Pick one

It can easily be both. High taxes on billionaires and 15 an hour. It's not that hard 6.

 

oh come one, your whole internet persona basically boils down to "i disagree with this thing democrats did, so let's spite them all!"

not that democrats don't do it, just that i'm not sure you're the right person to call them out on it.

 

Corporations and billionaires are not the same thing. Billionaires are people; corporations are not. It just bugs me when corporations are humanized.

But sure, you could raise the tax on corporations ans businesses, and force them to pay all their workers more. But don’t come sobbing to me when you’re charged a lot more for the goods and services you rely on, and the dollar loses more value

 

Prague, you say?

The Czech Republic has social security benefits that includes unemployment pay, disability, and a retirement pension, plus welfare benefits for the poor, as well as 28 weeks paid maternity leave and universal healthcare....
And I'm sure all your old neighbors in Prague would laugh at you if they had any idea of the way you conflate the social benefits enjoyed under a mixed economy with the brutality of Soviet era communism

 

To have infinitely more tax dollars is a good thing because when they refuse to pay their workers, they can't as easily refuse to pay their taxes. And then the workers who aren't getting paid much will thrive on government social programming for the needy; essentially that corporation's tax dollars at work.

 

Its irresponsible of you to pose this questuon when you dont understand the difference between a corporation and an entrepreneur. Just curious...how many years did you spend in business school?

 

Seems like you're arguing that dictatorships and monarchies have some functional value for civilization. Sure, I suppose some could work if managed properly. But I sure wouldn't wanna be living in one. Sometimes it feels like we're becoming a dictatorship, seeing how we are not allowed to criticize certain people without being ostracized.

I have a hard time buying your empathy toward these people. Last I spoke with you about Eastern Europe, you were still upset they weren't bringing in as much refugees as places like Germany or Sweden.

I don't admire Putin. I'd wouldn't call him a Laissez-faire capitalist either. Every once in a while he may say some things that make sense. But even the worst people in history have made valid points from time to time.

At what point does socialism become "the terrible kind" to you? How much is too much?

The USA is not capitalist or socialist. Personally, I'd call it a mixed-market corporatocracy. It's not a full-blown command economy, but we've got a ton of weaponized regulations. I'll admit I was feeling saucy when I sarcastically said we should all go back to the stone age to resist capitalism.

 

Czech Republic also scores #23 on the Economic Freedom Index as well. So that's very far from socialist. They may have universal healthcare, but they also offer a private option. They also have private schools there too. Which would be considered far-right according to people like Warren or Sanders who wanna do away with all forms of private health insurance and school choice.

 

lol

 

Right, it is far from socialism. It's a mixed economy. Okie's post was about mixed economies. You responded to his post about mixed economies with a post about soviet era communism. Why do you do that? WHY

WHYYYYYY

Also, by the way, getting rid of school choice doesnt mean getting rid of private schools. School choice refers to using tax payer funding in the form of vouchers at private schools. Meaning opponents of school choice just think you should have to use your own money (that you earn in the free market) to attend a private school versus doing it on the taxpayers dime.

 

Capitalism was born in the Stone age

 

Definition of SOCIALISM

Please find me an article or a video where Bernie says he wants a “mixed economy”

 

Jeez, what a splendid idea! Let’s more money to the state. So they could spend it on IMPORTANT things such as:

A $1 trillion jet that doesn't work
America Spent $1.5 Trillion On A Jet That Doesn't Work. How Many Schools Is That, Do You Think?

Inhumane human experiements on Guatemalans by giving them syphilis
First, Do No Harm: The US Sexually Transmitted Disease Experiments in Guatemala

$2.6 million to train Chinese prostitutes to drink responsibly
$2.6 Million Spent To Train Chinese Prostitutes To Drink Responsibly – The Truth

Study gay sex in Argentinean bars U.S. Government Funds $400,000 Study on Gay Sex in Argentina Bars

And more:
15 Crazy Ways the Government Wastes Money

 

Lol...

 

This one actually seems ok, but I get what you mean. I don't know if I posted it here, but in recent months I spoke with a gentleman at a card table outside a grocery store who essentially said in different words what you're saying: it doesn't get spent where it's supposed to. (EDIT: he was there administering a petition to ad measures to the local ballot or something. Asking for signatures...)

I feel like we can't afford to let that be what guides us in determining our position on taxation though. We must be realistic: taxes are necessary. It's unfortunate that sometimes we can't afford as much as we'd like, but I don't think that we should let ourselves be discouraged. The government is responsible; though you wouldn't know it from the environmental policy of the current admin. as one example... They take very good care of us, and while there is room for improvement, I'm not yet ready to say they are mismanaging our tax dollars. If there were proof of that, it would necessitate accountability.

 

You show me the article or video where he advocates total government ownership of the means of production and the abolishment of private property first

 

I'm stating an historical fact that anybody who didn't flunk History of Civilization 101 would no. Yes, indeedy , dictatorships and monarchies had (not just some, but major) value for civilization--despite all the hardships and atrocities. You can't seem to distinguish reality as it is from what you think it should be.

You must be hallucinating again. There was never a time I'd be upset that Eastern Europeans weren't bringing in more refugees. My only gripe is how some are treating the ones that get in, and the means some are taking to keep them out.

At the point they embrace Marxism-Leninism, establish a "dictatorship of the proletariat", and abolish or tokenize representative liberal democracy.

I'd call it a mixed economy. I'd like to keep it that way, with maybe a few more welfare programs and "weaponized regulations".

 

You think that is the only alternative?
Very unimaginative.

 

Like the stone age would have been that good anyway. I'm going back to the sand age. My castle will have a moat. Good luck building a moat with rocks haha haha

 

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