Pedophiles: Sick or Evil?

I think i agree with what you said
It makes lotsa sense

 

I do not understand why this in Politics but my input is simple. Instead of the sex offenders having to register to get out becuase they feel they will re-offend I think we should offer on TV public castrations, no pain meds, then quickly stop the bleeding with some sort of hot metal to seal the wound, when he wakes up he is free to leave, no dick, no nuts, no drive. If that dont cure em and they re-offend them how about public on TV executions, slow, painfull, maybe even have a doctor there to wake em up if they pass out too soon. Like a 1 hour television special that cand be a 2 part series if ya pass out too soon. Cant be pay per view though, you want the message to get out there nice and clear. I am sure the rate of that crime will drop alot then and if one child is spared then it was well worth it.

 

should we castrate parents that circumcise theyr kids and also list theyr address to the public . ?

 

There would be no need to list the address of a pedophile who served thier time after they were castrated. As fot circumsition, I believe that since they passed laws to stop female circumsition then the same should be past for males. I believe it should be up to the person who's dick it is.

 

I Think Parents Who Circumcise Theyr Kids Should Keept Off Limit To Other Childrens And Address And Information Posted About This Genital Butchers .

 

You would've made a great Inquisitor in Spain. He got off on torture too!

Your answer is just as head sick as the crime itself and, in some cases, worse!

I hardly think barbaric brutality is the answer.

 

UNLESS the pedo was a brutal rapist and a murder himself.

 

cut her tits off.

 

Aristartle is right. There is a better way and it doesn't involve mutilation of any kind.

 

You seem like a really smart guy Libertine. Help me with this one. (Please!)
Let's see..if I remember one of fascinating (yawn) classes of Dr. Brown (Psych Professor), those tendencies are centered in amygdala and hippocampus mostly. Balances of certain enzymes and excitory and inhibitory neurotransmitters affect neuronal connections in those hubs. And those connections affect behavior. Doesn't it make sense that some researcher somewhere will find a way to change that balance by turning off/on some receptor site in that area. Maybe they can create a time release chemical or implant that can be injected etc. periodically. Thoughts?
I'm not a supporter of these peoples' behaviors, but I don't believe in giving up hope that they can be helped. Science has had amazing successes with depression, epilepsy, and other conditions of the brain. Why not this?

 

You seem like a really smart guy. Ha ha...

I think there has to be a way and I have a real strong desire to see more progressive approaches used on these types of problems. I think that science has more than just the answers that we give it credit for. I believe that someone on the level of Timothy Leary's creativity and the scientific intelligence level of Hawking (in the medicinal field) could surely find something.

You have some good thoughts. Good ideas.

 

one bullet to the head no questions asked

 

I've read through a few pages of this:

What can i say...., well i've never raped a girl but oh i forget i'm not a pedo becasue i'm still under 18, hmm so then does that mean i can do anything i want with minors?- never thought of that before, i think i'm being legal

But something in my life is coming up, and the hold for younger girls (maybe 7-10) was very strong in my life, but i'm slightly different then most cases, never being molested or abused (not that i can remeber) most likely came from her curiosity and my desire to be physical with someone(like stated before no sex or rape). In my case i am and was very morally challeged espically rescently she has been growing farhter and farther away

And to say frankly is getting tired of m shit, but right now i'm at a good place in my life; i've kissed a few girls but when it is really your frist you know she made my mind bloom and for awhile if it really dies down to nothing, i'll be clean, after her it was amazing how quickly my desire went away

If i was voting i would say sick and confied for life, but of course if i was every caught for it i would want something much less severe

If this could be biologically be removed, all my passions and zest would be lost with it, for my want comes from a want for love and a want to be close and so without those want and the hope of fullfilling them i would rather be dead

 

Heroin blamed for death of boy



13-year-old spent night using drugs and drinking, police say



By JAIME ARON
Associated Press

BEDFORD -- Derrick Lee Drowse seemed like an ordinary enough seventh-grader. The 13-year-old played football on his street and sang in the school choir. Teachers considered him well-behaved, and he made A's and B's.

On Friday, a new image emerged: drug user.

Derrick died in his home Thursday morning of a suspected heroin overdose after a night that police said included using other narcotics and drinking. Officers found needle marks on his arms and feet, 2 to 3 grams of black tar heroin in his bedroom, and marijuana and needles elsewhere in the house.

"It doesn't necessarily shock you that heroin is in the community. What's shocking and disturbing is that it's in the hands of a 13-year-old," said Bedford police Deputy Chief David Flory.

"I've been here 18 years, three with the narcotics task force, and I don't remember a 13-year-old ever being involved with heroin, not even 15- or 16-year-olds. We hope it's the exception and not the rule," he said.

An autopsy had yet to be performed, and toxicology tests weren't expected for about six weeks, Flory said, adding that evidence strongly indicated that heroin was to blame.

The death was reported around 10 a.m. Thursday by the 17-year-old son of the common-law husband of Derrick's mother. The four lived in a duplex in this quiet, working-class suburb midway between Dallas and Fort Worth.

Police interviewed Derrick's mother and the 17-year-old's father. When the older teen was asked where Derrick got the heroin, he asked for an attorney, Flory said.

"I don't think there was any strong indication they knew what was going on," said Flory.

