Predictability In Human Beings

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  1. Terrapin2190

    Terrapin2190 I am nature.

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    I've heard a few people mention that they believe that people (by nature, I'm assuming) are predictable. I still am unsure whether I believe this idea or not, but I'm leaning towards not, if there is in fact an answer at all to this idea.

    As my thinking goes, I think there are too many (hidden, for lack of better wording) variables at play to consider human beings to be predictable. Although, those I've heard say this didn't mention if they believe people are 'completely' predictable.

    Variable 1, It depends on how much knowledge is retained by the person claiming that people are essentially predictable.

    Variable 2, It may depend on how much routine is involved in a person's day-to-day life.

    Variable 3, It also depends on if the person claiming that others are predictable have alterior motives or are (possibly) manipulative (by nature? probably not. But possibly?)

    I had another variable in mind, but my mind seems to think at about 3 times the rate than my fingers can move :D


    What are your ideas on this? Do you think human beings are predictable? Please specify slightly, completely predictable or somewhere in between. Also, any other variables that would help prove this idea to be true or false if possible.
     
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  2. morrow

    morrow Visitor

    My x husband was predictable in his controlling manners.

    So much so, I thought someone wrote a book about him!

    Living with the Dominator.

    By Pat Craven..

    I just wish I had read the book first!
     
  3. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    predictability in of trends in large numbers is greater then that of individuals.

    aggressiveness is always a red flag, or at least almost always, and being culturally expected, well that's really a major error on the part of the culture.
     
  4. Wu Li Heron

    Wu Li Heron Members

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    Quantum Cognition is a new science that emerged in the 90s when sociologists applied quantum mechanics to the results of studied that defied classical explanation. What they discovered is that our minds do obey quantum mechanics making our default decision making process either appear random or orderly depending upon the context. It also means fuzzier logic applies with the TV game show "Let's Make a Deal" being a good example. On the show Monty Hall offers people a choice between three doors and then often proceeds to show them a booby prize behind one of the remaining doors after they've chosen one. Then he offers them a chance to trade between the two remaining doors. Classically, there is no advantage in trading because the odds are just fifty-fifty, while quantum mechanics and fuzzy logic suggest your first choice was between three doors and, therefore, more likely wrong than swapping now between the two remaining doors. It's complicated, but it means people can be either all too predictable or completely random. :)
     
  5. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    individuals can be very predictable once you get to know them well enough. other than that, not so much. groups are generally more predictable than random individuals, but both will make a lot of random decisions that no one could see coming.
     
  6. lode

    lode Banned

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    Predictability is always an illusion created by a finite frame of reference.
     
  7. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    The fuzzy logic part you mentioned, the brain just makes, creates neurons.

    When it comes to learning the brain is categorized as a back propagating neural net. Weight of input, not the inputs themselves determine that mapping.

    That is, you are more likely to learn stuff if it triggers more neural pathways. Why you never really forget how to ride a bicycle, but sometimes maybe forget your partners birthday as a crude example.

    Variable no. 4 is that shit. People are more comfortable with what they know
     
  8. YouFreeMe

    YouFreeMe Visitor

    I would say that humans are just as predictable as any other organism. Any somewhat complex organism, that is.
     
  9. Lynnbrown

    Lynnbrown Firecracker

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    Actuarial science predicts what humans will do. An actuary makes loads of money and is employed by "big" companies and if I'm not mistaken there is usually an actuary in the Cabinet of the POTUS.

    Overall, in my 59 yrs of life...the older I've become the more (depressingly) predictable I have found people to be.
     
  10. bourne1978

    bourne1978 Members

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    People that are a type can come across exactly the same.

    There are people that behave like every single negative word found in a dictionary.
     
  11. Total Darkness

    Total Darkness 100% Cocoa

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    I knew you were going to create this thread.
     
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  12. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    I agree - it's easier to predict what a group will do than an individual.

    In the case of both though, it depends on some knowledge of the group or individual concerned.
     
  13. Bud D

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    To predict anything there must be a clarity of perception. A feeling, followed by thoughts, resulting in uninterrupted perhaps interrupted outcome. It takes a viewer, someone with prior knowledge.

    Some this are simply unpredictable, unforeseen yet maybe speculated.
     
  14. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    And I predicted I was going to use the expression armchair sociologist


    Hotwater
     
  15. Wu Li Heron

    Wu Li Heron Members

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    Without knowledge awareness is impossible.
     
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  16. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    if this were true, none of would have ever come into existence.
    ideologies and beliefs manufacture unnatural predictability.
     
  17. Wu Li Heron

    Wu Li Heron Members

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    Existence reflects both the creative impetus of the Big Bang and the unescapable efficiency of a Big Crunch because a context without any content is simply a contradiction. Socrates was the first to proclaim that the only thing he knew is that he knew nothing because something and nothing, knowledge and ignorance, define one another. For anyone to even possess awareness in a paradox of existence they must first have faith that they possess awareness and, so far, nobody has ever proven to my satisfaction that life actually makes any sense. :)
     
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  18. Bud D

    Bud D Member

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    The sense of life is just for experience. Not sure how spirit gains experience but it seems to collect, although hard to prove. Can't really prove that it's not all cognitive.
     
  19. Wu Li Heron

    Wu Li Heron Members

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    A primitive tribe commonly says, "Mother nature's love is irresistible, but she has a wicked sense of humor" which describes the recursion in the law of identity or paradox of our existence. In a paradoxical universe the law of identity would be recursive explaining, for example, why a black hole doesn't have a known surface. Its identity becomes context dependent as does everything else. Quanta behave so bizarrely simply because nature cannot express metaphysical extremes which is why we can't even have a perfect vacuum. Even whether anything is mental or physical would inevitably vanish down the rabbit hole or toilet of your preference and, for example, the human mind and brain have already been documented as substituting for one another on the most basic level of their organization whenever it just happens to be what works.
     

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