poor people should not have children!

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Inquiring-Mind, May 28, 2006.

  1. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

    I think you should be required to have a job at least
  2. squawkers

    squawkers Member

    somewhere in this thread...(sorry I ain't going back to find out who said it first) education was mentioned. what the heck ever happened to free public education...guess it is as long as you don't include $$$ for hot lunches, school bookbags (big enough to hold all the books & pencils) locks for lockers, $$$ for art or science class supplies, fieldtrips, music lessons, school pictures & class rings.

    How old are most people when they go to college???? I assume over 18....that makes u an adult. Why do adults ask parents to pay for education or anything else? Either go to a cheaper college, go to a job corps place, become an apprentice & get "on-the-job-training" or something
  3. YankNBurn

    YankNBurn Owner

    college is not the parents obligation true but most parents wish to give thier child any advantage they can in life.
  4. stebo32

    stebo32 amanita monster

    ya well.. its not always easy for a student to get good education while working minimum wage. ye work a little = not alot of cash BUT grades are good, ye work too much = lots of cash, "but hey man whats that? im failing a few classes, woah, guess that crappy job will be mine for a few more years then expected"...

    usually education is more of the parent's will for their children to be succesful, in a way it is their responsibility .
  5. indian~summer

    indian~summer yo ho & a bottle of yum

    i mentioned college and parents have alot of effect on their children when it comes to college
    paying for college comes after you've gotten in
    if you have had a hard childhood that fucks up your chances of getting in
    it fucks up grades it fucks up their minds
  6. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

    hey, that is a shitty thing to say, don't discriminate, lots of people rise up against adversity
  7. Bloody_Kisses

    Bloody_Kisses Thizzler

    I totally agree.
    im not saying you have to be rich, but i am not going to raise my kids how i was raised. all my friends & relatives who are female began to have kids in their mid teens. and i feel bad for each and every one of those babies, all of them will grow up hating their mother & with no father. im not having a kid until i can suppot one financially, even though i know i probably wont be ready until im about thirty.
  8. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

    people shouldn't have children

    (guess the question for some is then, are poor folks people? oi)
  9. indian~summer

    indian~summer yo ho & a bottle of yum

    i didn't mean to offend anyone
    i just know alot of people that had really bad things happen to them and it just angers me that there isn't enough help for them
    yes there are people that rise against it
  10. YankNBurn

    YankNBurn Owner

    I think I will revert to my original post and get out of this loose loose situation... runs real fast....
  11. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

    I think I know more people that were well off then wasted their lives than people who started out real shitty and only got worse (people form the projects not included, but that's welfare's fault)
  12. missfontella

    missfontella Mama of Da Assassins

    actually living in the "projects" and recieving welfare for the last 3 years enabled me to get my degree.

    truth is, people are people. some rich people are hard working and decent because they just ARE! other rich people toot daddy's money up their nose and never work a day because that is who they are. same idea with poor people

    to those that feel that the poor should not have children, what about me? I had money and a job when i got pregnant but the pregnancy made me sick and jobless. So when I lost my truck driving job and became poor, should my children have been taken away? i'm pregnant now and poor but i have a engineering degree that will eventually secure a good job.

    look youngins, life is almost never black and white. some of the smartest people in the world know first and foremost that they don't know shit.

    children shouldn't be neglected, they should be nutured, loved, cared for, and taught. as long as that happens, who cares HOW it happens
  13. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

    no, I agree that welfare is good in many cases, my dad ddin't get the medicare that he needed when he got diabetes (my grandma sued, got me and my sister extra money from social security), and he needed the welfare to survive
    but the welfare system is royally fucked, and in many (I would even go as far as to say the majority of) cases it is just exploited
  14. HippyLandscaper

    HippyLandscaper learning a new way

    There is a difference between being driven and having everything handed to you
  15. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

    Amen to that.

    Having to work for what you have reinforces values. Being handed everything tends to foster an attitude of entitlement.
  16. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

  17. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

    a lot of people also become victims......
  18. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

    Not any job, children are expensive and have needs and wants. You can't just pop them out into the world.
  19. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

    Yep, poverty leads poor education. education is beyond just the public school system.

    to get books you need money
    to learn you need an environment that supports and encourages learning, which most poor children don't have.

    The cycle goes round and round. On the other hand, poor children do make good workers so where will the rich be without them?
  20. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

    Guys it is the truth, money is everything because we live in a money world. If you did not have money you would not have the computer you use now and will not be able to have internet access.

    To say money is not important is delusion. You need money (for almost everything) to offer your children a good start in life, a good education, food, health, medicine, shelter (energy, water, and gas bills), choices, and mobility.

    In most cases being poor (not having a lot of money) leads to poor everything.

    Love is free but the things that will keep your children alive, healthy, active, sheltered, and educated are not.

    The past and future require different needs.

    Some material things are necessities, while many are wants (that make you happy or whatever) that poor children can learn to live without.

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