Porn making guys feel entitled to things?

Discussion in 'Free Love' started by nonco55, Sep 1, 2010.

  1. fragility-1523

    fragility-1523 Member

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    And so the relationship ends... does this sound like anything too serious? If you don't want to sexually experiment and your lover does , I think that's a fair and valid reason to end the relationship. If he's looking for fun, and you're looking for love then breaking up is probably the best thing to do. What I'm saying is, I've never seen a man leave the girl he loves because of it.
     
  2. WanderingturnupII

    WanderingturnupII Grouchy Old Fart

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    These women have been the whore's bread & butter since they have walked the streets of Nineveh & Tyre. There's a Latin word, Fellatrix, a whore who specializes in giving head. I am certain that these ancient professionals could have made much use of, say, xvideos, but let's not blame Modern Man's Quest for the Perfect Blow Job on that. I think it's rather the Biological Imperative. Men compete for mates by variations on the theme of "I'm better at taking care of the kids" and "If you look at my woman like that again, I'm a-gonna bust your skull". Women compete for men by variations on the theme of "I have longer eyelashes, shiner nails, bigger tits, and will fuck you in ways she hasn't even thought about". Just look at the cover of Cosmo.
     
  3. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    rofl!!


    but i feel that am not that crazy about given deep throat or anal but oral is a must.
     
  4. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    I thought of whores, myself. Not to mention that, strictly speaking, porn is only that: a form of prostitution.

    I just don't see the issue, personally. If someone wants to break up for whatever reason, then do it. There are men and women who are more sexually conservative, and those who aren't --- like any other difference and/or commonality.

    Seek your match.
     
  5. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    I also suspect that a woman who does not like anal and blow jobs would have many other incompatibilities with myself in other, non-sexual, areas.

    E.g., tolerance for risk, independence level, future vs. moment orientation, physically active vs. sedentary, etc.
     
  6. nonco55

    nonco55 Member

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    With the first story I brought up, and with the second... well many of them. It isn't because they are afraid to do it, or are "conservative", it's just that they simply do not enjoy the experience. I don't really see how all those other factors affect what one enjoys or doesn't enjoy doing. And how does that say that she doesn't share other non-sexual interests with you?

    I don't enjoy spaghetti, it's not because of my level of fitness, or because I'm "close minded".
     
  7. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    I disagree. Its very simple to say "no," even in the heat of the moment. A woman that can't say no is a woman that doesn't feel very good about herself. Case in point: my ex boyfriend always tried to get me to try anal. Anal sex is something that doesn't turn me on at all, so I said no. He didn't feel entitled; he loved me and respected my decision. There were plenty of other things I was willing to try because I enjoy pleasing my partner. But i draw the line at things that completely turn me off, because whats the point if he's turned on and i'm turned off? My boyfriend understood this. It didn't cause problems.

    haha you're right. I forgot about all the times my cabana boy, gardener, and electrician all stop by at once for anal, vaginal, and oral sex (by the way.....most porn is marketed towards men, so what the hell is up with porn that shows one women and 20 guys surrounding her with their dicks hard and ready?? Do guys really get off from the sight of all these penises?? i dont get it...but i digress)

    Every guy I've been with is always more focused on pleasing me than getting pleasure. Every porno I've watched definitely focuses more on the guy's fulfillment, but I really don't think this carries over to real life..maybe with one night stands that don't mean anything, but not when you're dealing with serious relationships. I think most guys are very eager to please, at least judging from my personal experiences.


    well, like I said, most porn is marketed towards men. It makes sense that in a man's fantasy life they are mainly focused on their pleasure. Its their fantasy, after all. When I fantasize while i'm masturbating, its all about me and my pleasure haha. That doesn't mean that its going to be like that when i'm sharing the bed with a man, and i'm sure the same is true of most men.

    I have yet to see porn made specifically for women, but I hear its out there and I'm sure its much more focused on the woman's pleasure.

    yeah but thats all bullshit much in the way that advertising is bullshit. This is kind of reminding me of how, after Columbine, everything but the parents were blamed...Marilyn Manson got shit, the media got shit. Everything but the true factors that affect a kids' psyche was blamed. People can only be exploited if they're weak enough to be exploited and who wants to have sex with a man thats weak anyways?! I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that when men or women have unhealthy views of sex, its probably related more to the way they were raised than what they've seen in porn. Like I said before, men that are mentally healthy will be able to seperate fantasy from reality.

    I agree. I think sex is one of the most important aspects of a relationship. If there isn't fire in the bedroom there probably isn't fire anywhere else in the relationship. I've been in a relationship where I was completely unsatisfied sexually, and it led to the downfall of the relationship. But the fact is, the reason I was unsatisfied sexually is because other elements were not there. Communication, for instance. I couldn't communicate to my ex that I wanted certain things in bed. I also couldn't communicate pretty much anything else.

    If a man truly loves a woman, he isnt going to break up with her because she won't give him anal. But if two people are madly in love, the sex is more than likely going to reflect that. When two people are in love, the simplest positions in bed can be elevated to something mind-blowing because of the chemistry between them. When things are sour in bed more than likely things are sour everywhere else in the relationship also.

    I also agree that the ideal relationships involve people that are not only mentally compatible but sexually compatible as well.

    nonco, I respect your opinion because I've often thought the same thing myself. I think porn is ridiculously unrealistic. I'm sure a lot of men take fantasies they see in porn and attempt to make them a reality. But I think you're looking at it from the point of view that these men manipulate women and try to make them feel like they have to do whatever a man wants, and thats just not true. A woman can ALWAYS say no. If a man decides to find someone else that will help make his fantasies a reality, that doesn't neccessarily make him an asshole. It just means the two people weren't compatible in the first place.
     
