Pledge of Allegiance Becomes Pledge to Obama

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by hippiehillbilly, Jan 28, 2009.

  1. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

    I have read similar stories several times on other boards of this type of thing taking place but this is the first story ive seen on it..

    Pledge of Allegiance Becomes Pledge to Obama

    A parent in the Clark County School District of Las Vegas, Henderson area reported today that his son, who is in 1st grade, came home yesterday saying that he didn't want to go back to school anymore. When asked why, the boy said that during the Pledge of Allegiance the teacher put up a large image of Obama next to the flag.
    Thinking that the boy might be exaggerating, the man asked his son if he was sure, and suggested that by "large" he might mean an 8x10 photo of the president. The boy apparently said "No, it is a large picture of Obama and when we are done, the teacher turns off the image."
    The same thing was not done for President Bush last year.
    After investigating this morning, the other parent reported that what the boy said was true.
    At least three of the five classrooms have an overhead projector and as the children stand to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, the teacher turns on the classroom overhead and a full body image of Obama, with six U.S. flags behind him, comes up about 4 feet away from the flag that hangs on the wall. The screen is apparently around five feet by six feet.
    In the image, President Obama appears to be staring straight out with no facial expression, just a serious look. All of the kids in each class faced the President, instead of the flag that hangs in the corner.
    Local parents are up in arms over this situation. Teachers clearly do not realize the gravity of what they are doing.


    then there is this,


    Obama curriculum a hit with students

    I am certainly glad my children are grown and out of school. the indoctrination has begun..:mad:
     
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    That is sickening, but not surprising. These are some very interesting times to say the absolute very least.
     
  3. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

    It's all moving so quickly...
     
  4. HawaiianEye

    HawaiianEye Member

    The teacher should be fired.---It's really disturbing how some people and the media are putting Obama on such a pedestal.And I don't understand why.He is 'just a man' who has yet to prove he will do any good.
     
  5. HawaiianEye

    HawaiianEye Member

    By the way,is this teacher black by any chance? Or just an idiot.
     
  6. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

    I have no idea. however as i have stated i have read several,(at least 3) other instances similar to this posted by parents on other boards in the last few days..

    i am hesitant to elaborate as they are just posts on forums. however i personally tend to believe them to be true and this seems to validate the other stories.
     
  7. HawaiianEye

    HawaiianEye Member

    Well,if I had a kid in a class where a teacher did that,the next day I would demand my kid be put in a different classroom with a different teacher.The more I see how some people are putting Obama on such a high pedestal,the less I like him already.
     
  8. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas


    Down in K.C. they do things a lil different

    Obama Youth Regiment < YouTube Link.


    For those of you on 56k, here's the lyrics

     
  9. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

    That's disgusting. Why on earth would you make little children pledge allegiance to America?

    They're just children.
     
  10. Fawkes

    Fawkes Member

    Ari, I can see where you are coming from, brainwashing children ain't cool, but they are AMERICAN citizens!! And we Pledge Alligiance to our country because we love it. And, I have never heard of pledging allegiance to the flag of the United States of America with a HUGE picture of a president, especially a new, radical, president, right there on the screen.

    And I have been pledging allegiance to my country since I can remember. If you live somewhere you should learn to love that place.

    You know what is disgusting; Madrassas in Pakistan taking starving 5 year old children off the street, feeding and cleaning them and bringing them back to health (That is all good) and then brainwashing their impressionable 5 year old minds to believe that the Quran states that all who do not believe in Allah are infidels and must die. Then teaching these young children that to die while killing an infidel (LIKE US, LIKE YOU AND ME, ARI!!!!!) means you go to heaven and get to spend eternity in paradise and that you get 72 virgins.

    THAT is disgusting, Ari. No, that is FUCKED UP!!!!!!

    Now, I don't hate muslims, please understand. I don't even hate the children that hate us, I just believe that they are brainwashed. But, adults that will kill a jew, hindu or christian at every chance, Ari, I hate them more than a kidney stone.

    You know what is disgusting; Orphanages in Mumbai going into the dumps, giving the little kids sleeping there food and shelter (That is all good) then training them to be beggars and (This is where it gets fucked up) scarring some of them so that they can get more money based on the pity factor.

