Pedophiles: Sick or Evil?

Yeah...

Shit, half of 'em probably diddlin' with their own kids. Fuckin' hypocrites.

They are the REAL sickos.

http://http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Moral_Values

 

School girl outfits... *weak in the knees*

Yeah, you're right. You could do all the work and I'd still get all the "credit". Ha ha...

 

I heard jail isnt half bad LOL

See, whos the victims?

 

Well, that's why there are FANTASIES.

So, you don't have to go to the human zoo.

 

teens who are really 30 year old FBI agents suck too ,and they're out there.

 

Fuck the FBI! A tool for puritan fascism if it ever existed.

I am so sick of living in the Christian States of Paranoiaca. It won't be too long before people are put on trial for their thoughts. Shit, it's probably happening anyway. But, only to the poor who can't afford a team of Michael Jackson lawyers.

There's not one goddamn thing wrong with appreciating the hotness of a 16 year old girl (for instance). You're not molesting her. And for fuck's sake, she ain't 9! The hypocrisy of Americans is nauseating.

This is the USA for godsake! It's amazing that we can even have a forum where we can debate such issues. Thank goodness for people like Skip and others who fight for freedom of speech.

As a member of the ACLU, I am obviously a free speech radical nut. I believe in speech liberation, sexual liberation, chemical liberation, and liberation from the hypocrisy.

If America had to tell the truth just for one day, the whole nation would fall apart.

 

Ha ha! This thread is now the most popular thread in MENTAL HEALTH FORUM.

Kicking the ass of the sissified "Eating Disorder" thread by a mile.

 

Well, I agree with that. Especially if the two consenting individuals are both aware and have some understanding of exactly what it is they are consenting to.

Fantasies, however, can be played out alone or with someone.

The sad fact is that today someone such as yourself and someone older could not even cyber without the Gestapo shitting their collective paternal pants thinking the older person is a "predator".

That's why even anti-authoritarians like myself are cautious. I don't cyber with anyone because of it unless they admit they are 18 or older. It's ridiculous, I know, but I don't wanna lose everything over a bullshit law against THINKING and TYPING and be presented as a "pedophile" for talking with a 15 year old.

Pedophiles are horny for little kids, not 15/16/17 year olds.

 

I agree. I suppose I am too liberal for the majority. A member of the ACLU and ASFAR. I support Amnesty International, F.A.M.M., and NORML.

So I believe a lot of things are screwed up beyond reason. This is just another one of those examples.

 

The human zoo would suck. Especially for talking to someone like they are older than they are, or when they always talk of things of shady subjects, and the second you play along you get busted. I have scared myself before, and think what a horrible thing it would be for my wonderful life to be ended for something so dumb. I have a wife, and three beautiful children, and would hate to see that ripped away for just talking to someone candidly.

Makes you not want to talk to anyone under 18, its a shame, because everyone under 18 would be cut off from a nice guy who just wants to treat them on the level that they seem.

Sad really, wheres the freedom of speech?

 

no it's not most 17 year-olds are still in high school. Older men can be charming and all of a sudden you have all these promises of freedom and everything you have always wanted and you are too young to realize you are actually being a whore. At 17 I was not even close to reaching sexual maturity and ya knw the guy I lost it o wasn't a perve but I doubt if I met him when I was 18 and in college I would have gone for him. I felt like he honestly just wanted my virginity not sex and he did want to marry me but he wanted to be my first and I think that his main focus was that is wrong.

As to Heron's posts they make no sense and are very off base saying 11 and 12 year olds are ready for sex they are no where near ready for it.

 

I'm sorry lynz...but that is a cop-out. You were an ignorant child at 17, and then MAGICALLY when you became 18 (which happens to be the legal age), you were capable mentally to say "yes" or "no"?

Please.

The laws should not be based on the social conditioning factor that a guy can "charm" a 17 year old. For fuck's sake, if she can't determine what she does with her own body at 17--she should be considered legally retarded. I mean even a 10 year old can "JUST SAY NO".

So, by your philosophy, I am a dangerous person. I married my wife when she was 17. I was 23. We had dated over 18 months prior.

