Discussion in 'Protest' started by renee, May 13, 2004.

  1. renee

    renee Member

    That made me sick. :eek:
  2. Ginge

    Ginge Ye Olde Member

    I agree. And I agree with WaitingForTheSun, too.

    I'm not "pro-abortion". I don't think anybody LIKES the thought or act of abortions. Personally, I know I would never have an abortion, but I am pro-choice in that I feel a woman should have the right to choose.
  3. Mintaoism

    Mintaoism Member

    A baby shouldn't be brought into this world if it isn't going to be loved or cared for. The woman should know that she is pregnant before 3-4. I think it is wrong to abort after 4-5 months depending on status.
  4. HappyHaHaGirl

    HappyHaHaGirl *HipForums Princess*

    Yeah....really, the biggest reason for sex is to reproduce, but when chicks get pregnant, they're all like, "How did this happen????" Duh....

    If you aren't prepared to face the responsibility of having children, I don't know if I think you should be having sex....but that's kind of extreme thinking for today, I guess, when kids have sex like our parents used to hold hands....
  5. renee

    renee Member

    Pro-choice people get on my nerves. The first thing that they ask me is... What if they get raped?! Are you against that too?! *grinds teeth* GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!:eek:
  6. Ginge

    Ginge Ye Olde Member

    Not all pro-choice people are like that. I'm not. I could say some things that pro-life/anti-choice people do and say that get on my nerves, but I know they don't all act in one way.
  7. FreakyJoeMan

    FreakyJoeMan 100% Batshit Insane

    'Course it's complicated. I am kind of an advocate for personnal responcibility, and I gotsta say, if ya fucked, ya might have a baby. Even with all that protection n' shit, there's always that chance. And if ya didn't use protection, I feel that ya deserve it 'cause you were so fuckin stupid. With that being said, I totally support the morning after pill being sold without a perscription. And, for the pro-lifers, it's not like the women who get abortions don't feel anything for this baby. I saw this thing on CBN(yuck) a while ago it was this 40 year old lady who said she got 3 abortions when she was seventeen, and NOW she regrets it. Jesus Fucking Fuck! Three?! I think that after the first one, ya might have learned to use a condom or some sort of propolactic, but noooo...ya gotta get pregnanat two more times, abort those feti(fetuses?fetussus?) and after 33 year yer startin to regret it? Personnally, I'm releived that those babies weren't born to such a stupid person. But when ya wittle it down, this planet's so overpopulated that chances are, that kid's life will be fucked up in one way or another. What's that thing they do in China? One kid per family? Now, people here might say that that's an infringment on our liberties, but ya gotta do something! People WILL NOT stop fucking. It's reality. And what are we gonna say when we got a third of the world's population like India?
  8. Ginge

    Ginge Ye Olde Member

    THREE abortions at the age of seventeen??

    See, THAT'S what I don't agree with. Though I am pro-choice, I must say that abortion is NOT birth control. And the girls who use it as such really piss me off to no end. Get your ass on The Pill! Or Depo, or The Patch or SOMETHING. And make your guy wear a condom.

    Grr! People need to educate themselves. There are still people who think the pull-out method works, for crap's sake.

    Women who go through abortions do feel for the child, yes, but in the case of that 40 year old woman, I don't feel any sympathy toward her at all whatsoever.
  9. FreakyJoeMan

    FreakyJoeMan 100% Batshit Insane

    I agree. Fuckin educate yerselves.
  10. HappyHaHaGirl

    HappyHaHaGirl *HipForums Princess*

    It's always terrible when a fetus is aborted, but it's going to happen anyway, whether it's legal or not. What I meant is that, good or bad, abortions need to be carried out safely and as painlessly as possibly for the mother and her baby.
  11. squawkers7

    squawkers7 radical rebel

    I have given birth to 7 beautiful kids. I have also had 3 miscarriages...that
    some Dr's like to call spontanius abortions....YUUUGH!!!
    For alot of situations I guess if I had to vote pro-life or pro-chioce, then I guess I would vote's just for me personally I choose to have the baby. Even though after the 7th kid I had my tubes tied, and even that isn't always a guarantee cuz my cousin had it done twice.
  12. FreakyJoeMan

