Presidential Debate 2020 / effects

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TrudginAcrossTheTundra, Sep 30, 2020.

  1. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Sorry if I have upset any cult members. They're so sensitive.hahahahahaha.
     
  2. Tishomingo

    Tishomingo Members

    So Trump is a "genius"--a "stable" one, as he says? As a grifter, he's a world class genius! but do we want a world class con man to be our President? Certainly, his trail of failed business ventures and Covid victims would suggest we can do without that level of genius. In a way, Hitler was a genius, too--an Austrian corporal who became a force the whole world had to contend with. He also thought he was smarter than his generals. And look where it got him!
     
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  3. wrat1

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    I would argue reality is subjective at best , I work with dozens of small business owners they ALL LOVE Trump, you know I was a Trump defender until recently so..,. I got exactly what I expected from the shit show called a debate , I had actually hoped Biden would do better, he did not he stuttered he stammered he lost his train of thought, he gave Trump supporters ammo to rally against his ineptitude , as I said from the get go a LONG time ago neither one is truly qualified for the job at hand and we truly deserve that which we get
     
  4. Tishomingo

    Tishomingo Members

    I would argue reality is not subjective. Reality bites! I remember a discussion I had a few years back on HF with a guy who believed that physical reality was an illusion. I advised him to put it to a test by jumping off the top of a tall building. Never heard from him a again, and I always felt a bit guilty about my advice. Nothing is certain, not even that, but it's my strong suspicion that a person who does that will end up splattered on the pavement. I also know lots of Trump supporters and how they think. Most view him as their savior from the Democrat socialists who (they think) are buying the votes of freeloaders , killing unborn babies, trying to flood the country with immigrants, saying only black lives matter, and trying to get their way by rioting, burning and pillaging. I think they're out of touch with reality. We both may be wrong, but I doubt that we're both right. Trump is either a danger to democracy or he isn't. We may find out soon enough what he does if he loses the election or what a second Trump term would bring. i don't think it will be pretty.
     
  5. wrat1

    wrat1 Members

    Well here ya go
    10 People Who Survived Falling From Extreme Heights - Listverse
    A fall from 15–18 meters (50–60 ft) will prove fatal to most people. But what about 10 or 100 times that height? There have been quite a few people who have fallen and survived from just such heights. Many survived because of sheer luck and some continue to baffle scientists. Regardless, these stories will definitely make you believe miracles are possible.

    Trump IS most definitely a danger and it will be a shitshow EITHER way win or lose
     
  6. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    I offered the same advice to the physical reality guy: Obtain a three foot 2 by 4. Grasp one end of it with both hands. Raise it swiftly to contact the part of your head known as the fore. Repeat your assertion, please.
     
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  7. Tishomingo

    Tishomingo Members

    Did we watch the same debate? Relatively speaking, I think Biden did a remarkably good job given the extraordinary distractions. That would be relative to Trump's performance and that of other politicians. I've seem. I don't particularly like presidential debates, because it puts a premium on thinking on one's feet, which I don't think is the be all and end all of leadership. Eisenhower was horrible at it, but Ike was widely liked. Jefferson, who wrote so eloquently in the Declaration of Independence and other writings, was an awful public speaker who had a bad case of stage fright.
     
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  8. Tishomingo

    Tishomingo Members

    Not me. I strongly suspect there are limits to how far they can go. Let's move it up another 50-60 feet and see how they do.
     
  9. wrat1

    wrat1 Members

    Confirmation bias again, I would think being able to think on ones feet is a high priority for the most powerful man in the world (arguably) , FAKE scenario nuclear missiles are headed toward the capitol what should we do Mr President?
     
  10. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    I read a story years ago about a parachutist in the second world war whose chute did not open. He fell out of the sky, through the limbs of a tree and into a snowbank--AND LIVED!! (going to try and find that story).
     
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  11. wrat1

    wrat1 Members

    did you even LOOK at the article???
    Chris Saggers
    67 Meters (220 Ft)


    Josh Hanson
    50 Meters (160 Ft)


    Juliane Diller
    3 Kilometers (10,000 Ft)


    Shayna Richardson
    3 Kilometers (10,000 Ft)


    I can find more if you like



     
  12. wrat1

    wrat1 Members

    oh and then there is this
    Felix Baumgartner
    39 Kilometers (128,000 Ft)

    What makes Felix Baumgartner’s fall so amazing isn’t the landing (he had a parachute), but rather what happened to his body during the drop. In 2012, he became the first person to break the sound barrier, unprotected and under his own power. His 39-kilometer adrenaline rush crushed the previous record set by Joe Kittinger and reached speeds of up to 1,342 kph (834 mph). Baungartner’s body was pushed to its limits once he entered the stratosphere, as he went into a dangerous spin. The flat spin, as it’s known, has proven deadly for many, causing blood to rush to the brain due to the centripetal force.
     
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  13. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    A guy named Alan Magee plunged 22,000 feet , crashed through the roof of a railway station and LIVED. He was a belly gunner on a B17--the plane was hit and going down and he jumped without a parachute!! (google)
     
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  14. Tishomingo

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    Surely you aren't suggesting there's no physical limit beyond which a fall will be fatal.
     
  15. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed and Confused Staff Member Super Moderator

    Telling someone to shut the f up is not necessarily stooping to their level unless you do it with the same venom you are responding to.
     
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  16. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed and Confused Staff Member Super Moderator

    Confirmation bias does not apply when what you are confirming is true.
     
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  17. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed and Confused Staff Member Super Moderator

    Reality is not subjective in our day to day lives.
    Reality is.

    Biden is a stutterer. He stutters, he suffers from dysphemia. What's the big deal?
     
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  18. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member

    The author of post 38 was here a few months ago trying to stir up trouble, and I see he's back.

    After a few admonishments he left post-haste with his tail between his legs. After the November election I suspect
    he'll creep back into whatever hole-in-the-wall he crawled out from.
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2020
  19. wrat1

    wrat1 Members

    Degrees of minutia
     
  20. wrat1

    wrat1 Members

    well so far
    (128,000 Ft)
     

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