Politics: Are the right becoming irrelevant?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Jul 6, 2020.

  1. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    I keep an eye on right wing websites new and old and it’s becoming increasingly obvious that the right have lost their way they don’t seem to have anything to contribute; the things they seem so concerned about seem blow out of all proportion, or trivial or even imaginary.

    But seemingly in a state of delusion they seem please with themselves for being so clever while being so vacuous.

    In a world in which there is ongoing death, disease, hardship, poverty, inequality, environmental degradation and corruption they big concerns seem petty and hollow.

    It seems to me that many on the right don’t want to discuss real problems because they either like the things the way they are, don’t believe the problems exist, or know deep down that their ideas are no good.

    I suppose that is why so many seek out places where discussions are boringly simplistic and where they feel they can shine within mediocracy the reason I suppose why Fox news is so popular on the right or conspiracy theories to prevalent.

    I feel sorry for them they are sad sad people that have nothing of good to contribute to their society they just have their bile, bitching and their hate, lacking in solutions, insights or empathy, if anything they are the problem, a cancer eating away at American society.

    Are right wing views becoming irrelevant as a source for tackling real world problems and instead becoming a threat to US modernity and progress?

    And if so is there anything the right can do to make themselves relevant again?
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  2. Talking about left and calling it right??? :-o

    "cancer eating away at American society" would be protecting the Constitution and the government designed by the founders, or would it be trying to uproot them and replace them?

    Food for thought... Yeah, I know, it's falling on deaf ears and like trying to teach a pig to sing. :-/
  3. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

    Republicans are fascists now. Not really American and your statements on "protecting" things line up with that.
  4. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

    I see it as being pretty lonely and upsetting to be a Republican. They never really get what they want long term the culture always moves on they at best drag their feet and after a few decades act like they never objected to to the thing in the first place.

    The idea is now so old it's almost "conservative" now. It's because on an actual scientific level the conservative brain does not think like the liberal brain. The panic sections work a lot more so this is probably why they are so afraid of change and why they get even more upset if you are not feeling the same. As far they as they see it a brown person is a lion charging at them so if you will not stop the lion you are as bad as the lion.

    Evolution does not want change. You eat the same things, go the same places etc. They also seem to struggle with gray areas. A switch is either on or off so they struggle with modern debates.

    This is the party that once said a man was unfit to be president because his tax policy could NOT fit on 1 side of a note card. Also the party that hates the very concept of an education. Maybe those 2 are related?

    The best thing they can do is learn what socialism really is and how you can be extremely right wing patriotic and still socialist. If they hope to be around in 20 years they need to call the rich out and make a plan as to how they can paint themselves as the only party that loves America while doing that through tax.

    Their extreme capitalism has failed and right now they depend on apathy and corruption. Everyone knows if voting was easy the right wing would not win anything in America beyond rural governorships.
  5. Oh, you're an "expert" now??? ROTFLMFACO!

    I say we wall off all the people who believe that crap and let them fend for themselves, like an independent country. Then we'll see how things go!!!
  6. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

    First as long as you are a Republican you can not believe education is good. College is bad and all experts lie so by your own logic me simply reading and writing means I am a smart enough to know everything.

    And right now I live in a country that is EVERYTHING the GOP hates. You can't own a gun unless it's something truly for hunting and even then it's not as easy as America. None of this Ar-15 nonsense. Taxes are high and even higher if you are a CEO or Amazon type. The tax pays for things that don't directly help you. For example you might not need a hospital but your work paid for someone else to go. There are hate speech laws and being Muslim is fine. Pretty much any politician will not be ashamed to say they are socialist in some way.

    Literally dozens of countries already exist like this. It's your American bubble of arrogance that makes it seem impossible. You are the one suffering right now with your hardcore capitalism and selfish nature. I guess you have to lie to yourself and think you are doing the best possible or it's depressing?

    And people love it here. So I would gladly call your bluff especially when you consider that the red voting states depend on the income of blue. Simply put Democratizes don't need rural areas and as much as the rural areas bitch they are helpless without big goverment aid and population centers.

    States that voted for Trump depend the most on ‘big government’
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  7. Idlewild

    Idlewild Members

    When did the right ever have good solutions? They have a long, sordid history of corporatism and fascist policies.
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  8. erofant

    erofant Members

    So you think it's OK for a president to obstruct justice and ignore Congressional oversight???? If you do ………………. you have NO belief in the Constitution!!! The founders set up a 3-branch government to serve as checks & balances on each other - not a "president rules all" government, and what he / she says goes with no questions.

    That's the very type of government this country was formed to ESCAPE ………... the one-person monarchy of England !!!!!
    Where is that unfocusedanakin??
  9. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

    Belgium, the only thing I miss about America is the speed limits. The gas prices and speed are the "freedom" I long for.
  10. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

    Balbus speaks to the mirror , then presents to us the mirage . Oh , Fascism . So it is viewed .
  11. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator


    The society and governance set up by the founding fathers allowed for slavery and only around 10% of the population could vote so it was basically slave owning oligarchy - is that what you’d want?

    That society and governance did get uprooted and replaced, I personally think it was for the better – slavery was abolished and even women and black people got the vote – maybe you think differently.

    But I think improvements could be made or maybe you don’t if so why not - do you think there are no problems in the US today?
  12. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    My argument is that the vocal right wingers of today don’t seem to have solutions to the problems the US and the world are facing today and in the future.

    And if they don’t have solutions then they have become irrelevant to or even a burden on society holding back others from initiating the needed changes.

    Have trud and tikoo got solutions, no, have any other right wingers – well it seems not.

    It seems to me that right wingers have just given up debating or even thinking about solutions because they know they can’t - they’d prefer to retreat into their echo chambers and post juvenile memes at each other. It’s become all a bit sad – yet they feel entitled to have a voice and a vote although they have nothing of any worth to say and nothing of any substance to vote for - all they seem to have is their grievances and hates.

    It’s all a bit pathetic and tragic.
  13. "In the end, the homicide rate in the CHAZ turned out to be 1,216 per 100,000—nearly 50 times greater than Chicago’s. Though that’s obviously not a strict apples-to-apples comparison—the small sample size of the CHAZ creates an exaggerated statistical effect—it’s instructive nonetheless, as it invalidates the entire premise of the autonomous zone. By instituting a “police-free zone,” the CHAZ didn’t become peaceable; it became lawless, brutish, and violent."

    The End of Chaz | City Journal

  14. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator


    So what has that got to do with this thread? It seems irrelevant


    For fairness sake I would point out that the author of the piece is Christopher F. Rufo of the Discovery Institute which is a bit of a wacky right wing think tank so this is not coming from a completely unbiased direction.

    A more nuanced article can be found here

    The violent end of the Capitol Hill Organized Protest, explained
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2020
  15. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Loose an election
  16. You got a lot of growing up and learning to do!

    Try looking at a spectrum of news and opinion sources instead of the one-sided clearly leading you astray.
  17. That's an answer to the question you quoted above it??? :frowning::openmouth::unamused:
  18. FTFY
  19. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator


    Sorry but you do realise we know you, we know how ill-informed you are, so to say things like this just make us laugh.

    I mean are you truly so lacking in self-awareness that you think your comments come across as mature and informed?

    Why not actually enter into honest debate and you might actually get to learn something for example, can you answer any of the questions I gave you?
  20. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator


    We have been through this and last time you ran away because you had not counter arguments to the criticisms of your Social Darwinist based thinking.

    As shown last time it doesn’t stand up to scrutiny – have you got any counter arguments or are you going to run again?

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