    FreakyJoeMan 100% Batshit Insane

    Jeeze, sorry. :(
  13. renee

    renee Member

    The abortion rate may decrease though if it's illegal.
  14. renee

    renee Member

    Sorry to hear that.:(
  15. HappyHaHaGirl

    HappyHaHaGirl *HipForums Princess*

    But it will be the same this as the drug war....I'm sure it would decrease it significantly, but the women that did go through with it would be facing terrible conditions and people who didn't deserve it would be making lots of money illegaly.
  16. WayfaringStranger

    WayfaringStranger Corporate Slave #34

    im with you girly. and not most hippies are pro-choice, just the most vocal ones, and when it comes down to the choice, most women arent happy they made it. theories and political correctness are nice to talk about it, but ive run into enough feminist who will berate you for eating meat(which i dont do) and tell you she'd kill a baby all in the same breath.

    (execising my right to choose free-speech)
  17. I'm on the fence with abortion.

    If its a hooker not using a condom, a promiscuous girl who intentionally uses no protection, or a crack fiend sleeping around and getting pregnant, then they don't deserve an abortion.

    BUT if a girl was raped, sexually violated, or drugged and raped then give it to them. Why bring a child into a world where a mother doesn't want them?

    That's all.
  18. lovelyweapon

    lovelyweapon Member

    Right. Because everyone wants those hookers and crack fiends having babies. They'd make wonderful mothers!

    It may be an unpopular one here, but it's my opinion that some people (please note I said some, not all) in the pro-life movement don't necessarily want to stop the "killing of innocent babies", they want to punish women who have sex. Your comment is a perfect example.
  19. MamaTheLama

    MamaTheLama Too much coffee

    Oh my.

    Crack babies now.

    I suppose we should put up surveillence cameras in bedrooms to make sure the sex was unintentional or a violation in order to determine if an abortion should be granted.

    Wouoldn't it just be MUCH easier to educate people rather than judge them?

    I swear, people are punishment crazy. What ever happened to LOVE?
  20. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

    How flip. You have NO IDEA what pregnancy is like, do you?

    I take it you have A) Never been raped B)Never been sexually assaulted C) Never been pregnant.

    Pregnancy can be very dangerous. I have been pregnant 6 times. I have never had an abortion, and I don't think I would have one (unless I was raped, and if possible I would use Plan B to prevent implantation.) You form an attachment to the father when you are pregnant. HOW can you form an attachment to someone who hates so much, they have to humiliate womyn for fun? What about the child? Children often take after their parents, in more than just looks. There is some evidnece that some violent behavior is hereditary. I will NOT be bringing the spawn of a violent evil man into this earth! No one else should be forced to either. I hope any womyn who loved children would know bringing a child like this, who probably has a propensityto commit violence, into the world, would think twice about it.

    Pregnancy is dangerous. You are about radically more likely to die during the year of pregnancy than you are if you are not pregnant, or if you have an abortion (YES, early abortion is actually safer than full term pregnancy.) I spent up to 6 months in bed because of pregnancy complications with the four pregnancies I was able to carry. I also had four C sections. I could have bled to death from one of my miscarriages. Womyn DIE from pregnancies deliveries and C sections. I wouldn't wish a C section on my worst enemy, NO ONE should be forced to carry a pregnancy she doesn't want. It isn't just 40 weeks of carrying on with your life and then giving the baby away. It could TAKE your life, it could destroy your health, it could leave you with scars, or even cause you to lose your uterus, making sure you willl have no more children, if things go badly enough with your delivery. PREGNANCY AND CHILDBIRTH ARE DANGEROUS. NO ONE should be forced to go through them unless they want to (and this is from the mother of four!)

    Pregnancy stops your life as you know it, and you never get it back, even if you do give the baby away to strangers. When I had my children, I knew that and was ready to give up my freedom and risk my health. A womyn who has been raped should never have to completely change and put her own health and life on the line, even more just because of some womyn hating pig rapist who impregnated her. I can't think of a better use for abortion, than rape and incest. DO YOU want to adopt a child who may have an inborn error towards violence, or whose mother got pregnant from her own father? Think about that.

    I wouldn't have an abortion (I have been pregnant in enough "inconvenient" situations to know that) but it should be legal and available for any womy who needs it.

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