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So far I haven't found much spirtuality with 2ci but i'm hoping it might have its place with a lower dose in combination. t7 was mostly boring the first couple times I tried then the third time the doseage must have been right because it was full of grandiose delusions and intense microscale visuals. That is in contrast to mescaline which produced very wholistic large-scale visuals, very earthy and with a calm peaceful intellect. I have high hopes for 4acodmt.

 

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when i first started tripping on 2ce i found it quite entheogenic

 

large amounts of 2cb have proven quite, if not spiritual, teaching, definitely not kandy, though. 2ce was a very beautiful spiritual experience for me as well...

 

My first 2ce trip while camping was very entheogenic as well, I remember having a very deep respect and reverence for nature.

 

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Agreed, although I've tried more of them than that and would make an exception for 2c-e. But where I find they really shine is in combo with a psilocin analog.

 

I'm glad to see that there are other people who agree about 2c-e. It is not the same as a tryptamine obviously, you have to consciously go that direction as it doesn't force itself on you, but it definitely can be "spiritual".

And what combination would you recommend?

 

wow somebody else who loves combinations more than the individual compounds?

 

Haha all the 2c-x's seem like perfect combo drugs, but I've only tried 2ce and 2ci together. 2ce and 2ci are seemingly made for each other, but I do need to try a higher dose of the two, like 30mg of each, I know it will be amazing. And I often consider calling in sick to work one day, and instead of going back to sleep, I stay up and make a mixture of 2c-e, i, b, t7, and lsd. :coffee: Now that sounds epic, but also I can't help but feel that would be kind of dangerous haha, so I haven't done it yet.

 

You guys have me somewhat interested in a 2cb / 4 aco dmt combo. Anyone have experience with this?

What kind of doses would you recommend, I think ill go 25mgs with 2cb but what would be a good complimentary dose of 4 aco?

 

That does sound like a fantastic combo. I know people who have combined 2c-c and 4 aco dmt and loved it and since for me 2c-b is just a slightly longer, more awesome 2c-c, it sounds fantastic.

 

i would say 20 mg 4acodmt with the 25 of 2cb. that is a modest suggestion (i don't think too much, and probably not too little) with no personal experience on mixing the two.

CS did 2ce and 4aco
see his thread combination

 

My most spiritual RC experience was on 2C-E, dont think anything will top that.
Also had a very spiritual experience on 2C-T-7 with 5-meo-dipt that was incredible.

Although I have yet to try 4-aco-dmt, AMT and DPT but they are all just waiting in my fridge, for me and my mind to get ready to explore..
All youre reports made me buy them, and I know they wont let me down! Just need to get my head ready..

 

I think I'd probably do 20ish of 4aco and 30 of 2cb. I've taken 25 and I've taken 30 and 25 just gave me a body high but 30 was where the magic seemed to begin. And I'd want to hit at least the minimum magic point for each.

 

I think this is a very good suggestion and probably what ill end up doing. I've taken 27 mgs of 2cb mixed with 4 me0 pcp and also mixed 25 mgs at the end of mdma and both times it was stronger than my 30+ mgs experiences of 2cb alone. On the 4 me0 pcp experience I was seeing eyeballs pop up and had a weird dark gothic type mystical mindspace and visuals that I found a bit overwhelming at times.

I would attempt to have the 4 ac0 dmt trip be the primary entheogen and the 2cb along to provide empathogenic effects and perhaps add some dimension to the mix.

 

25 mg 2cb and 30 mg 4-aco left me disappointed while my tripping buddy who usually doses the same ate 20 2cb and 25 4-aco-dmt and he said it was one of the best experiences of his life. definately worth another trial from his responses about it though

lol that sounds like a heart attack.

 

about mixing 2ci, 2ce, 2cb, and 2ct7, as long as you are doing like 1/4 of a normal dose for each at most, i don't think would be much more dangerous than any one alone. the t7 makes me wonder a bit. but this is all pure speculation.

in that case i might go with 25 or even 30 mg 4acodmt, depending on your experience with it alone.

 

This is a little conservative but I think it is best to error on the side of caution with PEA coctails, even if they are all modification of position 4 substituents, 2c-e, i, b, t7, and lsd, 10,5,10,5,0.2 mg. Personally I'd probably just pick one PEA and lsd.