Pledge Of Allegiance

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by The Instinct, Jul 20, 2007.

  1. gshdgns

    gshdgns Member

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    Why pledge? Just do. Help those in need. Stand up for injustices. Do what is right. Be human and humane. Do not hate. Love those you have never met. We do not need a pledge, we just need to do. A wedding vow does not make a marriage last, a commitment does, be committed to doing what is right.
     
  2. fanoffloyd1992

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    ^wow youreally need to think about being a poet. that was just amazing
     
  3. gshdgns

    gshdgns Member

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    Just saying what I feel man.
     
  4. fanoffloyd1992

    fanoffloyd1992 Member

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    well you're good at it
     
  5. The Instinct

    The Instinct Member

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    all in all, what you said is the intention I mean.
     
  6. Julie Bukowski

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    I like that.
     
  7. VegOut024

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    That's good. My thoughts exactly. Thanks for giving me a way to sum them up. lol
     
  8. Lady Neko

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    i pledge allegence to my family, friends, and my life and how i believe i shall lead and it.
     
  9. Spiderweb Sitar

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    My entire English class (first period/homeroom) didn't say the pledge this past year.
    None of us believe in it. Our teacher (the principal) gave us the option of standing and saying it or not, and we all chose to remain seated (and usually silent). It was so moving to know that so many of America's youth care.
     
  10. comfortablly_numb420

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  11. VegOut024

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    well, I don't have anything against pledging allegience to something, but you should be able to pick what it is, you shouldn't be forced to pladge to something, like how your ridiculed if you just sit their in class instead of saying the pledge
     
  12. The Instinct

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  13. MattInVegas

    MattInVegas John Denver Mega-Fan

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    I think the answer to that (imho) is that it is not taught in Public Schools anymore. I grew up reciting it every morning in school.) Until about the 6th grade.
     
  14. rebelfight420

    rebelfight420 Banned

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    they make us stand up and if we dont we get DUN DUN DUN lunch detention!!!! *gasp*
     
  15. hannahannahannah

    hannahannahannah What's a Palindrome?

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    This, I completely agree with. Yes, the ideals of the allegiance are supposed to be admirable. That's what we're taught. I didn't know what the hell I was reciting when I was 5, 10, 15 years old. You just did it because you were told to.

    Kids should never have to recite this, they aren't given any power at all, so why make them take an oath? They're supposed to have a chance to be free young spirits, not pledging to some machine they have no real concept of. If the govn't needs pledging to, get it from adults, not kids who don't know what the words mean. Hell, all we wanted to do was play at lunch. We'd long forgotten the words we said first thing in the morning, nor did we care.

    And before I met Mr. Wonderful, I'd never heard anyone say (maybe because most of us don't think about it because it's so "rote"?) he told me "I will never pledge an oath to the country or any company." And of course I got the 50 minute dissertation on why. ;)
     
  16. The Instinct

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    So I guess now my question should be, why can't us adults be commited, pledge, take an oath, however you want to say it to doing what's right? Are we that high up on greed, corruption, segragation/separation of the people, etc. to allow it to happen everyday? Makes one wonder because it does happen everyday and I see it everywhere I go.
     
  17. Drakena

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    At my high school, if you don't wish to say the pledge of allegiance you don't have to. i never did, and it's not because i don't believe in god. in middle school and elementary school, you were given detention or had recess taken away for not saying it. i don't like seeing children recite words they don't know the meaning to. it's not right. the children don't know what they're pledging allegiance to. if i knew what i was pledging allegiance to when i was in first grade, i would have never even bothered learning the pledge because i would've never recited it anyway.
     
  18. plaidbasser

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  19. hailtothekingbaby

    hailtothekingbaby Yowzers!

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    Pledging allegiance to 'your' country is nothing but blind nationalism and as anything that reeks of nationalism, it must be destroyed utterly.

    There is no America; there is only the Earth. Just like there are no Americans; there are only humans.
     
  20. Julie Bukowski

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    My first day back at school this year, I was actually yelled at for not saying the pledge by a teacher. He was inches away from my face and absolutely livid.

    Sure, I've had my fair share of strange looks or muttered words thrown my way, but I have NEVER been yelled at for expressing freedom of choice.

    New experience I suppose. Oh well.
     

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