Pedophiles: Sick or Evil?

Yes there is a big difference between a 19 yo and a 14 yo getting married, and an adult raping a 5 year old. My mother caught a man the other checking out her 5 year old daughter in the grocery store. She had a skirt on and bent over to pick something up. Naturally, she just bent over and didn't squat like older girls and women do. She saw the man turn his head like he was trying to look up her skirt. Then he smirked at my mom like "What are you going to do about it?" That is sick.

I looked on the local sex offender registry and I had over 20 living within 5 miles of my house. Most were from offenses against children. How in the hell are these people not still in jail? It also showed the distance between their homes and schools. It is not surprising how many live in close proximity to elementary schools.

Really, I don't know if I could control my anger and rage if some sick fuck raped one of my young girls. I really don't.

 

I see your point, but anger and rage should not be what our justice system is based upon. Revenge and Guilty Until Proven Innocent is what the American system TRULY is, and not beneficial to society in any way other than promoting "eye for an eye" and persecution before trial.

Sex Registries are meant to protect children, but I feel they do nothing to protect children and everything to escalate one crime over another. I do not believe someone accused of Statutory Rape or smacking a girl's ass is more of a threat to society than a MURDERER who has been let out of prison, or a KIDNAPPER or someone with a rap sheet full of physical assault. I think the reason that "sex crimes" are cherry-picked to have a registry is purely the puritan philosophy America takes with sex in general.

The U.S. is the greatest hypocritical nation when it comes to sex overall and especially what constitutes a sex crime.

But, that's all the legal mess.

We are talking about the actual mind of a pedophile here. I can't accept the fact that some people are "born evil" or "possessed by Satan" and all the medieval talk, but I do believe that these people are psychologically and physiologically unhealthy. They need treatment, counseling, drug therapy and to be quarantined from children. Perhaps a lifetime ankle monitor as well.

But, I think the registry hurts more than it actually helps society. And so does the violence and rage against these sick, sick people. Just my opinion.

There are better ways.

 

I think they are sick for having the urge, but evil for acting on it.

 

Interesting..

I find it easier to think of if as an Evil that requires a sick, or a weak mind, to act on it..

 

Agreed.

 

I don't believe in "evil" myself--in the form of "satan" or "demons".

I believe behaviors are either harmful or beneficial. I don't use the terms "good" and "evil", because things are truly relative to circumstance.

I believe these people have an illness that is harmful to society and need to be stopped (#1) and need help (#2).

Barbaric revenge tactics, inhumane torturous practices and warehousing (without counseling) are just as criminal, inhumane and unethical. Furthermore they are not overall beneficial to society in any degree.

 

Every society, every age, has had retribution as it's basic method for teaching right from wrong..

I'm all for helping the individual that commit these CRIMES, and for us helping to make for a better society, but, I do believe some form of punishment is still needed.

 

You are correct. Retribution has always been the top dog when it comes to solutions to such problems.

I happen to believe we'll overcome that one day and recognize that revenge tactics make us no better than the criminals themselves.

 

That's why I chose "retribution" instead of revenge.

I'm against the death penalty because we waste the chance to learn what happens to the mind to allow certain thoughts to consume it.

I'm against leaving people to rot in jails, but not to restricting the ability for these people to feed thier sickness.

 

You sound kind of like me then. I maybe a BIT more radical, though! ha ha...

 

I guess you must be pretty radical!


But then, I've never met a paedophile, and reckon I'd feel more than uncomfortable if I knew I was in same room as one...

That's the moment when you shouldn't be able to decide what works best.

 

If I'm not mistaken,most researchers of pedophilia have concluded that these behaviors are not correctable.So, if this is true and the urges and the acting out of these urges continue--these people need to be confined.For the duration if necessary.As an example of what might happen with ME under certain circumstances---one day my son didn't get off the school bus and I didn't know where he was .After calling a few friends,I found out he got off at a friends house because a big kid punched his lunch pail flat and threatened to hurt him.I just about ruined my car getting to their house,drove up on their lawn ,banged on their door and told them "I'll kick everybodies asses that live here if anyone even looked at my son again"!Now,being a fairly gentle person,I was surprised that my own actions were so radical.So let's put it this way---you never know how you'll act when something has been perpetrated against those you love and protect.So I hope I never get into a situation worse than what I described--#1--obviously the child would suffer probable irrepairable damage --but I'm also sure the fucker that fooled with my grandchildren would also come to great harm.If the checks and balances that make most of us rational, caring beings toward children--anyone's children ,are not present in some people and these urges manifest,then these flawed beings don't deserve to walk among us.Fuck counseling--people can say anything.And do.

 

i was only joking.

I think they need help, whether it's medication/ a pyschologist, etc.

 

Well, perhaps you can start your own euthanasia program. Killing people seems to be the usual solution. If the human zoo doesn't work.

When will we turn from retributive tactics and search for more progressive means?

If these behaviors are not "correctable" why are these pedophilias given mandatory therapy? And furthermore, ANY BEHAVIOR CAN BE CORRECTED...and without cruel and unusual medieval revenge tactics.

It wasn't too long ago that many people believed that only spankings could stop certain children or problems. Or the DEATH PENALTY was the only deterrent for certain crimes. I think NOW that those theories have been turned on their heads.

The progressive philosophy is never to give up and say "can't be done", but to continue and further one's research and science. It CAN be done and it WILL be.

It's just a matter of time. In the meantime, we need more progressive and alternative methods of dealing with the problem.

 

Well, as I said, I knew one and he was a relative. You kind of see things from a different light when you see the obvious ethical dilemma this sick soul was going through.

I guess I just don't have many knee-jerk reactions. I mean I knew how he was from my own childhood and his own (at least from very early ages), so the most difficult part was wanting to hate him, but feeling a lot of anguish for him (as he seemed to hate himself and hadn't even acted on it).

No, I don't sympathize with molestors at all, but I have seen the angst of the psychological effects that the illness of pedophilia plays on the mind of the pedophile. And I don't believe castration or death should be the cure.

I tend to reject barbaric practices whether used in crimes or in "punishments".

 

whether it's sickness or evil, pedophiles should not be out in the public. They should be kept away from children for the rest of their lives.

No ifs,ans, or buts about it.

 

Then most of us would be pedophiles.

 

Anyone who would harm a child is sick AND evil.

 

That includes our Airforce as well.

 

No shit.