Pornography isn't degrading.

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by TokeTrip, Apr 12, 2006.

  1. moon_flower

    moon_flower Banned

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    Of course age is not the issue....whether porn is degrading or not is the issue. Age is just a factor. Why would experience have anything to do with it? I know plenty of male sluts that still dig on porn....so virgin or very experienced little boy doesn't make a difference.
     
  2. moon_flower

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    It was a generalization. In my time (Of course it's ONLY 19 years) I've yet to meet a mature 16 year old male.
     
  3. TokeTrip

    TokeTrip Senior Member

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    The problem is they can't defend their opinion, so they attempt to belittle mine by suggesting it is, as a younger person's opinion, errored as opposed to a valid point. They point out my shortcomings instead of the idea's.
     
  4. moon_flower

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    I can defend my opinion. Your opinion is errored, not a valid point. Women getting fucked on film is degrading....as well as men getting fucked.
    If all the ideas you have are about porn not being degrading, you really need to get a life.
     
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  6. TokeTrip

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    Why is it any more degrading than WWE wrestling (girls vs. girls/guys vs. guys), cooking, tennis, or modern swimwear

    You haven't explained that.
     
  7. moon_flower

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    Toke....who brought that UP? If it were brought up....maybe it would have been addressed. Cooking has already been taken care of. Tennis....it's a sport, and I know few males that actually watch it. WWE and Swimsuit modeling are just as degrading....women prancing around in next to nothing for perverted men to look at and play with themselves to. It's disgusting the way some men act....
    Jester, I HAVE elaborated....I guess you skip over THOSE posts.
    ANd, hellopeople, I never said he didn't have the right to defend his opinion, I just said it was errored. Maybe you need to learn to better grasp what someone is saying before you comment on it. ;)
     
  8. heron

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    Moonflower, not that i would, but if i beat off to that lacy picture you have in your gallery, would that be degrading to you? If so, why is it there?

    Its all relative.
     
  9. the anarchist

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    When I think of countries with lots of porn, I think of Western egalitarian countries such as those of Western Europe and North America. Women in these industrialized countries have far more rights than women from Third World countries (which not only have no concept of women's rights, but probably do not even report crimes against women).

    I imagine the Islamic countries are fiercely opposed to pornography, considering it as degenerate, and yet "honor" killings and all sorts of discrimination occur against women in those countries.

    It is degrading, because porn turns people into objects.

    I imagine you have a source on the study concluding that countries with porn have higher sexual assault crime, but several questions arise: (1) the link between correlation and causation, (2) the accuracy or even existence of crime stats in certain countries, and (3) the way laws differ in various countries. These are just a few that pop up to my mind at this time.
     
  10. moon_flower

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    To women as a whole. I never said to me personally. Most porn is a little more racy than that picture, however.
    Should you decide to beat off to that picture, I'd assume you're ill or something because your wife is the sex; but no, it wouldn't be degrading to me. If it were....I wouldn't have that picture in there. ;)
     
  11. moon_flower

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    I was addressing that you said I contradicted myself....which I didn't. ;)
    My opinion is errored to him....any opinion that differs from someones personal opinion is going to seem errored, it doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to state it, but should be prepared to have the other opinions thrown at him....such as saying his opinion is errored.
     
  12. heron

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    did you just give me permission to spank to that pic? lol joking! Yes my wife is the sex, but it is a nice picture :p
     
  13. moon_flower

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    Haha.
    Thank ya.
     
  14. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    PERFECT example of the mind set of those who, somehow think porn isn't degrading. NICE THING to say to a pregnant lady, heron.

    JESUS.
     
  15. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    Porn isn't degrading, unless it's like S&M degradation porno. Hell, then people are getting off on it cause they like to be degraded. And who are you to hate on somebody else's bag? lol...

    You people are looking way too in-depth and philosophically about something that is about one thing: MONEY. Whatever sells is filmed.

    If you wanna get into social problems, look at more prominent signs of brainwashing stereotypes. You're not likely to see pornos as commercials or on billboards where the women are being "objectified."

    I don't watch porn and think "dam yea I love when that chic is degraded, and put in her place. Women are objects, and porn totally affirms that, o yea, i love it." I think that there are few people out there that do that.
     
  16. Maggie Sugar

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    Not consciously. But, the feelings are there. Otherwise there would be NO appeal to make films that degrade.
     
  17. heron

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    films that degrade, and saying that films are degrading are two different things.

    As to "degrading" films, believe it or not, some people actually like being shit on, or whipped, or getting piss in their mouth, so therefore, not degrading.
     
  18. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    Maybe I misunderstood maggie, are you telling me what turns me on lol?
     
  19. baloon

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    hmm.. from my point of view, these women are actors, it is their job that they chose. in these days, and in THIS country, there are very few cases where, for example, a girl is kidnapped, sold abroad and forced into prostitution. or, a child is sold from its rural home to a pimp who has total control over it. or, a poor starving wife chooses to become a prostitute because she MUST feed her 20 children.
    these women walk in mink coats (at least in Some coats) and are well off.
    therefore, no, it is not degrading, it is a business, and everythinr that revolves around this issue inferes money behind it. that is a very valid point and I agree with it.
     
  20. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    I don't know about sex slaves being a small business, I've heard it's a lot more prevalent in poorer countries, but porn like ya said is a totally different thing.
     

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