Pediphilia

Discussion in 'Love and Sex' started by ninja_monkee, Aug 10, 2004.

  1. Sunnie

    Sunnie Jes-Jes

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    I think pedophiles should be castrated.
     
  2. brokenwingz425

    brokenwingz425 Member

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    does within 5 years make me a pedophile?
     
  3. HappyHaHaGirl

    HappyHaHaGirl *HipForums Princess*

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    You're still supporting the people that are exploiting those girls! You're just as guilty as they are, because they're doing it for people like you. Just because you haven't personally done anything with a young girl doesn't mean you're innocent.
     
  4. Kandahar

    Kandahar Banned

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    I'm not "supporting them" in any way. Just because I visit the websites doesn't mean I'm stupid enough to pay money for these pictures when they're easily available for free.

    Anyway, they aren't really being "exploited" on the websites that I routinely visit. They aren't being forced to do things sexually (although obviously that's the reason the websites exist), they're just being photographed.
     
  5. brokenwingz425

    brokenwingz425 Member

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    pedophilia is just a product of modern day society anyway, in many other civilizatioons 14 y/o girls were married off to older men anywhere from 20-50, but IMO, i think you should be within 1/4 of your age
     
  6. meishka

    meishka Grease Munky

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    i think they should keep it in their heads. don't act on those impulses. and any pictures of a minor are wrong, unless between two teen lovers or something along those lines.
     
  7. peacefuljeffrey

    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

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    If the notion of sex with minors is wrong because minors should not be aware of and knowledgeable about sex (I don't know why that is considered a "given," in the first place), then why should there be a difference recognized between a 15-year-old having sex with a 19-year-old, and two 14-year-olds having sex? If it's simply wrong for kids to be interacting sexually, period, then that would mean even if it's with someone their own age. Otherwise, what are we really penalizing when it comes to statutory rape: the age difference? That makes no sense. If age differences are the problem, and not simply that it's minors who are not mature enough to be having sex making the decision to have sex, then we should outlaw 60-year-olds dating 25-year-olds.

    None of this makes sense. And yes, it IS all about some arbitrary definitions our society has set up, because there are plenty of other cultures in which girls marry and have babies at 12, 13, 14 years old.

    Blue skies,
    -Jeffrey
     
  8. thetaintedfae

    thetaintedfae Member

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    True. But were any of these girls actually ready? Sure they had babies at those ages. But is it what they really wanted?

    We could also say that people these ages in our standards do not have the emotional development to understand the situation. But I think it's mainly based on choice. I have no problem with seeing older women with younger men or vice versa. But you do get a point across. Other cultures do seem to be open to this. But I guess it depends on a group of people moral standard? You wrote that well. :)
     
  9. Kandahar

    Kandahar Banned

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    A quick look at your other posts shows that 14-year-olds such as yourself are WELL aware of what sex is and what you are doing. So don't pretend that a girl who is a year or two younger than you doesn't know what she's doing. It isn't rape if it's consensual unless it's a child, which I would define as younger than 11 or 12.
     
  10. velvet

    velvet Banned

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    Thanks for being so honest.

    Pictures of kids in their underwear seem harmless.. but those pictures are mostly the result of sexually abuse. Just think of it.. who else would post pictures of kids on those kind of websites for older men to see?

    I'm not judging your feeling.. maybe pedophilia is something like homophilia.. but the big difference is that homosexuals are dealing with adults, who can decide for themselves if they want their pictures on the internet or not. A kid doesn't have that rationality yet. If you have that kind of feelings for children, than it must be hard for you, knowing that you can never really express them toward someone you like (being a young kid). However, if you really love them, you should want what's best for them.. and that's not sex or sensual involvement with an adult.

    Often pedophiles have been victim to abuse in some kind of way themself (emotionally, physically or sexually). They never really trusted adults and prefer the company of young children (usually the age that they had when they had negative experiences with adults.. it's like their sexual/emotional development stopped at that point). Did something like that maybe happen to you as well? When did you notice your attraction to kids.. what is it exactly that you find attractive in them.. and do you have no feelings for people your own age whatsoever?

    Let's keep in mind that most pedophiles really do love kids and struggle with this feeling everyday. However, acting on it has such an impact on the kids, that we should try to help pedophiles deal with their feelings an other way. Kids can be very sexually outgoing in their innocense but that's not a reason for an adult to get sexually involved with them, even though to some it may very well be tempting for some people.

    Even though it may seem sick to a lot of people to have feelings for such young kids.. just try to imagine what it would be like if you really liked/loved/were attracted to someone and you could never be with them without fearing prosecution or even harming your loved one. Feelings are just there.. and they have to be dealt with in an understanding and loving way.. imho.

    (I study pedagogy and taboo's and ethical problems have always been of great interest of me. I don't agree on people acting on their pedosexual feelings, but I'm understanding of people having feelings that are different from 'normal people'. I'm not a pedophile myself.)
     
