Philosophical Notes...

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  1. 73h_6r347_0n3

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    In this world one is that which one does; one's decisions create that which one becomes.
     
  2. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    thedope:
    "Us of course!" laughed Dejavu, "But why go for our good when greatness awaits us in the wings?"

    "More fiction from you then, and not just about my preference. The individual exists, excellence exists, would you have them somehow rule eachother out?!"
    He thought thedopes blubbering was put on, yet Dejavus patience remained.
    "Of course my love can't outlive life! And though I can't say that nature doesn't care for our beauty when we are ourselves our own natures, I know well how to squander a talent, so long as it's mine!" Dejavu always mistrusted his timing when his friends seemed disappointed in him, so he withdrew graciously, to fight another day one might say.
     
  3. thedope

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    thedope considered this new offering and found it somewhat out of place. "In this world being is all doing and the only eventful thing in a space time continuum. We are in a constant state of becoming or we are constantly emerging. There is no that which one becomes. Every moment is a new creation and there appears continuity from one to the next because each new moment is modeled on the moment before. Because each moment is new there is no past to prevent us from fundamentally changing our experience. To have a future different from the past we make a different choice in the present. But yes," agreed thedope, "ones decisions, thoughts, create tone of experience, not what one becomes but how one is managing this moment."



    "All things are lawful but not all things are helpful and helpful is a matter of timing."
     
  4. thedope

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    "We are human beings," thedope pointed out, "and if you be individual then us is a plurality but unlike you Dejavu I would not have been more impressed had you said yourself. I agree though in a fashion, why settle for good when greatness compels, magnanimous intent, only god is good."

    thedope's disappointment was put on but not his blubbering. Emotional reactivity is a third person to thedope. "I wish it surprised me Dejavu that you withdrew, the vain look for victory when there is no battle demanding wages from being. Now vain is another word to you like the word god is to you, carrying an emotional charge but that charge has nothing to do with any accusation on my part. No one escapes vanity which is believing in things without substance or the misapprehension of what is so. In the story of the temptation in the wilderness, the tempter ends up withdrawing to await a more opportune time. Temptation is the temptation to want illusion to be real as we seek time after time for satisfaction where it cannot be found in trying to measure good by degree or decree. That application will never produce consistent results." thedope trusted Dejavu implicitly even though he himself had been implicated as an insult to someone's mom.
     
  5. Dejavu

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    "Leave the kids out of it!" laughed Dejavu, his withdrawal done with, back already for another hit of thedope, not that he was hooked. Perhaps it was the question of crocodile tears. To not have doled out condolences for thedopes spouse upon hearing the grousing from their bedroom would have been poor form indeed from Dejavus perspective. "Your 'only' is exclusionary old man." he said. "You're always getting around to saying you love everyone, but you never quite manage it! Is it because it's dangerous to? Do you trust yourself as implicitly as you trust me? Now's always been the time, you aged godfish! Take this if you won't take that!" Was thedope so bewitched by his remonstrances with 'illusion', so nullified by the devotional nuances of what was his very own neverland that he didn't see that it doesn't matter how one measures ones good? That consistency in what befits us is beside the point? That all our intention, whether good, great, or belated, is nevertheless second to our demonstration? Speaking of seconds, it was time to leave thedope with that tell-tale ticking, the beat of his blubbering, that he could master it himself in the wilderness of his own imagination, give up the temptation to interpretation, subdue the saurian side of himself holding him in swamp-like servitude.
     
  6. Fairlight

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    No offense...But fuck it I'm not in the mood for you.Can you incorporate that into your philosophical debate.
     
  7. Dejavu

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    "Done! by the demo you, spider, have spun." he sung.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsHQzVScZEQ"]Fairlight - Desire [Breakthrough 1994] - YouTube
     
  8. 73h_6r347_0n3

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    This one then asks, "If one is in a constantly changing state and if ones decisions and thought create [a] tone of experience, is it not ones experiences then that create that which one is now in the present moment, and therefor what one will becom,e dependent on future experiences"
     
  9. Dejavu

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    "Just kidding fairlight, here's one for ya" said Dejavu.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbgKDplPdYM"]Dillinja - In The Mood - YouTube
     