Her mother was 14 when she was married to a 19 year old.

My mother was barely 16 when she was married to an 18 year old.

There have been ZERO divorces in my family and they are all extremely successful marriages.

So, by EXAMPLE, your theory is proven to be nothing more than social conditioning by a paranoid, puritan society which has hypocritcally condemned people to longer childhood through their legislation and not through common sense.

I am sorry, but it is NOT common sense to call CONSENSUAL SEX with a 17 year old "rape". That is a MOCKERY of real rape victims!!!!!!!!! And it makes me angry, because one of my aunts was RAPED (at knifepoint by two men) and it trivializes her pain and anguish.

 

There is no REAL freedom of speech, heron. And yes, that IS sad.

It is really sad when there are people out there that use the lie that they are "protecting the children" in order to promote their own interests and power.

If they were REALLY interested in "saving" the children they wouldn't take kids away from the parents who don't abuse them so quickly and place them in foster care. But, again, BIG BROTHER KNOWS BEST.

In my field, I see it and hear it all. Pot smoking daddies and mommies having their kids swept off to chicken house foster care because their parents puffed on a flower.

WHAT THE FUCK ABOUT THE CHILDREN'S FEELINGS? WHAT ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS??

They don't give a fuck. They treat kids like ignorant pieces of meatloaf. Property to be swapped.

It's a real shame that the world can't accept truth and reality--that we all have to live in our little boxes made out of ticky-tacky and serve King George (The Decider).

America is nation that has always been built on the foundations of self-deception, hypocrisy and BULLSHIT. And if they accepted true FREEDOM for one day the whole hologram would collapse.

 

F.A.M.M. stands for FAMILIES AGAINST MANDATORY MINIMUMS
NORML is the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws
ACLU is the American Civil Liberties Union

These are organizations that I believe in at least 75% of their philosophy.

ASFAR is an interesting organization. I use them merely as a "devil's advocate" vehicle to get people to THINK outside the box.

 

Lynsey, at 17 you were sexually mature, mentally? shit i can vouch for you on that one now, let alone at 17. You got dupped and are bitter, dont blame other 17 year olds for youre own gulible ignorance.

Like libertine said, you dont wake up on your 18th birthday ready for the world.

If i charm a married woman, and promise her freedom from a shitty marriage, and she goes for it, is she not sexually mature?

I was sexually mature at 12, cause i probably spent 3 hours a day beating off to fix the perpetual erection I had. Sounds like i was ready!

 

Well, as far as ASFAR ...

Like I said, I merely like to use them in debates just to stimulate thought.

The ACLU, I support 99%. I am a member. The other organizations are just basically about Human Rights.

Anyway, this thread is getting old and off topic.

It was meant to be merely a debate, but turned into something off-topic.

Anyhow, I agree with most of your ideas, but as I said, it's not likely to change and so, I guess it's better to regard the laws (although I disagree with statutory rape laws, not CM) than to break them and lose everything.

 

lol trust me I did not get dupped. I was with him for 5 years, was engaged and listed as a joint owner on his house at the time...def did not get supped. I just grew out of that relationship and realized he was very immature and that is why he likes younger women.

I am actually in very good control of my sexuality and have never slept with anyone who was not willing to have a serious relationship with me and I do have a very healthy view on sex and a great respect for my body, heart mind and sexuality. Perhaps if everyone had this view there would be no need for the goverment to decide when sex is appropriatte but since you think it's okay for little girls to have sex at 12 there is an obvious need for goverment control and stat rape laws I think that is sick...I was 90 pounds when I was 12 and all of my 'dates' were supervised

 

17 and 23 is fine. I see nothing wrong with that. 6 years difference really does not cause that meany akward moments in a relationship.

 

I still think you are one sided. Granted, most girls under 20 or so bug the shit out of me and would never be attractive to me, but there are some, especially in the Rainbow scene, or just "hippy" in general, that are amazing. Strong of will, confident, happy, and absolutly beautiful, and it are those that are younger than me by 10 or 12 years, yet still on a level for me to love them if i could.

 

so you could romanticly love a 15 year-old? that is sick imo