pcp?

Discussion in 'Other Drugs' started by MasterAdam, Feb 19, 2006.

  1. seancourt

    seancourt Free Your Mind

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    That pretty much describes it, ive done it before and really isn't worth it at all, and it isn't embalming fluid for fucks sake, i hate when people say that.
     
  2. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    a) pcp = phenyl-cyclohexyl-piperidine (trade name Sernylan); a potent sigma-opioid agonist

    b) it is not embalmin fluid (formalin, 36% formaldehyde in methanol sol'n); formalin deactivates proteins

    c) it's not numb dumb and crazy; ignorant people who misunderstand these substances are.

    I've had my bouts with it, even ODed on some (that probably had traces of PCC, a toxic byproduct), but dropped it relatively unscathed. It was among my favorite substances, along with psychedelics (psychs show you the light, dissociatives show you the void). PCP doesn't make you crazy (provided you don't abuse it for prolonged periods of time), it doesn't make you cut your neighbor's throat out, it won't make you invincible, and it's certainly not the worst drug out there. PCP CAN be neuroprotective and prevent brain damage resulting from stroke, if administered after a stroke (it blocks the excitotoxic effects of glutamate/NMDA).

    btw.. I had an MRI scan for a study I took part in, no holes :p
    (Olney Lesions are still just theory)
     
  3. Peter Popper

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    pcp will make you feel "altered" for a long time, but not in the sense that other drugs make you feel "altered". thats the only way i can describe it. left me feeling angry as hell at nothing some folllowing days (punching walls). though, it is alot of fun.
     
  4. polymer

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    that's the effect of the sigma-opioid affinity, something other drugs don't touch, and a poorly understood area of the brain.

    people react differently to pcp intoxication; I used to just lie down (like I did with Ketamine) and listen to some heady music. I found chilling in the void to be quite blissful
     
  5. seancourt

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    It isn't huh? when i smoked it that pretty much sums up the whole experience.
     
  6. moka9x9

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    LSA = 400% less potent than LSD

    800 seeds = 1 good blotter

    LSD is in mcg's not mg's like LSA.
     
  7. polymer

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    did ya have fits of rage, and rip out somebody's heart too?

    I guess it affects people differently (go figure); I actually felt more retarded on ecstacy.

    personally, I preferred cyclohexamine dissociatives over amphetamines such as ecstacy, but, to each his/her own
     
  8. seancourt

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    I didn't rip peoples hearts out, but i for sure felt a shitload more hostile than i normally do. Yea it does affect people differently, but the drug is known to make people act extremely violent, so thats why i say it's numb, dumb and crazy
     
  9. seancourt

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    If you felt "retarded" from extasy i doubt u had good extasy or even extasy at all...and how would you describe this feeling of retardation?
     
  10. RELAYER

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    I never felt hostile when I smoked it. Just like I was floating around and felt really confused, and I remember I didnt care if I got caught acting stupid by my parents, this was when I was 16 and I tried it the first time. My one friend though started acting like he was a dog and barked at my cousins mom and shit, then we thought he was dead because he banged his head really hard and passed out.
     
  11. polymer

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    why do you think people who roll are called "etards"??

    I had mollies, and they were definitely mdma. that cracked out feeling is unmistakable.
     
  12. polymer

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    that's the kind of bullshit media puts into the already ignorant public mind.

    when my friends and I smoked it, we went into a calm daze. I've never seen anyone act violent on pcp.
     
  13. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Exactly.
     
  14. seancourt

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    Then i guess your just an etard buddy, i never felt retarded or cracked out while rolling.
     
  15. seancourt

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    So im lying as to how i felt? alright man watever im not arguing.
     
  16. RELAYER

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    I dont think your lying, it's just that the violent shit is what is always said about this drug, and I've only seen this occur in peole who were already agressive people, nothing extreme just stupid shit like punching and making fun of people.
     
  17. seancourt

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    yea, i know what your saying dude, it just seems like this guy is trying to tell me how i felt after smoking it, yea it doesn't make most people go crazy and hurt people, but there have for sure been people who went fucking apeshit from this drug, it isn't the safest of substances and can be unpredictable.
     
  18. polymer

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    i didn't imply that you were lying, it's just a common misconception/exaggeration that PCP makes everyone violent.
    just like not everyone freaks out on acid .

    but some people have a hard time dealing with mind/body dissociation, and react to it over-defensively, i realize that
     
  19. polymer

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    exactly.

    it strips the ego from the mind too, but in a different way than psychedelics; the fear of death is more pronounced.

    ketamine is similar, but more gentle; I once tried to breakdance on K, but to no avail lol
     
  20. seancourt

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    i wanna try K
     
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