Pedophiles: Sick or Evil?

Laws are made to protect everyone. Laws are made to make sure you don't kill, assault, steal, kidnap or coerce me to do certain things against my will. However, these laws are basic. Several other laws are made to regulate certain behaviors in order to have a more civilized society: corporate regulations, civil liberties, civil rights, etc.

But, victimless crimes are merely money-making schemes and puritan paranoia at work in America.

In several other cultures (and at one time in America), people were sexually active at younger ages (14/15). It was the norm. It was not sick. It was not a crime.

Now, it is. In 2006, people ACTUALLY think that a 17 year old is uncapable of saying "yes" to an act of sex (not just intercourse, but oral as well). This is all built on the whole paternal/maternal "Everything to SAVE the children" mentality.

Most children at age 7 are not capable of making an informed decision regarding sex. This is obvious. However, by 12, many children are VERY informed about sex and are capable of saying "no" to a variety of things. At 14 or 15, they aren't capable of making such decisions according to the law, but they are capable of being "tried as an adult" if they were to murder someone. So, all of a sudden the "innocent" child is immediately "capable" of adult-think? Ha ha...

When we call a teenager "innocent" that is a misnomer. If a teenager doesn't know what we as adults feel they should not know, we call them "innocent". If a teenager doesn't know what we as adults feel they should know, we call them "ignorant".

Most teenagers regard sexuality as part of life. They don't freak out over a naked person. They are not stupid. They are not ignorant. And they definitely are not INNOCENT.

 

Maybe at one time in America people were active at 14,15 but that doesnt mean it was healthy, it may have been i dont know.

It is true that teenagers are aware of sex and they know alot of what it is about but i think that it is naive to assume that minors can comprehend everything about sex and that is not to call them ignorant.

I wouldn't say that a 17 year old is incapable of saying no but I think it is much more likely for a 17 year old to fold to pressure or to be unaware of what to do, people can become carried away when it comes to sex and a 17 year old is not always capable of knowing how to handle sexual situation with an adult.

I do agree that charging minors as adults is total bullshit and very hypocritcal as you've already pointed out but i'd never model a society on any part of America... unless i was depressed

 

I think the majority of people would fold under pressure. Hell, I'm probably weaker than most 17 year old girls when it comes to sex. I'd fold like a rag under the right conditions and I'm 31.

Prohibition never works. The best thing to do is to only have laws against non-consensual sex or sex with those intellectually incapable of consenting or incapacitated (small children, mentally challenged persons, sloppy drunks, people passed out, etc.)

Statutory rape trivializes REAL rape.

 

When I look at the number of 18-year-olds who are involved with people 17 years old and younger, I have to ask where we draw the line. In many states, such activity is illegal, but people don't usually freak out so much about it. I suspect that people are less inclined to press charges in those cases than when the age difference is greater. Then it becomes a question of where to draw the line.

Beyond a certain point (or is it an uncertain point?), I tend to think of these people as being twisted if not sick. It becomes a question of evil when someone acts on those thoughts because of the effect on a child.

 

I was 23 when I married a 17 year old girl. We now have two children. Own our home. Have a very, liberal marriage. And we are best friends.

I am now 31 and she is now 25.

Her dad was 19 when he married her mom at 14. They had two kids.
My dad was 18 when he married my mom at 16.
My grandfather was 19, my grandmother 14. 7 kids.
My other grandfather was 21, my grandmother 17. 3 kids.

NO DIVORCES.

So, I suppose my whole family are statutory "rapists".

If my family were to be considered "rapists" what does that say for real rape?

Statutory rape trivializes real rape. It makes a mockery out of a serious issue.

 

"bare is best" is one of the voices from other side: The "minor".

It's funny that she understands sexuality better than most law makers.

Sadly, here is someone who has a valuable (and likely the most important) opinion that no one in government will listen to. Out of fear of the dinosaurs with their dinosaur mentality and the general ignorant public.

 

Well said bare.

Lynsey, i wasnt saying go out and fuck 10 year olds because they might have periods. I was indeed giving the biological side, but if nature intends it, who are
we to say its wrong? And why do early pubesants seem like children? We make em that way.

Raise a child sexually prudent and they will think its a dirty no no, and probably get curious around 15 and get pregnant. Raise them with knowledge and liberation, then they make informed and intellegent choices, even at 10. You think a 10 year old who knows his/her body and the what and why is going to get molested? nope, because they know better. Its the sheltered kids that that happens to, because they dont know better, then they never tell, because sex is a dirty no no.

When a child hits puberty, physically the are adults, mentally we stunt them and make them attractive "children". One day 21 year olds will be the new 16 year old, child bearing age will be 40, and eventually everyone will be born with downs syndrome.

Should have listened to nature.

 

Very true, heron.

I am a firm believer that education is the key to everything.

This puritan paranoia has got to go if society is to progress.

 

glad our sex views are better than our religion ones =P

sex brings people together better than religion does anyway lol

btw, my wife things youre hot.

 

Yes, indeed.

Shit, we probably have a hell of a lot in common.

Wow...tell her I think the same of her.

And hell, I like you too.

 

Ok so 17 year olds can comprehend everything about sex but adults cant? Yes you are right alot of Adults have shitty sex lives and dont know much about sex, having said that it reaffirms my position that 17 year old with even less life experiance isnt likely to be aware of all sides of sex.


P.s. I dont have a particular problem with 17 year olds being able to give consent, infact 17 is the age of consent where i live.

 

Well, if I wasn't an "old man", I'd love to experience some things with you.

WOW.

Btw, I agree with your statement.

 

dont blame him on me! hehee, hes too old to be my son hehehe

 

Yes. Now, that is the proper reaction you should have.

I am scum and need counseling for thinking a 17 year old is sexy as hell.

 

I couldnt even get taken advantage of as a teen....and i put it out there too lol.

 

Damn. Now see what you did. Made me look like a REAL perv.

I will be cast out and damned among my peers for my thought-crime.

What do they put in the food nowadays?

 

Gee, thanks.

Seriously though, I think it is ridiculous. Most people look. Most people think it. They just can't say it. And their is a HUGE difference in someone 15 or 16 and some 9 year old kid. How the hell someone could find that attraction is beyond me.

This is the funny part. Most hardliners would have agreed with me that you look very hot (assuming your were 18 or older), but as soon as they found out your true age--this normal reaction would be regarded as "sick" and perverted.

The whole system is faulty. A person is almost regarded as criminal just for their natural thoughts.

LUDICROUS!

 

For years i thought i was a pervert........

then i realized i was just pagan =P

sex is my religion

 

Ha ha...

Well, if thinking that girl was hot makes me a pervert, I have no defense.

And neither do the liars that would have denied it.

 

yup, beating off in the bathroom while their puritan wife chases around their 4 kids, then he lies awake at night asking his "god" for forgiveness.