Please, I need some transcending advice....

Discussion in 'Communal Living' started by zephyrfeather, Mar 2, 2009.

  1. bluesafire

    bluesafire Senior Member

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    I find that most people can't or don't smell their own BS and naturally think they are the most "peaceful" or whatever. You may very well be a generally loving & peaceful person. Obviously I don't know you. The only thing I'm going on is the impression I had from your post. And according to that you fit a certain profile, which is that of a young idealistic, unrealistic dreamer who, when faced with the difficult reality of communal living, will become disillusioned and go off to chase another rainbow dream. Often this goes hand in hand with a "free-loader" attitude.

    This may be completely wrong where you, specifically, are concerned. Anytime we make generalizations about someone based on an impression there's a chance of being wrong. Of course there is. I hope this is the case here. When it comes to people I hold impressions lightly, and remain open-minded although somewhat skeptical.

    I do hope you find what you dream of and that it proves to be a healthy balance with reality. I've yet to hear of people who are really "doing it" to the full extent. Sure some people are living a self-sufficient type of existence but when it comes to relationships there is something lacking, whether it's their interpersonal skills or other qualities that bring and keep people together. And without good relationships there is really no "community", is there?

    Personally I feel that the most important thing is to learn to recognize your own BS, to see how it is that we are not in alignment with the dream that we want to create, and to find balance between the vision and reality through actual life experience.

    Good luck to you. :cheers2:
     
  2. zephyrfeather

    zephyrfeather Member

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    bluesafire, my shit stinks and I know yours does too. i am serious and i do believe you are pointing your finger in the wrong direction kid. Here's a little something you maybe have heard before but if not here it is, "A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon.

    Cool stuff, huh? I hope you get that I am trying to find like-minded people to live this reality. If not, then oh well! Might as well save your weak generalizations for a thread elsewhere.

    Just trying to live bro, and I feel like I am doing a pretty good job at it. See there are people out there who can be positive, without having to be negative first. Seems to me like you aren't one of them. I just hope you, sir, are keeping it real.

    For all of you who support my intentions-god bless you! For all of you who don't-god damn you! And, if any of you have heard of anything worth my while-let me know.

    PEACE AND LOVE!!!
     
  3. bluesafire

    bluesafire Senior Member

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    my first impression was right.
     
  4. yonosoymedico

    yonosoymedico Member

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    haha, love it.. and btw, hillbill is right on, pretty funny...
     
  5. zephyrfeather

    zephyrfeather Member

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    well then it looks like i'm a flip-flopper and can't be peaceful to everyone....my bad.:mad: let's get one thing straight everyone-i despise people that don't understand the unity of peace. i said god damn the people that go against the right side of life, not eternally but, you know, give them a little taste of karma before they have their curtains close. that must be a wrong belief to the hipforum network, even though i said peace to ALL. OH WELL! not a big deal for me, just a bummer how so many (just a couple really) of you believe that free-love is a myth and i am not a peaceful person. sure, i may not be the most peaceful person and i know this is true, but i still am a very peaceful person-even though i like to keep the river flowing.

    anyways, the whole point of this thread was to educate myself on the efficiency of communes, and it looks like i became more educated. i didn't really get what i was hoping for due to my lack of peace and harmony. :)
    oh well, i will go play my guitar and look to the skys and maybe a voice will tell me how to be more peaceful and more harmonious. just kidding, but i will go play my guitar and look to skys and hope, just hope for all the people who don't really understand the meaning of compromising peace and harmony.
     
  6. zephyrfeather

    zephyrfeather Member

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    and i'm really suprised because aren't you all hippies?
     
  7. bluesafire

    bluesafire Senior Member

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    :smilielol5:
     
  8. zephyrfeather

    zephyrfeather Member

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    your point??? it isn't possible for everyone to be in peace and harmony...therefore, "i despise people who...."

    how is that wrong?

    look at you, mr. living for peace....bob marley himself said bablyon will fall on all you baldheads. is it a shame to despise baldheads? it's not like i HATE them, i just despise them. there is a huge difference.

    i mean seriously, look at you criticizing me, don't you think that is a little unpeaceful....:smilielol5:
     
  9. bluesafire

    bluesafire Senior Member

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    you really don't see the irony do you?

    despise ≠ peace
     
  10. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    now who needs popcorn??:rolleyes:
     
  11. zephyrfeather

    zephyrfeather Member

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    i mean what are you possibly implying....that there are free-loaders out there, but i am not one of them. it couldn't have been more direct, bluesafire, that you were targeting that statement towards me.

    how i ask, when that was your first post on this thread? talk about civil unrest. it seems to me that you are being a little hypocritical, don't you think?
     
