People passing off RCs as LSD! >:(

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They are a series of synthetic chems that are potent and can fit on blotters like LSD, occasionally passed off as acid and they have effects that at high doses can last up over a day. They also can cause pretty nasty vasoconstriction for some.

 

DOI, DOC, DOB, ect.

 

Ddt?

 

I could be wrong, but....

I think the vasoconstriction is mostly described by people who look up potential effects, and want it to have been "dirty", because it was not LSD.

It's a problem with massive overdoses, but probably not something you'll ever notice on a high normal dose.... by overdose, I mean like those guys who ended up on 80+mg DOB each, when OD starts around 3.5mg.

Another problem is that people consistantly take doses that are several times larger than they should be, and then wonder why they freaked out, or write trip reports about how they ONLY took 5mg DOB or 20mg DOM, and that these are HORRIBLE chems that nobody should EVER take..... These are drugs with a maximum dose, and NO benefit or ability to push past there. Heroism does not work with these, they'll kick your ass....

 

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/austin/mans-leg-amputated-after-taking-dob

That may be an excessive dose they took who knows, but I was saying it can cause nasty vasoconstriction, it's something of concern if someone thinks they have LSD and want to take like a 10 strip and it's Dox or maybe even half of that imo . LSD causes vasoconstriction itself, so I don't think that's a reason the Dox's would be considered "dirty" probably something more about the stimulating effects coupled with the long duration.

 

Sounds like a very high dose.

This is true, DOx dosing is done for ONE experience, what gets people into trouble is multiple dose units and/or not knowing.

I have had one dose of DOB, which I think was reasonably high, and the vasoconstriction was akin to LSD..... Not amputation grade by any means. These people who have long hospital stays fighting gangrine and such have had very large doses.... There is a thing on erowid I read a while ago, in preperation for dosing myself, somewhere in europe 2 guys took 80mg of DOB (not sure if it was 80 each, or divided-I hardly think it matters) and one died, the other may have had amputations...... But that's many tens of times an overdose.

With a simple overdose, people seem to black out and/or have psychotic breaks, from what I've read. They also do stupid things because they don't believe they're still on drugs, say, 16 hours after dosing.

I still resent the "dirty" bullshit, there's nothing dirty about it, there's just something dirty about scumbags who sell chemicals as things they're not.

Anyway:

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=450245&f=117

 

Ive been lurking these forums for some time now, but I have to say, I joined up today because I just had to post my rant on this....

People selling RC's as real drugs is my absolute biggest pet peeve when it comes to drug dealers. Its almost like, because they are cheaper then real drugs, people are not even bothering getting the good shit anymore. Because there is more profit? Are you fucking serious? I dont sell drugs, but when I did, part of it was the positive feeling of sharing the love with the people I enjoyed being around. These research chemicals just feel dirty, synthetic, and gross. Exactly the opposite of how I want to feel on acid. If someone is trying to sell me this shit, it tastes even remotely bitter, I just want to smack them in the face and hope they get busted soon because of all the poor kids who will eat this and not know any better. RC's are there for one thing only, and that is to fuck you up. Tripping is supposed to be a lot more than that. If you want to be an idiot and order a bunch of this shit online, please keep it to yourself.

 

^ Wow the irony of you saying all this when your username is a slang term for an RC.

 

This is really not a good place to bash rc's. Sure it sucks when someone sells them as LSD, but many of them are worthwhile chemicals.

 

^ I agree! Many RC's are very deep, introspective, amazing trips!

 

Yeah, fuck that synthetic scum..... Good ol' acid, grown organically, just sun, rain, and compost....

 

Wasnt even aware of this but yeah, ironic. im curious as to which one, guessing its like 2ci or something?

Like I said, if someone wants to order a bunch of sketchy chemicals and put them in their own body, have at it. The issue I have is when I pay my hard earned money for lsd (or molly, its even worse with that) and get RC's. Ive tried many, many RC's before (and I would do 4acodmt again, probably), and at this point I would rather be sober than do those. I dont know if its just my mindset, but I am never comfortable eating synthetic drugs. I would feel more comfortable eating a strip then 1 hit of whatever it is thats legal these days. Again, to each their own, but keep it to yourself and for those of you trying to pass it off as real shit...its insulting to your customers

 

2ct7

 

Are you aware that the LSD and molly that you love are also synthetic

 

^ LOL Yeah.

 

of course, but people have been eating them for....30+ years? All this new shit, not so much... I get the feeling that a great deal of sacrifices safety wise are made in exchange for legality. Like i said...have at it...just dont sell that shit as something else because some of us do care what we are eating

 

from wikipedia: "There have been at least three reported deaths related to 2C-T-7 use as of August, 2007, mainly at insufflated doses of 30 mg or more[9][10] or combined with stimulants such as MDMA,[11] as well as a number of very uncomfortably intense effects and hospitalizations, these mostly followed insufflation of 2C-T-7. In January 2002, Rolling Stone published an article about 2C-T-7 entitled "The New (legal) Killer Drug""

uhhhhh yeah fuck this shit dude!

 

why would you read in this forum if you don't want to see people posting about it.. i don't agree with opiates but you don't see me trolling the opiates section..... :2thumbsup:

 

because.... lsd =/= research chemicals? lsd is my favorite drug...i love talking to people who feel the same way... i will be keeping out of the opiates/benzos section for the same reason

 

LOL, there are just as many 'reported deaths' from LSD and many more from MDMA. But the devil is in the details, and dying from 2ct7, or MDMA, or really most research chemicals, requires a certain mix of carelessness (mixing multiple drugs, not drinking water and dancing for 12 hours etc) and bad luck.

For example here you are writing off a chemical that Shulgin listed in the same elite cohort as Mescaline. You have to do the deep research otherwise you'll believe that LSD makes you think you're a glass of orange juice forever, or that 2c-t-7 is dangerous to take (without qualification)