Paying for sex

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  1. TylerDurden2019

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    Aside from the risk of arrest or disease what are your thoughts. Do you see anything wrong with it? Ever done it?
     
  2. bigredinmass

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    I see nothing wrong with it as long as it's an exchange of money for sex by consenting adults. But never have paid yet
     
  3. Friendly10

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    If they want to make money having sex more power to them.
    I've never went looking an paid for it. I did have a female friend that needed some money for bills
    An she ask me could she borrow some money. I knew she couldn't pay me back so I made her a deal
    She gives hand jobs for payment. She was all for it.
     
  4. Barry Mandelay

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    Paying for sex has many advantages for both the client and provider. There are con's with sex work but the pros outweigh them. There's also a lot of misinformation passed along that is stirred up by the media and government. The odds of getting a STD from a person that is not a sex worker, I repeat not a sex worker, is higher than one who is. Statistics from the CDC show you are more likely to be infected as a teenager from your girl or boy friend than from a sex worker. Most people infected by an STD are under the age of 25 due to the lack of experience in the ways of the world and unprotected sexual relations. Sex workers are more cautious about getting an STD because it affects their livelihood. Sex work is a highly lucrative proposition with many escorts and prostitutes having a six figure income yearly.

    The con is, as the OP mentioned, law enforcement and the misconceptions on the level of human trafficking and forced sex labor. The uproar in the media and our government is based on these misconceptions. The trouble is there is no data to back up these claims. This has been proven by The Washington Post with their fact checking. Take the Robert Kraft Florida massage parlor case for example. Did he pay for sex? It's possible but can't be proved. Plus even though the illegal observations of LE were made no trafficking was found in that or any other parlor. But the position that a candidate will take is a "fight to the death" against human trafficking which garners votes from a mislead public. It's an honorable thing to do. But there is no data that suggests there is rabid trafficking going on.

    My position on the legality of pay for sex is that if I desire to have sex with a woman and she requires a fee the transaction is between the two of us as consenting adults. It is nobody else's business. By paying for sex (we all do one way or another) you get what you want, when you want, and how you want. In the end you walk away, satisfied, without any emotional issues. A sex worker does not care about you before or after the encounter. There is no emotional baggage to deal with by hiring a sex worker versus a date. In the long run it is cheaper to compensate a provider for her time and effort than go through to motions of getting it for “free”. No matter how you get sex it is not free. Never has been. Never will be. So, negotiate for sexual favors, receive them, and have no issues after. Along with that the risk of being involved in a law enforcement situation is very low. The chance of being cited for a traffic violation is much higher.
     
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  5. Just for fun

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    I've paid hookers severa; times. It should be legal everywhere
     
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  6. srgreene

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    A problem is that it often is not consensual, or at least there is an element of coercion. Pimps can be pretty nasty, controlling people. And a lot of young women- I'm sure the same is true of rent boys- are in vulnerable positions and are exploited by unscrupulous men. I do have some experience in this area, and prostitution is not always a victimless crime, by any means. Just for example, back in the day, geisha girls of Japan were respected and were often accomplished women. But there was a vast pool of women under them who were treated much less favorably.
     
  7. NakedGator

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    Absolutely do not see anything wrong with it. I think prostitution should be legal.
     
  8. Barry Mandelay

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    Your statement that it is "often not consensual" is not correct. I agree one may be coerced or intimidated by another, as in a pimp, to "sell" themselves but the provider always consents to having sex with the client. A quote from the advocacy group Decriminalize Sex Work (DSW) says "The vast majority of paid sexual activities involve consenting adults."

    These women get themselves into their predicament where they are exploited. You may have done so yourself. Would not legalization assist these women who have made a bad choice? Another quote from DSW on this subject says "Removing these adults from the criminal system will free up law enforcement to focus on the minority of sex crimes that involve minors, force, and fraud, which includes human trafficking." Note they say the "minority of sex crimes" which I interpret that there are not "a lot of young women" forced into sex work.

    I don't see your point in this statement. Some people believe that geisha girls are prostitutes which is false. Yes, during the Allied occupation of Japan after WWII, local women called themselves "Geisha girls" and worked as prostitutes.They did so freely as prostitution was legal in Japan at the time. These women imitated the look of a geisha but were certainly not a geisha nor were they maiko who were the underlings of the geisha. Maiko, like geisha, did not perform sexual acts for money.