  12. zephyrfeather

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    it's sad but true bluesafire....irony is everywhere. look at the people who live in communes in the first place-don't you think they despise the rest of society? they are still peaceful, and they wouldn't go shoot mainstream society, but they still hold a grudge. ying and yang. there is no way there could just be the ying my friend. i wish as do all of you, but we all know that it isn't possible, despite what timothy leary said. i do believe that the ying can become a stronger force, but i do believe that it is also inevitable for there to be a balance.

    is the world going to end in 2012? maybe it will and maybe it won't. I sure know this though, at the rate we are progressing and degrading, it wouldn't suprise me if newton's predictions though the bible code came true. Or, if the mayan, cherokee, and other prophets predictions came true. just like the wave is refreshed every time it goes back to the ocean, human civilization will cease.
     
  13. bluesafire

    bluesafire Senior Member

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    you do! you do! c'mon on, I'm trying to entertain you here. :toetap05:
     
  14. bluesafire

    bluesafire Senior Member

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    dude I wasn't even talking about you personally in that post. I was making a general point. the point being that free loaders are aplenty.
     
  15. bluesafire

    bluesafire Senior Member

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    Despising someone isn't peaceful. Holding a grudge isn't peaceful. Hating others isn't peaceful. You can't have it both ways. There's either peace or conflict. It's better to just be honest and say "yeah I'm not really all that peaceful although I'd like to be more so". If people get away to build a "peaceful" commune because they hate the rest of society then they are no different than the rest of society and in fact are probably MORE full of shit than most others, because they've become lost in the delusion of being holier than thou. I certainly want no part of a commune like that.

    To attempt to achieve a balance between peace and conflict is insanity.

    I'd suggest being more concerned with how you're being in the present, cause if you're fucking that up no future is gonna save you.
     
  16. zephyrfeather

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    that is why i am here man. apart from me being in debt, currently not having someone to love physically, emotionally, and spiritually, and other tough times being the age i am, I am actually very in tune with life and the positivity that manifests within. i love who i am, and i love my intentions in life. i plan on playing music for fans, i plan on living in a commune, i plan on hitchhiking and living in the woods, and i certainly plan on living everyday as if it was my last.

    i hope you do the same. i just wish there weren't so many false prophets out there saying this and that, ultimately not winning in end. the skeptic will always be the first to be looked upon and the first to be looked away from; and, in the end the skeptic will be the first one to win.

    believe or not! it's not my choice, but i do recommend this-stay away from generalizing things that should not be generalized. after the first couple of posts from you guys, it seemed like you just misunderstood me. now, you are being hypocrites in your actions and are actually becoming a part of what you preach against.

    talk about irony!
     
  17. bluesafire

    bluesafire Senior Member

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    wtf?! :confused:

    Ok I'm done with this thread. bye.
     
  18. zephyrfeather

    zephyrfeather Member

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    and you can't be serious right? :rolleyes::smilielol5:
     
  19. zephyrfeather

    zephyrfeather Member

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    see....how in the hell can someone just point fingers or assume, based on generalizations, that i am a free-loader? The above quote is from the very first post, the start of the thread itself, which in case you guys didn't catch my drift, was from me. So in other words, I clearly said that free-loading wasn't a part of my intention.

    do you see now why i am a little distraught over the matter of your words?
     
  20. bluesafire

    bluesafire Senior Member

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    yeah I was being serious. I started out making a general statement to HHB without really thinking anything much about you in particular. The only thing I thought about you at the time is that you sounded like one of those flakey dreamer types, but the statement itself really wasn't about you.

    you calling me a liar or something? lol! whatever...
     

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