  10. thedope

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    In response to This one thedope said, "first of all what is one now in the present moment? One could be an integer or an interlude or an interlocular but in the interest of integration let's call it being. We are human being, homo sapiens, tasting and knowing man. Experience is always measured in terms of living tissue, we don't have experience in the past and we don;t have experiences in the future. We have experience being in this present moment and we have grown tissue we call memory and have a capacity to imagine things that do not exist like for example our personal future, all of this occurring now and at no other time. Experience does not make us what we are, we make our experience what it is. What we are is a creation or inheritor of life so we do not create ourselves but we create like ourselves and we are as we are created. It is not up to you to decide what your inheritance is or even what you are but you may discover it, be informed by it and in turn become informative to it, again all in this moment."
     
  11. thedope

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    "My part of self I do, my perceptions I do not." replied thedope "I am comfortable in my own skin and satisfied with the motive of those around me however my senses are calibrated to be meaningful in a certain limited range and therefor I have always endeavored for the broadest sampling the tendency of life having a statistical element like the sun will rise at such a time on such a date. To pick up on this statistical element is why we have redundant senses, why we can both taste and smell and either being off to me is a request for more information not a determination."

    "I say love is what we are and it is because it is an accurate statistical assessment. That is love is the sponsoring motivation for every act . Every act is beyond what can be codified or taught. Illusion is the idea of relative worth although we do have relations of relative importance to us, our physical estate is the same as all things, all exchanges of energy being equal. The collision of dust particles in the atmosphere is as significant an act as the breath of a man and yet man would regard himself as specially endowed worthy of special consideration for degrees of suffering or passionate causes. Anger is not justified in any form as specialness or special reasons perpetuate the illusion of lack or justification for fear. The lack of love is justification for fear but love is not lacking and need not be taught. So when someone says all you need is love it makes sense when considering love but it is poor instruction when one thinks he is without it. What can be uncovered is fear's lack of justification as the sponsor for defensive action. For example many people want to live forever even in the face of overwhelming statistical evidence that they will not and this temptation to have illusion be real is the cause of great psychological turmoil and enormous resources are devoted to extraordinary care and not enough in proportion to that invested in the cares of this day. The insurance system stands between us and the potential value of life."
     
  12. Dejavu

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    "Does-not-compute." enounced Dejavu.

    "Determination as in inheritance? Let the calibrations begin!" he offered, redundantly.

    "Got it all figgered, doncha," said Dejavu facetiously, having only agreed with the first seven words of the lecture.
     
  13. thedope

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    "What the fuck," thedope cried with mock indignation, "I answered your question of me so of course I would know what is in my mind."
     
  14. Dejavu

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    "Well, since you think there's only one mind, do you know what's in mine regarding your other lie that we don't create ourselves?" laughed Dejavu.
     
  15. roamy

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    and roamy said its time for dope an dej ta sit down and hava nice cuppa tea an a pie together.hi guys. enjoy! by the way,i created the pie. ha! ha!:coffee::coffee::pie:
     
  16. thedope

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    "Of course. Confusion. If you see a lie you a experiencing a confusion of tongues" replied thedope. "We are spirit, breath. We breath and we create temporary conditions for ourselves. You did not combine sperm and egg and as long as you feed water and rest your body it will grow according to it's cycle. Your life as creature being a single life cycle of a living species."
     
  17. thedope

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    thedope was inclined to ask smiling, "In enjoying tea and pie together do we pour the tea on the pie or do we put the pie in the tea?"
     
  18. roamy

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    ha! ha! an roamy said in stitches laughing that its ye're pie and tea,so ye can have it anyway that ye like it best.ye could stick the pie inta the tea to.i do that,but ye have ta pull it out real quick ta bite it,before it gets to soft an drops inta the cup.its all about timing really.anyway enjoy it however ye have it and don't forget ta thank the apple tree ha! ha!:)
     
  19. Dejavu

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    "Thanks roamy!" said Dejavu, who looked then to thedope. "Are you sure I don't have kids?! I don't, but how would you know?!"
     
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    And thedope turned back to Dejavu and said, "Creation is a law without opposite. Giving is expending energy and there are no reciprocal arrangements. When we procreate we are creating temporary conditions for ourselves. We do not create our children but have sexual relations which is part of our life cycle so how does having children or not figure into your equation?'
     

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