  8. WanderingturnupII

    WanderingturnupII Grouchy Old Fart

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    Prostitute is a fancy Latin word for whore. Pornography is Latin for writings about whores. Modern Internet porn it barely a blip on the radar screen of human sexual behavior.
     
  9. AznMom

    AznMom Member

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    I suck off my husband all the time but i don't get any in return. Am i supposed to stop then?
     
  10. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    if you want something in return and he refuses to give it to you, then..yeah. I would stop. Thats just selfish. If you enjoy it and don't mind that he doesnt give you anything in return, then keep on with the keepin' on!
     
  11. Bonkai

    Bonkai Later guys

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    Well you've taken my point and made it better :)
     
  12. sadist

    sadist Banned

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    only a chick would ask this.
     
  13. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    Do you edit footage for the news? You managed to avoid any of my comments about women magazines at all. Have you ever read Playboy or Penthouse? From your comments probably not. I actually find the articles on politics, Gang violence on Indian Reservations, Music reviews, and non erotic fiction to be quite enlightening. As a matter of fact when I was in Highschool (when do you graduate by the way?) we had to read a short story (yes I can and do read at a very high level btw) written my Isaac Asimov about wanting to meet Pablo Picasso. It was a very good read too. The teacher got it from a pulitzer prize winning story anthology. I found the same story years later in an anthology of short stories written for Playboy.

    I read on Project Censored's website a couple of years ago a story about Depleted Uranium Anti-Tank Rounds and about how they are Illegal Weapons of Mass destruction. The reporter who wrote the story was a very well respected journalist and they only publication who had the brass Cajones to print the story was Hustler.

    You claim that you are not against pornography when I haven't heard you once say anything positive about porn or the people that enjoy it. You write like you've just read your first Gloria Steinham book and can't think for yourself yet. and then after you couldn't even come up with a remotely intelligent retort you had to bring some blatent type of Homophobia comment in. The last time I checked my Fiancee had a vagina. She also writes erotica about being fucked in the ass. She even ehjoys getting fucked in the ass. She loves French films especially the works of Catherine Breillat who I think is about the only director that can film unsimulated sex and have it be damn near as unstimulating as anything that John Stagliano has ever put out (except for Tristan Taorminos Ultimate Guide to Anal Sex for Women me and the missus give it 2 thumbs up). Hell they even share a fondness for Rocco Seffredi. The difference is that Breillat is actually a respected director who has won academy awards and shit. But we do agree that Bertolucci has done alot of fantastic work.

    And adding insult to injury it isn't pun that The Imaginary Being has been throwing at you it is SARCASM. Pun is when you use words that are similar in place of each other for example. This guy was driving down the street while knitting a sweater the police pull out next to him and the cop screams Pull over, Pull over. The guy looks at them and says, "It's not a pullover it's a sweater." Sarcasm is when I tell you "Shit you are a really great writer."

    Peace Out,
    Rev J

    (that was just Ironic)
     
  14. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    Oh and by the way. I don't feel entitled to anything my fiancee does for me or allows me to do for her. I do feel gratefull as all fuck.

    Peace Out,
    Rev J
     
  15. sobebella

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    thats because the guys are(generally) the ones with thoughts of entitlement.
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    i think porn does to some people make them feel they are dominate and therefore entitled to the sexual act of their choice, but those people are generally the more selfish/stupid/easily impressionable people, where the problem is not the porn but the persons personality. its like people saying violent video games make people violent. no, violent people are just violent, and they see then choose to do.
     
  16. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    Porn makes me and my girl kinky =D
     
  17. daralicious

    daralicious Member

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    omg what isnt fun about sex, bjs, a bit of bondage, even anal, its all real fun, with porn or with out it,but i do like porn for new ideas. its a good teacher. but a guy or girl shouldnt expect anything that thier partner is against. if you love some one you respect thier bounderies
     
  18. JonsonB

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    This is a little cunter productive... Let me explain.

    If you want girl to see in you " THE ONE " that she dreamed about, prince in shine armor, man that makes her dreams come true, you need to give her best pleasure possible. Many girls dont like anal and bj*s, rolepalying, dirty talk, becouse " society in global " ( their parents, media.. ) told her that if she behave like that she will be labeld as " slutt "...

    So manny girls repress their inner freakiness some where down in some deeper part of mind. And thez potray inocent and lady attitude.

    I yet didnt founded girl that dont have that " slutty " side, some have it really kinky, others little, but there are allways " social conndicions " that you, as a MAN, need to talk with her. And help her to pass that shit behinde while shes enjoying you and her.

    So one of ways to be sure that she will see you as " the ONE " is for you to give her pleasure as nobody ever did. So it usualy meens to fuck her in ass if nobody done that, or something like that. What ever is her boundrie, you too need to cross it... BEcouse thatn, you as a MAN, will be sourse off that new pleasurble thing in her life.

    But no force or arogance with this approuch. Allways prepare her, while enjoying sex, just slipp finger couple of times for her to see it.

    Little by little, and work your way for her pleasure.

    Mens have boundries, Girls have enjoyyment of Mens boundries.

    If you know how to take her, she will follow.
     
  19. tiny

    tiny Member

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    Thank you for typing what i dont have the time to post.
     
  20. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    I do get what you're saying, but there is a boundary and there is a limit.

    When my girlfriend was inexperienced and scared to suck my cock, that was a bit of a boundary, and I convinced her to give me a blowjob for Christmas. Now, she loves sucking cock; but it still took me a long time before figuring out if a bit of cum sharing was a boundary or a limit -- and if it was a limit, that would've been a horrible thing to press.
     

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