    I apologize if I am offending you in any way. I just feel you have presented some misinformation with quoting my post.
     
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  9. srgreene

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    Barry, if you are being threatened, bullied, or strung out on drugs, as many American prostitutes are. I wold not call it consensual. To focus solely on the the transaction between the prostitute and the john is completely deceptive.

    As for geisha, my understanding is sex was a major component of it back in the day. No, it wasn't "wham bam here's your money"- it was much more artfully handled.

    No, I am not offended, but thank you for your concern.
     
  10. Z-Man1983

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    This was always a curiousity of mine. Like I feel everyone has a price literally. One minute everything is going great then your life tanks the next and you become desperate. Then someone shows up with an indecent proposal. Everything is on the line. Say no and your homeless & so on. So what do you do? Do you hold on to your morals? Or do you agree?
     
  11. kinkydoyouloveme

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    I think prostitution is just a job when its not being done through exploitation. In canada now it is legal, so theres proper websites, you get to know about the person and their background. In this context, its just another service industry. Now if youre picking up hookers off the streets thats a different story...
     
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  12. Barry Mandelay

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    Geisha before WWII and the American occupation was a elitist Japanese culture that was solely for companionship and sex with a geisha did not happen. These women were held in high esteem in the Japanese culture. They were not prostitutes in any form or fashion.

    Other forms of prostitution in the United states occur where there is no coercion from a pimp. Masseuses, strippers, escorts, all provide sexual services, which is considered prostitution, that are done by choice and not because they have to. These women and men are not threatened, bullied, or strung out on drugs plus they are not involved in the human trafficking myth.
     
  13. Irminsul

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    Wife paid for a FFF escort for my birthday on Friday, 90mins with an escort/amateur porn girl. Fantastic experience, just like what you see in a movie. She even let us take a few photos and took some photos for us but just for private use so don't bother asking haha. This was actually the 2nd time I'd seen her but didn't know about the porn until more recently.

    Although we've had lesbian 3soms and even moresoms during our life together, none of them were like this, it was unreal. It was cute too because the first time was just me so she was really happy to meet my wife and they got into it straight away so it just went so well.

    I been saying that for a long time though, if you want to have or experience a 3som, don't look past an escort. It'll cost you, but it's so much better than an awkward stranger or friend, they're assertive and you'll get exactly what you want out of it. :)
     
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    might as well do it with a robot . they are just waiting for you to be done . the sooner the better. not appealing .
     
  15. Barry Mandelay

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    It isn't that way with a good reputable escort or prostitute. You have to pay more to get a nice experience. But the added cost is well worth it. If you go cheap you'll get poor service as with any business transaction.
     
  16. joesantafe

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    fake passion . no thanks
     
  17. Barry Mandelay

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    Do you ask when meeting someone "How are you?" = Fake Passion
    Do you tell your partner when asked how they look? "Why yes you look great!" = Fake Passion
    Do you get caught up in a movie scene? = Fake Passion
    Did you buy the product based on all the great advantages of it? "this new car is a great investment!" = Fake Passion

    I could go on and on but you get my point. Our world is full of fake passion. Why wouldn't it be that way with sex as well?
     
  18. srgreene

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    Barry, I agree with you on this. An escort can be a companion for more than just sex.

    As for our geisha disagreement, this site says there is a bit of both ways in the geisha tradition, but for the most part you are correct:

    Are geisha prostitutes? Geisha history and the prostitution myth
     
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    I have paid for it several times. There were some Asian massage parlors around here 10 years ago or so. They've all been shut down now. There was one in particular that I really liked and they had some really hot girls.
     
  20. Just for fun

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    I had an Asian fuck friend and she was the best human being because after we were done she would take a warm wet cloth and wash my junk before we went to sleep then in the morning she would serve me breakfast in bed. She never thought of herself first. She was a cocktail waitress who served drinks and said, "if you don't get lucky tonight you will come home with me." nice lady.

    And yes I have paid for sex but it was for fun and the experience. I truly got plenty pussy free in those days.
     
  21. DcWashington

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    I don't see any issue with it. It should be legal. What someone does with their body is their business. Besides, if we were to put some controls in place, it would help reduce human trafficking; bring in extra taxes; be safer; take it away from streets and into controlled environments. Plus, everyone should be able to get off from time to time.
     

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