh, didnt mention Jesus at all. You are the one putting your fundamental spin on the myths, you cant take another cultures myths and modify them and call them truth, like the Christian church did. Save yourself some worry, and pretend like i am talking about Jews instead of christians, because he is their god to begin with.

 

Christ called me to serve. This means engaging in dialogue not to convert others, but to become who I am through inter-relating with others. Most importantly, though, serving isn't an academic exercise, which is why I switched career paths. I still love to teach, but the places where I've seen God the most is trying to fulfill the needs of the impoverished, and comforting those who are ill. Needs include: helping the mentally ill accept and understand their illness, and perhaps seek out therapies which may or may not include the use of drugs; needs include working to get better education in schools in this country, particularly those in areas with low property taxes, and in other countries. Needs include intentional communities where single women with children and little money can participate in welfare-to-work programs that guide them through the process of getting jobs that can sustain them and their children.

I want to fulfill needs as much as I can. Faith in Christ has led me to this. If you do this, and you have no faith in God... then ...Amen. So be it. Either way, I just get frustrated sometimes with academic arguments cause I feel like I could be doing something out there in the world instead of holding debates on semantics and the finer points of theology. These are important; just not as practical as I once thought they were.

 

ITA with you Heron...every single word!

 

I respect your faith in Christ, i do. He is your god, but when it comes to the theology of your religion, you have to understand where its coming from.

If you read some of my earlier posts, in this, and other threads, you will find me defending Christians for their beliefs are as valid as mine.

I believe in Yahweh, dont worship him, but believe in him. I do not believe all of his myths and deeds to be true, i dont even believe all the myths and deeds of my own gods to be true. But if you follow a god, that lays down rules, then im sorry, you have to follow them.

That is why, from my view, you are worshipping Jesus as your god, not Yahweh. Jesus was the loving god, the one who welcomed all into his heart, he is a good god. Yahweh wasnt, and when Jesus tryed to teach the people that god was love and all the things he taught, he wasnt talking of Yahweh. Jesus became that god to those people and through their worship, he did indeed build a place for them.

But Jesus isnt my god either. But he is your god, and you are right in worshipping him, because it is your heart that is drawn to him.

Worship Jesus, tell people that he loves them, but know your theology to back up your faith.

 

Their God..my God. It sounds like you're arguing about a toy in the schoolyard. "No, that's my God! You can't have him!" I don't own God like an object, neither does any one group of people! I think there is one God. You can think there are several or none. But don't call me a fundamentalist just because I argued with the logic you used..which is the same logic that fundamentalists use.

You said A.) Yahweh most certainly didnt create the world, or anything in it, the bible just proclaims him as such.

I said: B.) You might as well be a fundamentalist asserting to me "Jesus Christ is the only way, just as the Bible proclaims." But I'm not saying that. I'm saying that I believe in Jesus Christ. But you are using the same logic as a fundamentalist:
how come you have the right to tell me what God is or isn't?