Pornographer sentenced to nearly four years in prison

Discussion in 'Politics' started by stalk, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. Arlandis

    Arlandis Visitor

    so what? its funny when they vomit

    If you don't like it don't watch it
     
  2. stalk

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    so many people forget that everyone is different...
     
  3. Toker4Emery

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    why is everyone failing to hear my message? You are all comparing this form of "entertainment" to something from hollywood. Sure, horror movies don't make people want to kill but there is a line between fake and real and porn is real. People aren't actually slashing actors in horror movies, but people are really getting mock raped in some porn movies, such as the ones were talking about. It is real, and people know that it is real and it lowers the bar for reality vs. fantasy. Fantasy can be carried out to reality and exciting the fantasy in an individual by allowing them to indulge in such behavior CAN affect their judgment. These types of things have the power to negatively affect society, and if you choose to dismiss that, you just aren't looking it the way i do. and that's fine.. but i just wish you would take a step back, and look at who you are supporting. Watch a video of his if you dont believe what you read. It's all very true and very real and acting just isn't totally defined in these films. An unexperienced porn actress can only fake real tears and fake struggle so much. If you think they have enough acting experience to pull off convincing enough emotionalism, then you dont know anything about porn films. The girls in many porn films really are manipulated. How hard is that to understand. Do you really have that much respect for the porn industry to dismiss that?
     
  4. stalk

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    Are you not aware that these kinds of fantasies have been played out for a long time?

    Think about the pain rituals some tribes have.
    Think about medieval torture.

    Porn isn't detrimental to society...that is such a whack observation.

    There are many people who enjoy this stuff, regardless of what you believe Emery.
     
  5. Toker4Emery

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    i do not believe that porn itself has the power to do harm to society.
    I do however believe that mock-rape porn most definitely has the power to desensitize one's already corrupt mind because it is about violence, not sex but the sex is what is separating fantasy from reality.
    And most people who get excited by the fantasy of mock-rape should in theory have a higher tendency to get excited by the reality of real rape.
     
  6. stalk

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    well, you're wrong...I've known plenty of women that had the rape fantasy who have never been raped and never ever want to be raped in reality.

    Fantasy, my friend.
    That's all it is.
     
  7. Toker4Emery

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    i'm talking about the people who already have a corrupt mind and i am primarily talking about the predator (the male) not the victim.
     
  8. stalk

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    It can go both ways.
    Sure, there are sick fucks out there
    but at least they can get their fix online, rather than the street.

    Wasn't there a recent study that proved this was the case?
     
  9. Toker4Emery

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    sure, but how could such a study possibly be legit?

    we're getting off topic here, my original statement was that it is wrong to support the rights of someone who clearly did not give a shit about his rights as he did little to protect them.
     
  10. depoisoned

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    Just checking the status of the argument…

    Seems like a bunch of people think they are smarter than the 12 men and women on the jury who actually had to make this decision.

    The jury didn’t wrestle with these same issues, because “they” aren’t as “smart” as you?
    None of “them” care about rights?

    Bullshit. Arrogant bullshit.
     
  11. stalk

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    awwww is someones feelings hurt?

    it'll be okay...

    and besides, this is a FORUM

    we discuss this STUFF

    we are not the JURY

    lol, depoisoned you're fucking hilarious.
     
  12. Toker4Emery

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    well put, and very realistic. i have a feeling that the people arguing the decision made by the jury don't believe they had the political prowess that they themselves claim to possess.
    he was given a fair trial and found guilty. his rights were not enough to protect him which proves that he most likely didn't have the rights to do what he was doing in the first place.
     
  13. stalk

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    Think about this.

    Why was he even in court? Who brought him there?

    You think the courts decided to bring him in?

    Nope....think again...
     
  14. Toker4Emery

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    so your not trying to argue against the jury's decision?
     
  15. stalk

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    Dude...of course I am.

    This isn't about intelligence, it's about opinion.

    :rolleyes:
     
  16. Toker4Emery

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    regardless, you have to admit this has been quite the healthy discussion lol

    although you might as well debate something like abortion because something like this will always have 2 sides wherever you go
     
  17. stalk

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    Yeah I'm well aware of that by now...everyone either thinks this ruling was absurd, or he deserved it. which is very interesting.
     
  18. Toker4Emery

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    that's why i think im giving up lol it's one of those things which neither side can really prove it's statement when it comes down to it so it is a never-ending debate.
     
  19. maryjohn

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    Maybe you should start with questions, instead of reaching for the first conclusion your gut grumbles for. You could serve yourself well by learning why "all this legal shit" is important and affects all of us.
     
  20. Toker4Emery

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    so then im assuming you went to law school?
     

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