    Again, THAT is fucked up. Actually, I will admit, I know that orphanages recruit from the slums and dumps, but I didn't know about the scarring until I saw Slumdog Millionaire. But it makes perfect sense. I will have to do research on that. The rest of what I said is based on verifiable fact.

    And you say it is disgusting to teach our children to love our country.

    Aristartle, I love debating with you, because I like the intellectual stimulation, and I have just done a lot of research on socialism in Europe and have composed a response in MS Word. I also just read your comment where you asked me if the terrorists were being released because the US Authority over them was outside the US Constitution, or some stupid comment, and I was thinking about how to respond to that. But this, Aristartle, this is a new low, even for a lib.

    I don't hate, Ari, I don't hate people for their thoughts. I have to make that clear, because people tend to change what I say. I would take you out for a beer, if you could dig out from the 8 feet of snow under which you are probably buried up there in Ontario. I hate people for their actions, when the hate is merited. Child molesters, suicide bombers that blow up buses, rapists, murderers, and hate criminals. I've got friends that were appaled to learn that I am a conservative, because I don't talk about politics in normal everyday life.

    But, you, Ari, have seriously got your politics on sideways.

    To say that it's disgusting to say the Pledge of Allegiance?!?!!?!?!!?!? Get The Fuck Outta Here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Damn, I went off on a tangent, didn't I.

    Sorry, hippie, I kind of jacked your thread there. Ari just pissed me off. He tends to do that. But I like the way he makes me think.
     
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  12. marblegallery

    marblegallery Member

    man, that is fucked up, all of it is..
     
  13. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

    oh thats quite alright,i dont mind,you can even make a conspiracy out of it if ya want to. i wont tell the mods...:rolleyes:
     
  14. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

    EXCELLENT reply, Fawkes! :cheers2:
     
  15. Fawkes

    Fawkes Member

    Aristartle, the point I was trying to make (I just realized that I have to add this statement) is that we pledge allegiance, because we love our country, and we like our kids to appreciate the great things that we have here, the freedoms (Well, thosee are gone now) and the freedom from tyranny (HAHAHAA!!), whereas kids in places like India and Pakistan grow up with nothing. And there desire to get things like, ummm, food drives them to extremes.

    We have a comfy life in North America. We need to realize that. You said something a while back about how not everyone has the comforts that we do here in America and Canada. That is why our children Pledge Allegiance to the United States. To say thanks to the founding fathers for starting this country.
     
  16. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    Fawkes

    So you are claiming that America is and always has been a place free of all bigotry and hate?

    Are you claiming no American has ever taught hate or bigotry?

    Are you claiming that throughout its history on one has ever needed to beg, or go hungry?

    Of course not that would be completely stupid, as you know US history has been full of hate, bigotry, torture, rape, massacres and all other forms of stupidity.

    So what is your point?

    That you are proud of your country?

    Great if there are things to be proud of, but I’ve never been a fan of – ‘my country right or wrong’

    I think children should be taught a balanced history of their country and then they can decide for themselves if they wish to give it their oath of allegiance.
     
  17. Fawkes

    Fawkes Member

    Holy shit, what happened, I'm under attack!! By a pommie, no less

    Ummm, no, how the hell did you infer that from what I said. Damn, it pisses me off when people read something, then turn around completely and change the meaning of what they read. No place is free of bigotry and hate. Ever heard of Londonderry? I am sure you, Balbus, know of this incident, but let me recount for all our other dear readers;

    On Janurary 30 1972 14 innocent unarmed civilians were killed and 13 others were wounded when the British Army opened fire on a Civil Rights march. Now, I realize that the IRA is basically a terrorist movement, but for the military to open fire on a Civil Rights march? WTF, mate?

    What about the way the British treated the natives in Africa or India. I don't know of any specific incidents, but I'm sure thousands were killed.

    Is that not bigotry?





    HAHAHA!! Name me a place where that is the case. It doesn't happen. That is why I am a Republican. Liberal Democrats just want to GIVE the poor and the needy what they need for however long the bum needs it. I want to give them enough to survive long enough for them to get out there, get a job and WORK for there food and shelter.