  11. stuntdragon1

    stuntdragon1 Member

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    Thanks for everyone's support. Its irritating waiting to see if they will charge me for whatever I wrote in that journal. My lawyer told me to stop keeping journals. HAHA! I guess I will. He also said I won't be charged unless they contact the girl. So far everything is ok, but its so cloudy. I could be in jail tomorrow, or never. Who knows.
     
  12. Nisha

    Nisha Forlorn.

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    yes, in india i have heard of girls today and seen when i went there, with my own eyes, girls and their husbands that were 15+ of age difference and others that are 15 and getting married off to 30-40 year olds. some of them have already even had other wives and such. in africa as well, and im pretty sure that there are other countries too.

    in the ancient greek culture, girls as young as i or younger used to be married off to 25-35 year olds, after the men would have served their military service to their country.

    this wholr pediphilia thing has probably (and this is just what -I- think) jsut been a very recent product, (maximum 2oo years old), and as our world goes through evolution and such, more beliefs will develop, but also more people will either be more lax or they will have strong thoughts about it.

    i don't think its wrong, (my bf and i are seperated through the age of 18, if you understand what i mean) and well.. i love him. but if it is forced, than i think severe consequences should be put into action for the violater. that is one thing that has certainly changed in this time, because in the olden days, when a female of my age or around was raped then no actions would be put forth.

    in the dictionairy it says,

    Main Entry: pe·do·phil·ia [​IMG]
    Pronunciation: "pE-d&-'fi-lE-&
    Function: noun
    Etymology: New Latin
    : sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object

    i also think that you can have a platonic relationship between a "minor" and an adult (off pedofile terms), that is to say, a relationship in which there is no phisycal contact or sexual desire, either because of surpression or sumblimation. i had to practice that with my bf for a wihle...

    and i dont think he was a pedofile at all.

    as long as its ok with the persons, then love can't put them apart.... neither should authority.

    this is exclusively my opinion and mine alone.
     
  13. velvet

    velvet Banned

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    My 'problem' with pedophiles is.. let's just say a 30 y/o guy would be able to get involved with a 10 y/o girl. Will he still love her when she grows older.. when she's 20, 30, 40 yeras? Probably not.. because then she'll be a woman and not a kid anymore..


    So then I wonder.. is it really 'love' or is it just sexual lust.. directed towards children? That degrades them to the level of an object.. because it has nothing to do with the person, just with the age.

    What are your thoughts on this?
     
  14. xthevalkyriex

    xthevalkyriex Member

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    Women are like fine wine...we get better with age ;)
     
  15. unoriginal screen na

    unoriginal screen na Member

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    i've looked at those pictures too but that's coz i'm a kid aswell so it's not bad.
    i don't really see anything wrong with it. adults have taught us kids to want to be adults so badly, i know two girls who have been "victims" of pedophilia but they're blind to it, they love the old guys who give them attention, it makes them feel like adults.

    *kisses*

    Drew
     
  16. DarkLunacy

    DarkLunacy Senior Member

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    Yeah but if that corks been popped, you guys can get bitter
     
  17. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    You don't even know how much I empathise with you stuntdragon. A few months ago I was seeing this 16 year old for a few weeks and things were going ok 'til her mom found us fooling around in her house. She called me a pedophile and screamed 'how dare you do that with my 14 year old daughter in my house'... She threatened to call the cops, and I was thinking about running away to mexico for a while. I talked to her a few days later and she told me, that yes she was 14. I guess is shoulda carded her or something, but she looked 16 (which is legal here). Anyway nothing really happened but it did scare the shit outta me and it probably shoulda taught me a lesson, but all I got outta it was don't trust how old a girl says she is. Good luck man.
     
  18. Hopper

    Hopper Guest

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    I agree with your assesment...but I believe you missed the main point.

    A 10 year old is a child. Children are not adults. They are not in a position to make decisions for themselves in these types of adult matters.

    In a game of minds, a 10 year old child has no chance against a grown adult. The grown adult will be able to manipulate the child to no end.

    I don't pretend to understand the mind of a pedophile.....it is beyond my comprehension to understand why someone would want to sexually molest a child....but....I'm willing to bet it has a lot to do with power. I'm willing to bet that pedophile's are attracted to the power that they can wield over the child.

    Power and Greed are two of the most powerful forces that drive the human condition.
     
  19. velvet

    velvet Banned

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    In one of my previous post I talk about the mental age aspect.. I agree with you. But.. (there's always a but..).. you talk about 'molest' and 'power'.. I agree with that to a certain point. Children can be very sexually outgoing, to the point where you as an adult have to say that they should tone down their behaviour a little (like a 3 y/o girl I used to babysit, who discovered boobs and kept wanting to touch mine). Not all sexual encounters between adults and children that are sexual have to be forced.. even though they are always morally wrong (because the kid can't make a rational desicion).

    I know a guy who's molested (in this case clearly against his will) by his stepdad.. he talked about it once and there was such a painfull vibe coming from him.. it broke my heart. Some adults can do horrible stuff.. *shiver*
     
  20. unoriginal screen na

    unoriginal screen na Member

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    you don;t think it's got anything to do with cuteness?
     

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