Drug possession charges could be filed, he said, depending on toxicology results and fingerprint analyses.

Another possible charge is endangerment to a child, a state jail felony punishable by up to two years and a $10,000 fine.

"We're trying to find out whether they knew about the drugs, encouraged it ... that's the kind of things we need to know," Flory said.

Derrick is the second area teen-ager to die of a heroin-related overdose in seven weeks, adding North Texas to the growing list of places nationwide where the drug is making an unwelcome comeback.

On Nov. 12, 17-year-old Todd Mathews of Grapevine -- about five miles away -- died from an overdose he had taken at his brother's Dallas home, police said. He was a high school senior with a 4.0 grade-point average, a member of the National Honor Society and the swim team and he planned a Navy career.

On Friday, most of Derrick's neighbors said they hardly knew the boy or the other members of his household. Several people recalled seeing him play football with the 17-year-old.

"He seemed pretty nice; a normal kid," said neighborhood youngster Ludo Zywczak, one of the few people of Derrick's age in the area. "I was surprised to hear a 13-year-old died of heroin. It is pretty shocking."

Elaine Shaw, whose house is around the corner, has a 13-year-old son, but she said the two didn't know each other. She believes their only contact came last winter during an impromptu snowball fight.

Shaw, who home-schools her 13- and 5-year-old sons, said she considered the drugs an isolated problem that could hit any community.

"I'm not that afraid," she said. "I think it's kind of random."

School officials also said they felt confident that heroin isn't a problem in their hallways. Flory pointed out that the school district was the state's first to institute the DARE (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) awareness program in the 1980s. A recent national survey indicated that teen usage of the drug tripled from 1988 to 1994, the latest year for which data is available.

 

Last Stand, throw your worst at this one. Meanwhile, I'm going to go vomit.

 

If you're saying that you (and most of us at some time or another) possess the mental capacity to be a paedophile.. I'm in total agreement.

Modern Western society is perfectly well balanced to purge us of these thoughts before we ever act on them, but still goes over the top in it's treatment of sick minds..

I still haven't read in these pages anything that sounds like a good psycological treatment, but I know it's the way forward.

 

Ok, I'm just gonna lay things out for you. I wake up each morning and try to greet this world with patience and compassion. I attempt to lend some intelligence, and aspire to be part of the solution..not part of the problem. I offer remedy to those who seem to be clueless, in the hope that the things I've seen on the roads I've traveled may help someone avoid an errant turn down a dead end street. What's the point? Everywhere I look, I see people talking about their insidious actions, (with their fingers in their ears, so they can't hear us)
irrespective of the effects these actions have on others. People indifferent to the eventual consequences of bragging about their stupidity to others just like them. They tell us, "I am 17, and I've been doing meth and popping 9 year old girls since I was 12". I realize that some of these things are said purely to outrage most of us, and draw cheers from the rest, but is there no restraint left at all? Are these guys going to just continue justifying everything with
Oh Well....? I'm just nauseous........and pissed off! I used to see these forums as a respite. I saw them as place to go and talk with people of like mind. I like to remember what it used to be like. I was just a kid in the sixties, but I spent a lot of time with Hippies later. I admired them, because they talked about inspired solutions. not violent ones. Can't say that I remember any of them bragging about being a pedophile or giving drugs to little kids. Sure there were drugs, but adult used not little kids. Sure there was sex, but not little kids. Many of this younger crowd call themselves Hippies. I think they sully the memory of people that cared about something other than just being outrageous. I try to always post positive messages. I apologize if I've upset anyone. But, sometimes you have to speak, even if your voice shakes.

 

It is a sick sick world we live in...


And I apologise for not catching yours and Libertine's brilliant replies earlier..

Libertine doesn't paint such a dark picture of the world that implies we're stuck with a problem that will never disappear, yet you do.

Science and society, possibly a more balanced view on morality, holds the key to understanding and dealing with what is really a very old sickness.. I think the fact that it was hidden, and almost accepted, for so long has made it harder to deal with, and now pure hatred prevails above rationality..

You two know more about scientific advances than I, and I find it encouraging that if laymen believe it's the way forward, then scientists and psychologists really must have answer they haven't shared yet.

 

Libertine has too much class to rant like I just did. If you've ever really read my posts, you'd know that I don't give up on people. I love this world. Maybe too much sometimes. I'm just heartsick right now. That is why my posts seem a little dis-jointed.

 

Great posts, guys!

I think the thing that sets me (and some others here) apart from the rest is that I abhor and reject violent "solutions" to these problems because I feel that they don't solve anything.

It's just a "dog eat dog", "eye for an eye" philosophy until everyone ends up bitten and blind. There is a positive way to deal with all issues and there is a way to deal with pedophilia. Keep in mind that not all pedophiles are child molestors. Many are people who are dealing with this issue, are afraid to come out and say anything (for the violent reactions they'd get), and have never harmed a child, but suffer with this.

I don't have sympathy for molestors or attackers of children. And as a father of two, I am only human--and as such my rage may indeed get the best of me. But, what I am saying is that rage and revenge is no way to deal with any issue--not even this one.

There are alternatives to the medieval practices that some call for here and I think we need to explore those rationally and see which solutions are the most beneficial for all parties involved and try to take a more preventive approach to ending molestation and other sexual crimes without the violations of civil liberties or human rights.