    One of the most shameful point in American History was the Trail of Tears. Then of course there was slavery, which was shameful. But you guys in London didn't mind either of those, did you. London supported the south in our civil war, because y'all wanted cheap cotton.




    Yes, proud of my country. Proud of the fact that people were brave enough to sail across the open seas to America to found a new land. Proud of the fact that we took you on, and beat you, twice. Thanks to the French. If England hadn't been fighting with the French for the last 700 years and could have focused your efforts on us, we never would have won. That is probably the best thing the French have ever done. But we still had to beat on them for a while from 1798 to 1800 after the XYZ affair

    Proud of the fact that we took the greek democratic system and started the greatest system of governance that the world has ever seen. OK OK, it took us a while to include everybody, BUT NO EUROPEAN COUNTRY IN THE 18TH CENTURY RESPECTED THE NATIVES OF THE LANDS THEY INVADED, CONQUERED AND PLUNDERED!!




    OK, that is a good point, one can't be proud of all of America's history, and all the things that I have mentioned; Trail of Tears, Slavery and all that. But we are still proud that we are the greatest country on the planet with the most freedom for the individual. That is what America is about. The UK can't say they have freedom for the individual. Watch McLibel. "My country, right or wrong." OK, even though my country has taken a wrong turn in the last couple of weeks, I am still proud of it. And I am confident that people will come to there senses before we enter a depression as long and hard as the '30s Great Depression.

    Also, "Right or Wrong" what about your children. Could you forgive and still be proud of them even though they have done some things wrong? Could you forget their little mistakes, and still be proud.




    "Taught a balanced history" This would be nice, but most schools and teachers are too liberal to teach everything that went down back in the day. People should be able to make their own allegiances, they should be able to make up their own minds. But can you expect a 4th grader (Wait, sorry, you are in the UK and probably have a different system of education. Sorry. A kid usually turns 11 years old in the fourth grade.) to make that kind of educated decision on such a difficult topic. Little kids don't have the mental capacity, their brains are still forming, they are still too impressionable, they don't have enough life experiences to be able to accurately make a decision like that. So we teach them to love their country, then later on in life they can be educated on the differences in world government styles and philosophies and then make a decision.
     
  18. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

    What's a "pommie?"
     
  19. Balbus

    Balbus Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

    fawkes


    Well after a lot of shrill posturing you actually end agreeing with me that ‘my country right or wrong’ is not the best position to have



    Thing is should states be indoctrinating uninformed children to try and instil an allegiance they probably don’t understand?

    I don’t think they should

    If people wish to pledge an allegiance later when they have the knowledge to make an informed decision that is up to them.

    **



    That’s an opinion to me the US is just another country with a chequered and at times down right un-honourable history.

    Maybe you need to become a bit more informed about your country I can suggest a few books if you wish?
     
  20. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

    On the subject of slavery:

    from Wiki

    America didn't invent slavery, Americans didn't send ships out to capture slaves, and America was one of the first countries to abolish it, so let's call the White American Slavery Shame a conspiracy perpetrated upon all white citizens by folks that just basically don't believe in work.

    Since it was the African's, THEMSELVES, who were selling each other into slavery, it occurs to me that ALL Black-Americans might want to have a nice little chat with THOSE folks about how much they are owed for their ancestor's work.

    On the Native Americans:

    from me ;)

    That was a crying shame, no doubt, but we tried our best to explain to them what property ownership was all about, and they just didn't get it. To THEM, the little beads and bangles were like diamonds, so if they truly didn't care about real estate, just wanted to trade ANYTHING for the junk (including things such as horses, wives, even children), why not trade it for something they didn't value. We didn't value our junk ~ they didn't value land. Everyone walked away, happy.

    Once it became apparent that they ended up with the short end of the stick, we made provisions for them, as best we could at the time. Those provisions need to be re-evaluated, perhaps, but we won ~ and we were still willing to SHARE in the win, not just kick them aside and leave them to fend for themselves.

    That's the beauty of generosity, and i think ALL Americans are generous, even the poor ones! We try to help, but sooner or later, you have to re-evaluate the help ~ IS it helping? ARE things getting better?

    Just my 2¢...
     

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